List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part I

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Bevoman said:
If you want something good you need to give up something good.
Miles Bergman is a Sandy boy who is flying at Port.
Out of contarct at year end, would Marshall or SA Wanageneem-Milera be a far trade.
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Port don't even have a first rounder to throw in to try to even that up
 
Yawkey way said:
How long have we needed high end quality mids. Here’s food for thought, I’ve always been against paying overs for established players and hitting the draft. Until recently that hasn‘t worked that well, would we have been better of to have paid the two firsts price and got a gun mid.

Should our real target at the GC be Anderson ?.
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Anderson is elite nearly already. Doubt we get him out but we can dream. Parish should be a focus and Deven Robertson, Sam Flanders types who are behind others. GWS should be picked at and anyone that looks like they are rebuilding.

I think we just need elite talent, doesn't have to be midfielders. Just try to dislodge some more high end players and draft at the same time.
 
sammm said:
Isn't this his third and final year of his contract? If so, wonder if he will get another one.
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I doubt he stays. He's behind heaps there. They don't need mids. Cerra, Hewwett, Kennedy all have spots in that side and also and Cripps are already holding 2 spots out.

If you could get him for FA he'd be worth a sniff around. I thought O'Brien stepped up last year too. I reckon they both look like they'd come nearly free. Keeping some outside running depth would be handy if we are really in line for finals in the next few years.
 

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bird_man said:
How many premiership sides have had a genuinely elite ruck over the last 10 years?

Plenty of worse rucks have won flags than him in that time. We have an average midfield and have for some time.
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All you need to know right here.

Imagine Marshall in Geelong colours he would be AA! We need to fix the one paced midfield before anything else. Seb needs to be 6th in line to play
 
Winmar2Lockett said:
You simply do not trade out heart & soul players like Membrey & Marshall.
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True, in the old world they would have both been untouchable to other clubs. The new world however is ruthless and cut throat. The trade wars have begun, and one of them could easily be used as a sacrifice and or bait.
 
tomjoad said:
Same as whatever we got for Bruce. Membrey is a better player, but I reckon it would be around the same mark.
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I think we got dome on that deal and you'd hope that he'd get us more than Bruce did. Perhaps a pick between 20 to 30. He's a reliable 40+ goal physically resilient player. We'd be stupid to move him on if we got less than a high pick. We need him firing not sacking him.

You rarely get better by losing your better players. Even a pick just gives you a ticket in a lottery that might help in a few years if you're lucky.
 
OOC end of this year (a couple are incorrect)


1. Nicholas Coffield - Link
3. Zak Jones - Link
4. Jade Gresham (RFA) - Link
6. Sebastian Ross (UFA) - Link
11. Hunter Clark - Link
13. Ryan Byrnes - Link
14. Liam Stocker - Link
21. Zaine Cordy - Link
22. Jack Higgins - Link
23. Jack Bytel - Link
27. Oscar Adams - Link
29. Jimmy Webster (UFA) - Link
32. Mason Wood (CAT A) - Link
34. Tom Highmore - Link
36. Daniel McKenzie (RFA) - Link
37. Leo Connolly - Link
38. Tom Campbell - Link
41. Angus McLennan (CAT B) - Link
45. Jack Peris (CAT B) - Link
47. Anthony Caminiti (CAT A) - Link



Think we will see a decent cleanout end of year. We typically cycle through 10 players per season but can see us getting around a dozen or more this year.
 

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Having deleted the incorrect ones and the ones that will definitely stay:

1. Nicholas Coffield -
3. Zak Jones -
4. Jade Gresham (RFA) -
6. Sebastian Ross (UFA) -
11. Hunter Clark -
13. Ryan Byrnes -
23. Jack Bytel -
27. Oscar Adams -
29. Jimmy Webster (UFA)
34. Tom Highmore -
36. Daniel McKenzie (RFA) -
37. Leo Connolly -
38. Tom Campbell -
41. Angus McLennan (CAT B) -
45. Jack Peris (CAT B) -

It's worth remembering that you also need to replace those lost. We have 3 draft picks ATM.
 
I’m all in for the draft and maybe some future second round smokies, like how Steele came to us.

But…. I was thinking if we threw the cards in the air and rebuilt the midfield, is there a premiership midfield there??

Is Marshal Steele Owans and Sincs good enough?? (With support from others obviously)
 
WhiskySaint said:
I’m all in for the draft and maybe some future second round smokies, like how Steele came to us.

But…. I was thinking if we threw the cards in the air and rebuilt the midfield, is there a premiership midfield there??

Is Marshal Steele Owans and Sincs good enough?? (With support from others obviously)
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You really only need one absolute star quality mid and a second that is around Steele or Crouch level and some depth support and rotations. If Clark, Windhager, Phillipou, Owens, Hotton or even Sinclair could become a gun mid we are right. Perhaps if Coffield ever makes it back we could try him on ball.

I would chase some depth and maybe a bargain priced player who is behind others with development left like how we got Steele.
 
ScrappyDo said:
Having deleted the incorrect ones and the ones that will definitely stay:

1. Nicholas Coffield -
3. Zak Jones -
4. Jade Gresham (RFA) -
6. Sebastian Ross (UFA) -
11. Hunter Clark -
13. Ryan Byrnes -
23. Jack Bytel -
27. Oscar Adams -
29. Jimmy Webster (UFA)
34. Tom Highmore -
36. Daniel McKenzie (RFA) -
37. Leo Connolly -
38. Tom Campbell -
41. Angus McLennan (CAT B) -
45. Jack Peris (CAT B) -

It's worth remembering that you also need to replace those lost. We have 3 draft picks ATM.
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We have as many draft picks as we have vacant list spots at the time the draft is held.
 
gringo2011 said:
I think we got dome on that deal and you'd hope that he'd get us more than Bruce did. Perhaps a pick between 20 to 30. He's a reliable 40+ goal physically resilient player. We'd be stupid to move him on if we got less than a high pick. We need him firing not sacking him.

You rarely get better by losing your better players. Even a pick just gives you a ticket in a lottery that might help in a few years if you're lucky.
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I don't want to lose Membrey either. I think he's been a very solid contributor, and has form over several years, but you just never know when a new coaching and recruitment group comes in. There's usually a few flies in the ointment, and some eyebrow raising decisions. As for the Bruce deal, I similarly thought we were royally screwed. I thought we'd get a late first for him...a regular 40+ goal kicking forward and tall target. They don't grow on trees. I forget what the return was, but I was very surprised. I know we got Jones or whatever out of it...but it wasn't a good deal, and definitely hasn't worked out the way we'd hoped.
 
tomjoad said:
I don't want to lose Membrey either. I think he's been a very solid contributor, and has form over several years, but you just never know when a new coaching and recruitment group comes in. There's usually a few flies in the ointment, and some eyebrow raising decisions. As for the Bruce deal, I similarly thought we were royally screwed. I thought we'd get a late first for him...a regular 40+ goal kicking forward and tall target. They don't grow on trees. I forget what the return was, but I was very surprised. I know we got Jones or whatever out of it...but it wasn't a good deal, and definitely hasn't worked out the way we'd hoped.
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But been a total waste on the Dogs side too
 
gringo2011 said:
You really only need one absolute star quality mid and a second that is around Steele or Crouch level and some depth support and rotations. If Clark, Windhager, Phillipou, Owens, Hotton or even Sinclair could become a gun mid we are right. Perhaps if Coffield ever makes it back we could try him on ball.

I would chase some depth and maybe a bargain priced player who is behind others with development left like how we got Steele.
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The silky inside/outside mid we need isn’t on our list, it’s that simple. It would be great to have one but I think we have more pieces or potential pieces than some think. Windhager needs to play and he’s perfect for getting the ball moving our way. Owens and the pou will both spend time in the midfield and Byrnes also has the skill set to play there. I don’t think we’ve been smashed in the clearances it’s more that we’ve turned the ball over or done nothing with it. Ross and a couple of others have been playing some really lousy football, you have to love the over the shoulder handball to no one rather than take the first option or a tackle.

So a fit Steele, crouch and then a mixture of players rotating through really isn’t that bad, some 5 minute bursts from Sinclair and Gresham adds a different look as well. Anyway I’d love a gun mid but it’s a get in line situation, who wouldn’t. I’d love to have a full list available it would be very interesting to see how some of these guys are rated.
 
Yawkey way said:
The silky inside/outside mid we need isn’t on our list, it’s that simple. It would be great to have one but I think we have more pieces or potential pieces than some think. Windhager needs to play and he’s perfect for getting the ball moving our way. Owens and the pou will both spend time in the midfield and Byrnes also has the skill set to play there. I don’t think we’ve been smashed in the clearances it’s more that we’ve turned the ball over or done nothing with it. Ross and a couple of others have been playing some really lousy football, you have to love the over the shoulder handball to no one rather than take the first option or a tackle.

So a fit Steele, crouch and then a mixture of players rotating through really isn’t that bad, some 5 minute bursts from Sinclair and Gresham adds a different look as well. Anyway I’d love a gun mid but it’s a get in line situation, who wouldn’t. I’d love to have a full list available it would be very interesting to see how some of these guys are rated.
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I might be in the minority here, but I think Hunter has the potential to be that mid we need. If you look at all the goals we've kicked in the past month, you'll notice that him and Pou have both had a fair hand in most of those goals. He's currently sitting at 33% CBA, yet he's 4th on our list for clearances. I reckon he's primed to have a massive back half of the season if we give him the keys to the city.
 
Hunter is a must keep
I think Sydney would take Membrey back
So would gws if they lose himmelberg
Tigers will need to replace reiwoldt
Bombers and Melb fwd line is not complete as well…they would all give a 30-40pick.

Can see Tim playing for tigers swans melb or Bombers, allure of big games, especially if Ross is off him.

Ben king is a better player than Tim Membrey
 
bird_man said:
Hopefully Lyon looks at the potential these kids have and starts introducing them into there a bit more. We saw it happen early but we seem to have gone away from that over the last few weeks and have gone back to backing the older brigade.
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So much for our year of exploration.
Have the coaches been seduced by our early wins into thinking about finals instead and fallen back into the comfort zone and relative safety of our experienced players?

Would be odd considering it was all our youngsters who actually helped get us in this position in the first place.

Im really keen to see players like Windy and Bytel get full games , mostly in the midfield to help their development and see what we’ve got.
 
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