List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part III

[George]

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Order

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Spoiler: Blue Tick Rumours

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[stavro#4]

McQualter to Suns or Saints? Assume former.

Dees

 

[bird_man]

McQualter to Suns or Saints? Assume former.

We can't afford it according to Ross the Boss himself

 

[PoppedCorn]

Not 100% on that
Def part of getting Dow in with a late pick coming back.

Good work PandaG

Shame to see him go for bugger all but oh well, we have to move on and if its a third rounder then take it and run

 

[SaintWWodonga]

McQualter to Suns or Saints? Assume former.

Demons...

 

[Mowman]

This was a good graphic on this topic

Neale and Dunkley

 

[stavro#4]

Neale and Dunkley

Share the Gresh article champ

 

[gringo2011]

Some solid moneyballs in there, Neale the only huge trade outlay from memory?

What did they pay for Dunkley?

 

[Diehard Saint]

This is a bit confusing as a plan though because as Joffa likes to tell us, we aren't even interested in Shiel. He's basically retired and we'd be paying him to receive a pick upgrade.

I was all for bringing in Crouch or Matho for a year or two as a bridge, but I'd rather have taken a fit player over a guy that is already broken down and at an age that won't see him likely to return to his best. I guess if he plays 12 games he's not stealing games off a kid.

Just stop it with Hambling, Jonas, Lycett types though. It's giving my blood pressure a work out.

Just need Shiel to play half a season - which more than likely will be his max….AND bring #13 with him. Win on both accounts.

 

[heynow85]

Can’t cut and paste cos I’m on phone, Jay z put up article on HS website Bombers are offering 600-650 for Gresham. We should get end of first rd/second rounder. No mention of Shiel.

 

[bird_man]

This was a good graphic on this topic

Nearly half a side for the Pies and most of them were cheap.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Probably just know we have bigger fishto fry right now and he isn't going anywhere. We will slowly start ticking them off.

Byrnes has a contract offer in front of him

whats the offer?

 

[kernelT]

What did they pay for Dunkley?

Oh yeah I missed him.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Can’t cut and paste cos I’m on phone, Jay z put up article on HS website Bombers are offering 600-650 for Gresham. We should get end of first rd/second rounder. No mention of Shiel.

Isn’t that similar to what we are paying him? Why would he leave for that?

 

[Remboy]

Look I love stocker now but before he came to us this was all I remembered him for

He’s just playing at the wrong end. Not many of our forwards could do that.

 

[Mowman]

Share the Gresh article champ

AFL trade news: Jade Gresham set to nominate Essendon as preferred new home​

The Bombers already look to have landed Ben McKay and Todd Goldstein, but one more name looks to be headed to Essendon as the Matt Rosa and Adrian Dodoro era kicks off with a bang.
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2 min read
October 3, 2023 - 6:52PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
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03:40
Ralphy's big pre-trade period wrap
AFL: On the Couch's Jon Ralph runs through some of the big trade stories looming in the coming weeks.

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St Kilda small forward Jade Gresham is expected to nominate Essendon as his preferred new home as the Bombers prepare to table a contract offer.
Gresham, 26, is believed to have earned more than $800,000 a year at St Kilda as part of a blockbuster contract, but seems destined for a pay cut to continue his career at Essendon.
The Bombers are keen on Gresham and could land him on a deal upwards of $600,000 a season to add him to the forward line in place of retired goal kicker Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti.
While Essendon is yet to negotiate a new contract with Gresham’s manager, Matthew Bain from TLA, there was a high level of confidence Gresham was headed to Tullamarine for 2024.
As the Herald Sun revealed on September 22, the Bombers are closing in on a historic free agency triple play which could deliver the red and black North Melbourne pair Ben McKay and Todd Goldstein, as well as Gresham.
Goldstein could enter the frame to lead the Bombers’ ruck division in Round 1 if star big man Sam Draper has not recovered in time from serious groin surgery next season.

Jade Gresham is expected to join Essendon. Photo by Michael Klein.
The free agency triple play is a major coup as the Bombers could land three key players without giving away any draft picks under the league’s free agency system.
Essendon has pick eight and is eyeing another star underage prospect in the draft to join Nik Cox, Ben Hobbs, Zach Reid, Archie Perkins as top-line developing prospects.
But attention will turn to the specifics of Gresham’s contract offer from Essendon over the next 48 hours which is what will determine what St Kilda receives in return for him.

A deal in the vicinity of $600,000 – $650,000 a season, plus incentives, could secure St Kilda at best an end-of-first-round or second-round compensation pick for Gresham.
St Kilda wants to bolster its draft hand to add some more top-line talent, but only has pick 13 after breaking through to the finals in the first year under Ross Lyon.

Gresham’s move could aid the Saints in their pursuit of Liam Henry. (Photo by Daniel Carson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)
Another second-round pick would bolster the Saints draft position, but the Dockers are also likely to ask for a choice in the second-round from St Kilda for slick playmaker Liam Henry.
The Saints are likely to open talks for Henry offering a third-round pick.
He will provide some polish and speed the Saints are desperate to add to help increase their scoring capacity and slick ball movement.

More Coverage​

Trade intel: Shiel’s revelation about role at Bombers
Swans’ hardball Grundy play, set to swoop on key defender
The Saints are seen to be in an attractive position following the breakout seasons of youngsters Mitch Owens, Mattaes Phillipou, Marcus Windhager, Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera and Anthony Caminiti.
But the Saints are determined to add more top-line talent through the draft and are open to off-loading Gresham, although the club has kept alive the prospect of matching a bid from Essendon.
St Kilda is also entertaining interest in Jack Billings, Hunter Clark and Nick Coffield, while Dougal Howard is adamant he wants to stay.

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[bird_man]

Isn’t that similar to what we are paying him? Why would he leave for that?

That is what we were paying him for the contract just finished.

Doubt we'd be offering that again though.

 

[Remboy]

So while clarry is getting bandied about, what would the market value be for these players:

Sinclair
Owens
Wilkie
Marshall
King
NWM
Steele

Would you send Nas and our first for Reid?

We could get about 15 first round picks for that lot. We’d clean up in the draft but might not win a game for five years.

 

[Sir Owens]

I love how players are so s**t for us. But not for Sydney

Don’t worry, we’re keeping Hunter Clark who is a jet on the training track apparently.

 

[PoppedCorn]

Gresham, 26, is believed to have earned more than $800,000 a year at St Kilda as part of a blockbuster contract,

 

[Diehard Saint]

I think it would 100% matter to the clubs accepting those picks.

I understand the argument that these players were never available but you still need to understand that draft is diluted and the you are only getting the 16th and 17th rated players.

The draft is already considered t be a fairly average one at best.

I understand all that, but that happens every year - the picks are not a true reflection of their numbers BECAUSE of the compromised picks. No other clubs would even look at a player they have no chance of getting, so it’s almost as if they are not even counted - unfair system that it is.

I understand this draft is not supposed to be as good as next year ( which they often say) but the picks being blown out is the same every year.

 

[botts]

AFL trade news: Jade Gresham set to nominate Essendon as preferred new home​

The Bombers already look to have landed Ben McKay and Todd Goldstein, but one more name looks to be headed to Essendon as the Matt Rosa and Adrian Dodoro era kicks off with a bang.
Jay Clark
Follow
@ClarkyHeraldSun

2 min read
October 3, 2023 - 6:52PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
0 comments




03:40
Ralphy's big pre-trade period wrap
AFL: On the Couch's Jon Ralph runs through some of the big trade stories looming in the coming weeks.

AFL​

Don't miss out on the headlines from AFL. Followed categories will be added to My News.
Follow
St Kilda small forward Jade Gresham is expected to nominate Essendon as his preferred new home as the Bombers prepare to table a contract offer.
Gresham, 26, is believed to have earned more than $800,000 a year at St Kilda as part of a blockbuster contract, but seems destined for a pay cut to continue his career at Essendon.
The Bombers are keen on Gresham and could land him on a deal upwards of $600,000 a season to add him to the forward line in place of retired goal kicker Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti.
While Essendon is yet to negotiate a new contract with Gresham’s manager, Matthew Bain from TLA, there was a high level of confidence Gresham was headed to Tullamarine for 2024.
As the Herald Sun revealed on September 22, the Bombers are closing in on a historic free agency triple play which could deliver the red and black North Melbourne pair Ben McKay and Todd Goldstein, as well as Gresham.
Goldstein could enter the frame to lead the Bombers’ ruck division in Round 1 if star big man Sam Draper has not recovered in time from serious groin surgery next season.

Jade Gresham is expected to join Essendon. Photo by Michael Klein.
The free agency triple play is a major coup as the Bombers could land three key players without giving away any draft picks under the league’s free agency system.
Essendon has pick eight and is eyeing another star underage prospect in the draft to join Nik Cox, Ben Hobbs, Zach Reid, Archie Perkins as top-line developing prospects.
But attention will turn to the specifics of Gresham’s contract offer from Essendon over the next 48 hours which is what will determine what St Kilda receives in return for him.

A deal in the vicinity of $600,000 – $650,000 a season, plus incentives, could secure St Kilda at best an end-of-first-round or second-round compensation pick for Gresham.
St Kilda wants to bolster its draft hand to add some more top-line talent, but only has pick 13 after breaking through to the finals in the first year under Ross Lyon.

Gresham’s move could aid the Saints in their pursuit of Liam Henry. (Photo by Daniel Carson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)
Another second-round pick would bolster the Saints draft position, but the Dockers are also likely to ask for a choice in the second-round from St Kilda for slick playmaker Liam Henry.
The Saints are likely to open talks for Henry offering a third-round pick.
He will provide some polish and speed the Saints are desperate to add to help increase their scoring capacity and slick ball movement.

More Coverage​

Trade intel: Shiel’s revelation about role at Bombers
Swans’ hardball Grundy play, set to swoop on key defender
The Saints are seen to be in an attractive position following the breakout seasons of youngsters Mitch Owens, Mattaes Phillipou, Marcus Windhager, Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera and Anthony Caminiti.
But the Saints are determined to add more top-line talent through the draft and are open to off-loading Gresham, although the club has kept alive the prospect of matching a bid from Essendon.
St Kilda is also entertaining interest in Jack Billings, Hunter Clark and Nick Coffield, while Dougal Howard is adamant he wants to stay.

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I guess we will find out if there is any truth to the storey about the shiels deal.

 

[Sainter88]

Gresham, 26, is believed to have earned more than $800,000 a year at St Kilda as part of a blockbuster contract,

Kissed on the dick that bloke.

 

[StCicatriz]

Interesting that Phil Davis was talking up Sheil's early games this year, suggesting his speed and spread from stoppages is what sets him apart.

ive really liked his comments. seems to know what hes talking about

 

[PoppedCorn]

Imagine if we get a second rounder for gresh...and use it on Henry

 

[StCicatriz]

I love how players are so s**t for us. But not for Sydney

i'm all for sydney loading up on freo's spuds