Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[wahawk]

Correct me if I'm wrong but is Bailey Smith out of contract next year? Why would we be in such a hurry to pick him up this year when we can use pick 4 and get him next year?

If he wants to come to HFC , you take him while you can

 

[Blahsta]

Correct me if I'm wrong but is Bailey Smith out of contract next year? Why would we be in such a hurry to pick him up this year when we can use pick 4 and get him next year?

I guess anything can happen in 12 months. Danniher wanted to go to the swans and then went to the lions 12 months later. Same with Dunkley and the bombers but ended up at the lions 12 months later.

 

[QuietB]

Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

is not even the 7th best player in his draft. What makes anyone think he is worth that or better now?

 

[Rowie6]

Can always trade into the future next year

Will be heaps easier as well to trade/buy picks

Not sure how it is ever easy to get back into the top end of the draft?


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[VandoHawk]

St. Kilda are getting Pick 21 for Gresham.
If Koschitzke or Brocky were free agents we'd be getting the world instead of scraps.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Not sure how it is ever easy to get back into the top end of the draft?


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If we are shit again, we can trade our f1 again

Because everyone will think we will be shit again

 

[Rowie6]

Let's just wait until baismith says " make me a hawk"! Then it's on for young and old.

I think most people on here want Bailey The Butchers love child!


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[Braidz]

St. Kilda are getting Pick 21 for Gresham.
If Koschitzke or Brocky were free agents we'd be getting the world instead of scraps.

I highly doubt we would, Gresham is a better player than both. Even though I don’t rate him that highly.

 

[Back Pocket Rocket]

Im praying we don’t trade our future first because not a lot would have to go wrong injury wise and general luck wise for us to finish bottom 1 or 2 worst case scenario. Not that we’re that bad but the teams that finished above us all could improve and north and west coast can’t possibly be as bad.

This X a billion

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

St. Kilda are getting Pick 21 for Gresham.
If Koschitzke or Brocky were free agents we'd be getting the world instead of scraps.

We'd be getting 4ths

 

[bindas12]

it it true that McCabe hasn't nominated us yet ?

 

[Hodgey 15]

Correct me if I'm wrong but is Bailey Smith out of contract next year? Why would we be in such a hurry to pick him up this year when we can use pick 4 and get him next year?

And don't forget Bevo's job is on the line and if they flick Bevo next season and they bring in a new coach it may be enough for Smith to stay at Dogs.

 

[wahawk]

I think most people on here want Bailey The Butchers love child!


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FFS dude.
Give it a rest

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

it it true that McCabe hasn't nominated us yet ?

It’s a formality.

 

[wahawk]

West Coast’s second round pick which started at Pick 19 is now 29.

They have every right to be filthy.

Hopefully the new regime do a full review of the FA, FS, NGA system

I know ‘new regime’ isn’t accurate as they are just mates of the last regime

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Now that Gresham has made it to the bombers, I feel the bombers will release Massimo without too much fuss!

Could break open the trades as well with Freo, Saints, eagles and Hawks.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

 

[Hawks2011]

West Coast’s second round pick which started at Pick 19 is now 29.

They have every right to be filthy.

Makes us look like genius's trading away our second round pick this year for Weddle in the draft last year.

 

[VandoHawk]

Future Fourth swaps should get that done. Brisbane get (marginally) more points for Ashcroft next year and we maintain flexibility with future trading.

 

[MrPremiership]

West Coast’s second round pick which started at Pick 19 is now 29.

They have every right to be filthy.

So, with academy and father sons coming on draft night, the first round could get to 31 or 32

Given they're only expecting 50 or so draft selections on the night, more than half of those selected will be first rounders!!

Incredible

System is broken

 

[Billyc]

Future Fourth swaps should get that done. Brisbane get (marginally) more points for Ashcroft next year and we maintain flexibility with future trading.

Yep, we have been giving senior players away for free for years. Nothing more than a late 2024 pick swap

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

Hopefully the new regime do a full review of the FA, FS, NGA system

I know ‘new regime’ isn’t accurate as they are just mates of the last regime

I bet they leave the bloody academies alone though.



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[Billyc]

So, with academy and father sons coming on draft night, the first round could get to 31 or 32

Given they're only expecting 50 or so draft selections on the night, more than half of those selected will be first rounders!!

Incredible

System is broken

Yes, it is a disgrace. On the plus side, our Weddle trade looks even better with each BS compensation pick or North gift

 

[CrimminsSquad]

Best case scenario in that situation is that WB would take him at 4 (matching the bid with pick 5) leaving us in exactly the same position we would have been in with no significant flow on impact for any other draft picks. What a stupid idea

I think most people on here want Bailey The Butchers love child!


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When you look at a player you are looking at how many of the boxes they tick:
1. Running capacity speed and distance
2. Disposal - how often do they get it and how well do they use it Hand and Foot
3. Marking
4 Game Awareness
5. Character

I would have no hesitation in saying 4 of the 5 main categories he is elite in, and been lucky enough to meet and spend a little time with his character is off the charts. HIs disposal by hand is very good and whilst kicking is not always great that is influenced by where he gets it, in and close throw it on the boot, I would still say disposal as a whole is good to very good with only a ? on his kicking.

To be an AFL footballer you need to be elite in two of these categories and then as you add categories you become more and more desirable. To have 4 elite categories is somebody I would recruit everyday of the week especially when he is 22/23, that is a ten year player.

So perhaps time to focus on what he does do not what he doesn't do well.

 

[theiaofseed]

West Coast’s second round pick which started at Pick 19 is now 29.

They have every right to be filthy.

You sure?