Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[BobHawk]

Losing Kosi and missing out on McKay as a free hit in the space of 24 hours isn't a good thing. Silly comments suggesting it's 'good news'.

It means we either need to convince another unknown player request a trade to us, costing us draft capital. Or we need to take a punt on a VFL standard player.
Alternatively, we do nothing and risk stagnating.

At least we're having a crack. But so far I'd say we 1 win (missing Esava) and 2 losses (Kosi and McKay) this off-season.

Took us 4 years to get Lake when we were the best team in the AFL. And in the end Lake was gifted to us. We'll get there. McKay would have helped but it is far from a disaster given where we are. At least we won't be playing finals and witnessing players like Gibson and Schoenmakers consistently watching the ball flying over their heads for goals as we did then.

 

[westhawk]

Chol is next on our hit n miss list

Spot on, all we are used for, is for managers to boost the asking price for a player who has no intention on playing for us.

 

[Flukey!]

Losing Kosi and missing out on McKay as a free hit in the space of 24 hours isn't a good thing. Silly comments suggesting it's 'good news'.

It means we either need to convince another unknown player request a trade to us, costing us draft capital. Or we need to take a punt on a VFL standard player.
Alternatively, we do nothing and risk stagnating.

At least we're having a crack. But so far I'd say we 1 win (missing Esava) and 2 losses (Kosi and McKay) this off-season.

We are also getting two first-rounders guaranteed this year.
More high-talent youth to add to what we have already.

We are in a good place to keep building and improving. We just might need to develop anther key back or trade for one.

 

[Holy Rioli]

If he didn't want to win finals, why didn't he just stay at north?

He might like to actually play in a final you know?

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

If you are reading this post and are 195cm+ please send an email to the Hawthorn FC to express interest in playing in a key position post from 2024 and beyond.

No previous football experience required.

Salary 900k per annum for 8 years.

 

[grumbleguts]

He might like to actually play in a final you know?

Yeah, but what's the point if he knows he'll lose.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Losing Kosi and missing out on McKay as a free hit in the space of 24 hours isn't a good thing. Silly comments suggesting it's 'good news'.

It means we either need to convince another unknown player request a trade to us, costing us draft capital. Or we need to take a punt on a VFL standard player.
Alternatively, we do nothing and risk stagnating.

At least we're having a crack. But so far I'd say we 1 win (missing Esava) and 2 losses (Kosi and McKay) this off-season.

Hey, we might be picking at the pointy end of the draft again!

Could nearly be time for a cap in hand moment at the AFL! Get a priority pick

 

[bindas12]

What a waste of time and emotional energy. Not a big fan of MM and now teaming up with a 2nd year coach probably means we will keep falling short vs pitches made by more seasoned campaigners for a while. Atleast we will have an early first round pick next year again the way things are going.

 

[killerspud]

Losing Kosi and missing out on McKay as a free hit in the space of 24 hours isn't a good thing. Silly comments suggesting it's 'good news'.

It means we either need to convince another unknown player request a trade to us, costing us draft capital. Or we need to take a punt on a VFL standard player.
Alternatively, we do nothing and risk stagnating.

At least we're having a crack. But so far I'd say we 1 win (missing Esava) and 2 losses (Kosi and McKay) this off-season.

I'd say we are three wins - those names aren't getting us a flag. NEXT

 

[Chubbs25]

James Barlase from crows.
21 year old key back
192cm 100kgs
Could be him and blanck long term

 

[Billyc]

We can’t pretend the club has not swung and missed at multiple targets in recent times.

Whether we agreed with each of those targets is another matter. The club has had some goals and not achieved them in the player movement market, which is disappointing for those at the helm and somewhat concerning in their ability to execute their plans

McKay would have filled a needed team spot and come as free agent. But what we were offering him was absolutely ridiculous and smacked a bit of desperation. That is Essendon’s risk now

 

[Simon Crawshay]

Don't discount the unrest it can cause to a playing group when you bring in an average footballer like McKay on ludicrous money like the Don's are going to do.

And don't tell me that the players are professional enough to get over that aspect, they are as human as the rest of us when it comes to $$$$

You need to save that kind of big money deal for the actual guns of the comp. Not an average to slightly above average full back with wonky knees.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

So we now turn our attention to 2024 and the A Grader who will then be out of contract right?
Ben King?

I'll save you the drama - we won't be getting Ben King.

 

[hardway]

A club that is garbage and lacks any resemblance of a KPB choose not to offer a contract. That speaks volumes to me.

 

[badgrill]

do we have an "IT'S NOT A ****ING RACE!!" sign?

 

[killerspud]

What a waste of time and emotional energy. Not a big fan of MM and now teaming up with a 2nd year coach probably means we will keep falling short vs pitches made by more seasoned campaigners for a while. Atleast we will have an early first round pick next year again the way things are going.

if you are losing emotional energy over trade week it's time to look at your life choices. Go out and meet people, get a girlfrien

 

[JaegarTime]

Never wanted him anyway

 

[Ned Ryerson]

do we have an "IT'S NOT A ******* RACE!!" sign?

Nah we just use eldorado

 

[Since 2001]

Big loss for the club but i think good win for the fans

 

[lyger]

So were the two offers essentially comparable in terms of financials and McKay chose Essendon over Hawks as a club? Or Essendons offer in the end was significantly better?

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

if you are losing emotional energy over trade week it's time to look at your life choices. Go out and meet people, get a girlfrien

Why do you think i'm here?

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

So were the two offers essentially comparable in terms of financials and McKay chose Essendon over Hawks as a club? Or Essendons offer in the end was significantly better?

I'd say financials, old coach and probably proximity to "home". Probably lives Northern, so going to the HANGAR was probably better than Dingley.

Who knows. I like a short commute.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Took us 4 years to get Lake when we were the best team in the AFL. And in the end Lake was gifted to us. We'll get there. McKay would have helped but it is far from a disaster given where we are. At least we won't be playing finals and witnessing players like Gibson and Schoenmakers consistently watching the ball flying over their heads for goals as we did then.

McKay can stick after all his fluffing around! Never want him near the club.

 

[LunchboxLegend]

Waverley Park. Executions.

 

[grumbleguts]

So were the two offers essentially comparable in terms of financials and McKay chose Essendon over Hawks as a club? Or Essendons offer in the end was significantly better?

Or there is a third option, MacKay has the IQ of a cheese cake and genuinely doesn't know what country India is in.