Resource 2024 AFL Draft discussion thread (Wed Nov 20 to Fri Nov 22)

[GROTTO]

As long as our team don't get cute and reach for a player...just go the best talent and it seems almost universal now that is one of FOS, Lalor, Smith or Draper

Ive also come to accept that potentially Draper may be gone by Pick 4, but that also means most likely we will have either FOS or Smith, which will be welcomed much needed additions to our midfield.

 

[Untouchables22]

I agree, but if we could get up to pick 2 and take our number 1 guy (that we wouldn't get at 4) I would hope they do that.

Depends on the cost. Our F1 should be off the table no matter what.

If we can get a F2 with two F3s, then I'd give that.

IMO, those 4 are so even... any further cost than that it becomes not worth it.

 

[Danger in Texas]

I think this is how it will eventually pan out.

1. Rich Lalor
2. North FOS
3. Carl Smith
4. Adel Draper

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Carlton takes Draper in that scenario (they need straight-line speed), but yeah it’ll basically be that IMO

 

[GROTTO]

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Carlton takes Draper in that scenario (they need straight-line speed), but yeah it’ll basically be that IMO

As I mentioned earlier, it just means we get either Smith or FOS.

Tbh the real risk pick in this draft could be with Carlton if they go Draper at 3, as they would have had the option of a quality Vic kid ie FOS or Smith.

Seeing early 1sts like Luko, Rankine and JHF return home, surely has to give them some pause.

 

[Crow till I die]

Depends on the cost. Our F1 should be off the table no matter what.

If we can get a F2 with two F3s, then I'd give that.

IMO, those 4 are so even... any further cost than that it becomes not worth it.

You 'might' also find North prepared to drop to 4 if they are happy with one of Smith, FOS or Lalor OR...at 4 with one of those still on board, they could look to slide a bit further back with a side inside the top 10 on the night to garner an extra later 1st maybe..so could end up with a future pick and an extra 1st and still be picking well inside the top 10..just a thought.

 

[Untouchables22]

You 'might' also find North prepared to drop to 4 if they are happy with one of Smith, FOS or Lalor OR...at 4 with one of those still on board, they could look to slide a bit further back with a side inside the top 10 on the night to garner an extra later 1st maybe..so could end up with a future pick and an extra 1st and still be picking well inside the top 10..just a thought.

I expect North to slide back, I just don't think we should be the buyer.

They don't need to add another Mid. I think Lalor suits them best with his ability to go forward, but wouldn't be surprised to see them slide back and take a KPF

 

[Coopers]

Birthdates always of interest to Recruiters.. oldest to youngest of those in discussion for our pick noting Levi Ashcroft at 18/12/2006 is the youngest of the top 10 or so.

Jagga Smith - 28/01/2006
Bo Allan - 16/02/2006
Harvey Langford - 15/03/2006
Josh Smillie - 17/05/2006
Finn O'Sullivan - 30/05/2006
Sid Draper - 05/07/2006
Murphy Reid - 30/07/2006
Sam Lalor - 30/08/2006

2006.

Huh.


I am so old.

 

[Danger in Texas]

As I mentioned earlier, it just means we get either Smith or FOS.

Tbh the real risk pick in this draft could be with Carlton if they go Draper at 3, as they would have had the option of a quality Vic kid ie FOS or Smith.

Seeing early 1sts like Luko, Rankine and JHF return home, surely has to give them some pause.

I think Draper seems like the high quality character type that would like to stick it out with one club provided all goes well for him (same with all of that quartet) - though money does talk

 

[Crow till I die]

I expect North to slide back, I just don't think we should be the buyer.

They don't need to add another Mid. I think Lalor suits them best with his ability to go forward, but wouldn't be surprised to see them slide back and take a KPF

Oh sure..although if our guys want to try and ensure Draper, then getting that F2 from some of our F3's to then give to North on the night which would still allow North to further trade if they wanted. Its just a trade with us keeps them in the zone for one of the top 4 so the purchase cost for us to move up may not be too great (ie not a F1) and if it guarantees Draper, the club may say that is a small price to pay.

 

[GROTTO]

Oh sure..although if our guys want to try and ensure Draper, then getting that F2 from some of our F3's to then give to North on the night which would still allow North to further trade if they wanted. Its just a trade with us keeps them in the zone for one of the top 4 so the purchase cost for us to move up may not be too great (ie not a F1) and if it guarantees Draper, the club may say that is a small price to pay.

By draft night, teams (and players) usually know how the Top 10 will almost exactly pan out, so it will be interesting if by that time, we know if Draper falls to us at 4 or to the Blues at 3.

Our only avenue to get ahead would be to deal with North if the Blues are keen. It seems to change every few days on their board.

 

[119others]

I really love our spot in the draft.

Each of Lalor, FOS, Jagga and Draper provide a point of difference that we need.

Would be happy to sit and take whoever falls to us out of that lot. Hopefully Haggis thinks the same!

Agreed. Even being 2 spots further back could mean missing these 4 and perhaps even Langford. In a sense - assuming Hamish doesn’t do anything stupid - we sit back and take a real quality option that’s left over without the stress of choosing - unless we trade up to 2 to guarantee someone (Draper perhaps if we feel Blues are going to take him)

Pick splits, bold trades and early whispers: Latest intel in mega AFL draft state of play

Pick splits, bold trades and early whispers: Latest intel in mega AFL draft state of play

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Rival clubs spoken to foxfooty.com.au on Thursday believe the Tigers are strongly considering three players at Pick 1: Powerful GWV Rebels forward-midfielder Sam Lalor, star Oakleigh Chargers midfielder Finn O’Sullivan and Oakleigh Chargers ball magnet Jagga Smith. Big-bodied Dandenong Stingrays Harvey Langford is an outside chance, too.

The big pick haul gives Richmond ample options and flexibility heading into the national draft to select strategically. For instance, they could take a pure midfielder like O’Sullivan or Smith at Pick 1 then acquire a gun key-position player at their next selection, which is currently Pick 6.

But could that next selection end up coming earlier?

 

[119others]

Kinda wild that arguably the best performed prospect is also the youngest

True but only 2-3 mths between the last handful - immaterial (compared to a Philippou for example)

 

[119others]

I think this is how it will eventually pan out.

1. Rich Lalor
2. North FOS
3. Carl Smith
4. Adel Draper

I reckon it will be this

1 Rich Lalor
2 Rich Smith
3 Blues Draper
4 Crows FOS or Langford wouldn’t surprise

Tiges much better placed to get 2 from Kangas than we are unfortunately (we could try and bluff Kangas we will take their favoured tall at pick 4 if they do the Tiges swap but probably not believable) Would love Draper but just have a feeling it ain’t going to happen

 

[119others]

As I mentioned earlier, it just means we get either Smith or FOS.

Tbh the real risk pick in this draft could be with Carlton if they go Draper at 3, as they would have had the option of a quality Vic kid ie FOS or Smith.

Seeing early 1sts like Luko, Rankine and JHF return home, surely has to give them some pause.

Agree BUT it’s mainly the weaker teams that lose gun players. The 3 you mentioned being Suns and Kangas.

Blues don’t lose too many top end draft picks and have attracted a HEAP over the years (brown paper bags might still exist! - is this why they are known as “the baggers”?) and even Houston stated that was his preference

 

[GROTTO]

I reckon it will be this

1 Rich Lalor
2 Rich Smith
3 Blues Draper
4 Crows FOS or Langford wouldn’t surprise

Tiges much better placed to get 2 from Kangas than we are unfortunately (we could try and bluff Kangas we will take their favoured tall at pick 4 if they do the Tiges swap but probably not believable) Would love Draper but just have a feeling it ain’t going to happen

Its definitely an intriguing draft, as pick swaps can be a game changer as to who we get at 4.

Definitely believed if the Eagles still had 3, they would have taken Draper, as a Vic kid is also just as much a flight risk.

Blues would take Draper with the potential flight risk still being there but not with FOS. I guess it depends really now how much better is Draper compared to FOS to justify the risk? I dont think its Ebert vs Danger levels.

 

[Carn The Texan]

Don't disagree with a lot of this. Does feel like Draper will probably end up with us, and the poster's point about him hopefully displacing Laird from the centre is what I'd hope to see as well.

 

[GROTTO]

Saw this post on the Blues, board, its a long one so easier to post the link, but it appears their posters tend to think/agree "today" that Draper is a red flag for them.

Analysis - 2024 National Draft

Broadcast Guide - Live Draft ... 1st Round tonight (20th Nov) from 7.00PM 2nd Round tomorrow night (21st Nov) from 7.00PM FoxFooty (Ch 504) Kayo foxfooty.com.au https://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-tracker/2024#draft-board https://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-tracker/2024#live-blog

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[Cromulant]

Saw this post on the Blues, board, its a long one so easier to post the link, but it appears their posters tend to think/agree "today" that Draper is a red flag for them.

Analysis - 2024 National Draft

Broadcast Guide - Live Draft ... 1st Round tonight (20th Nov) from 7.00PM 2nd Round tomorrow night (21st Nov) from 7.00PM FoxFooty (Ch 504) Kayo foxfooty.com.au https://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-tracker/2024#draft-board https://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-tracker/2024#live-blog

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Don't mind it, pretty balanced analysis

 

[hugecannon]

Port have made thier delistings
I would rookie Scully if we had room

I liked Kyle Marshall as a KPD option in his draft year, but he hasn’t really kicked on since he was on the list.

Anyone watched his games to see if he’s worth keeping an eye on?

Agree on Scully, he was always going to need 3-4 years before his body filled out.

 

[rankine13]

I really love our spot in the draft.

Each of Lalor, FOS, Jagga and Draper provide a point of difference that we need.

Would be happy to sit and take whoever falls to us out of that lot. Hopefully Haggis thinks the same!

Myself if it’s a choice between smith and Draper it’s Smith for me

 

[GROTTO]

Myself if it’s a choice between smith and Draper it’s Smith for me

I think there is almost zero chance we dont take Draper in that scenario.

 

[Crow-eater]

Myself if it’s a choice between smith and Draper it’s Smith for me

I highly doubt it's going to be a choice. The top 4 seems pretty set, and we'll take the one left. Unless North surprise everyone again.

 

[WAG]

I think Draper seems like the high quality character type that would like to stick it out with one club provided all goes well for him (same with all of that quartet) - though money does talk

Following on from that thought, do you get a vibe from FOS or JS that they are potential flight risks?

 

[Cromulant]

Following on from that thought, do you get a vibe from FOS or JS that they are potential flight risks?

Hard to say, there's always a concern but our playing group seems pretty tight these days.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Following on from that thought, do you get a vibe from FOS or JS that they are potential flight risks?

Not really, definitely not so much that I’d avoid them

Smillie would be the one I might be worried about, but he’s not in consideration