Resource 2024 AFL Draft discussion thread (Wed Nov 20 to Fri Nov 22)

[AFC979810]

You’d be surprised

They use this sort of stuff

If he’s contracted to play afl then player managers would have a very dim view of it unless it was mutual decision

Disagree. He has been under contract for 6 years and he has played AFL 7 times (being subbed multiple times).

Agents would love if he was released. They would appreciate an unwanted player being paid out (at full commission to everyone) and getting an opportunity to go play football or earn more money elsewhere.

 

[Cromulant]

Hamish said he was extremely pleased with how Tyler went this year.

He played in what was the worst side in the SANFL for most of the year, he also mentioned he was attending trade school full time which is was proud of

 

[119others]

Any trades to happen would have to involve North wanting Tauru (so one of Draper/Langford will be there at 6)

Tigers weren't even willing to part with 6, 18 for 2 (so no chance they part with a F1, even if it's a swap of F1), would be a ballsy call to do that year 1 of the rebuild

North go FOS I believe and the dreams of trading dies with it

with respect, so many people are making assumptions about how things land tonight and believing media chat makes things fait accompli

• no guarantee Tiges dont ultimately do 6 and 18 for 2 - time will tell and they would hardly telegraph it
• people celebrating Draper at 4 and discussing our express pace midfield next year

I just think lets wait before celebrating as if any draft is going to cause surprises this is it. Nobody has won the 'poker game' yet

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Disagree. He has been under contract for 6 years and he has played AFL 7 times (being subbed multiple times).

Agents would love if he was released. They would appreciate an unwanted player being paid out (at full commission to everyone) and getting an opportunity to go play football or earn more money elsewhere.

In AFL would be ok if a club wanted him

The crows contracted him to be afl listed for 2 years

Club error , club needs to wear it .

Things can also change . I remember Chris Mayne looking like an amateur footballer when he went to pies then having a fair old turnaround

 

[AFC979810]

In AFL would be ok if a club wanted him

The crows contracted him to be afl listed for 2 years

Club error , club needs to wear it .

Yeah - but this is now a business.

Sure they wear it -but they wear it by having the salary cap implications - not by keeping a spud on an AFL list just so the player feels good about being on a list.

Things can also change . I remember Chris Mayne looking like an amateur footballer when he went to pies then having a fair old turnaround

Sure it can. But if the club wants to terminate a player and the player gets paid out in full - then what is the problem?

Thats the thing I dont understand. The player is getting their full financial agreed contract. Would it be better for the player to sit on the list and the coach to say - we aint playing you no matter what?

 

[Vader]

and LESS than zero percent Tigers give up F1 when its 99.99999999999999% going to be number one

Yes, their F1 will be #1 - but do they also have any other teams' F1 picks? I know they had recruitment managers at several other clubs acting as if they were still Richmond employees, throwing ridiculous draft picks at them for a whole variety of players. I can't remember what they ended up with in the way of future picks.

 

[119others]

Yes, their F1 will be #1 - but do they also have any other teams' F1 picks? I know they had recruitment managers at several other clubs acting as if they were still Richmond employees, throwing ridiculous draft picks at them for a whole variety of players. I can't remember what they ended up with in the way of future picks.

good point. they almost certainly WILL have F1 from other clubs BUT likely not until they get into their late teen picks or even picks in 20's

Rumoured to push 1-2 later picks into F1's

 

[119others]

Yes, their F1 will be #1 - but do they also have any other teams' F1 picks? I know they had recruitment managers at several other clubs acting as if they were still Richmond employees, throwing ridiculous draft picks at them for a whole variety of players. I can't remember what they ended up with in the way of future picks.

west coast (2), Dons (2) and Suns (3) F1 according to this

AFL Draft Order 2025

View the latest up-to-date 2025 AFL Draft Order. Pick swaps and trades from the AFL Trade Period included.

www.zerohanger.com

 

[Viva la Mattner]

I hear you, but I have wondered if tonight, it gets to our pick 4 and Smith is still there - Richmond like him a lot as they do Lalor. Might an on night offer from them come where it may be 4 + F1 for their 6 + F1..yes its likely pick 1 to us and we may improve next year but were bottom 4 this year. But to get Smith now, is that enough to twist their arm on such a possible attempt?

Bite thier hand off if offering future first

That is Dyson Sharp locked in


Then just take one of Langford/Smillie/Reid

 

[119others]

listening to SEN with Gazey - and Andy Maher (strong Blues fan) who also just said Blues taking Smith

Lots of similar information now. Either things happen as expected OR a great misinformation campaign by the Blues here

 

[Eagleboy2011]

listening to SEN with Gazey - and Andy Maher (strong Blues fan) who also just said Blues taking Smith

Lots of similar information now. Either things happen as expected OR a great misinformation campaign by the Blues here

Lots of

Happening. Makes for good TV tonight.

 

[119others]

Hamish said he was extremely pleased with how Tyler went this year.

Assuming you are talking about Hamish talking on Gettable this morning, was anyone else a little surprised he also talked up Tauru as a top 3-4 option (IIRC). Just thought that was a little strange and wondering if any hidden messaging behind it

 

[GROTTO]

with respect, so many people are making assumptions about how things land tonight and believing media chat makes things fait accompli

• no guarantee Tiges dont ultimately do 6 and 18 for 2 - time will tell and they would hardly telegraph it
• people celebrating Draper at 4 and discussing our express pace midfield next year

I just think lets wait before celebrating as if any draft is going to cause surprises this is it. Nobody has won the 'poker game' yet

Tigers should go hard for Pick 2, it would really potentially accelerate their rebuild getting the two best mids in this draft.

 

[Crow till I die]

Assuming you are talking about Hamish talking on Gettable this morning, was anyone else a little surprised he also talked up Tauru as a top 3-4 option (IIRC). Just thought that was a little strange and wondering if any hidden messaging behind it

Talking him up to try and use some last minute influence on North's psyche maybe (trying to plant a further seed of doubt in their minds)...as if North take him, then its more likely our guy is there at 4

 

[119others]

Lots of

Happening. Makes for good TV tonight.

Nah mate, I am watching the draft tonight not some blokes walking gently around a rainbow

Tigers should go hard for Pick 2, it would really potentially accelerate their rebuild getting the two best mids in this draft.

Agreed 100%. Tiges should do it. It’s whether Kangas are prepared to then miss best 4 mids and likely Tauru by sliding back to 6

 

[GROTTO]

Nah mate, I am watching the draft tonight not some blokes walking gently around a rainbow

Agreed 100%. Tiges should do it. It’s whether Kangas are prepared to then miss best 4 mids and likely Tauru by sliding back to 6

If North keep resisting for Pick 2, the "realistic" best that Tigers could offer is Picks 6 and 10.

Getting the two "best" players in the 2024 draft and potentially the "best" player in 2025 draft, assuming they win the spoon, will really set the foundation for them. I use quotation marks, because we dont know how these players will turn out in the future.

 

[GROTTO]

Assuming you are talking about Hamish talking on Gettable this morning, was anyone else a little surprised he also talked up Tauru as a top 3-4 option (IIRC). Just thought that was a little strange and wondering if any hidden messaging behind it

North blew their load too early over Tauru.

If they kept their cards close to their chest and gave misinformation, they could have easily done a trade with the Tigers for Pick 6 and another 1st, without attracting the attention of a threat by Melbourne to take Tauru at Pick 5.

 

[jackster83]

Now that FR0GGY has been banned, this place can finally get back to normality.

 

[GROTTO]

Stole this from the Main Board.

Who'll hand over the jumpers?​

In a growing tradition on draft night, club stars will greet their new draftees and hand them their first club guernsey. Here's who will do the honour for your club this year...

Adelaide: Nathan van Berlo
Brisbane: Chris Johnson
Carlton: Lance Whitnall
Essendon: Dustin Fletcher

Dustin Fletcher

Age

49

Ht

198cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.0

4star

K

12.3

5star

HB

3.7

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.2

3star

MG

301.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

14.2

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

2.8

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.4

4star

Fremantle: Justin Longmuir
Geelong: Shannon Byrnes
GWS: Tom Green
Gold Coast: Jake Rogers
Hawthorn: Jarryd Roughead

Jarryd Roughead

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.3

4star

G

2.0

5star

No current season stats available

D

7.2

2star

K

3.8

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

0.8

3star

G

1.0

4star

Melbourne: Nathan Jones
North Melbourne: Keith Greig
Port Adelaide: Matthew Primus

Matthew Primus

Age

49

Ht

198cm

Wt

109kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

6.2

4star

HO

16.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

12.6

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

6.4

4star

HO

13.8

5star

Richmond: Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin

9

Trent Cotchin

Age

34

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.4

5star

K

13.8

5star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

5.2

5star

D

19.0

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

9.5

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.3

5star

CL

3.5

4star

D

16.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.6

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.0

3star

, Jack Riewoldt, Dylan Grimes

2

Dylan Grimes

Age

33

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

5.3

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.4

4star

MG

136.0

2star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.4

2star

MG

136.0

2star

D

9.4

3star

K

3.8

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

, David Astbury

12

David Astbury

Age

33

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.1

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

204.2

3star

D

14.8

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.0

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

MG

230.8

4star

D

8.4

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

St Kilda: Andrew Thompson, Justin Koschitzke

Justin Koschitzke

Age

42

Ht

197cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.4

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

0.2

3star

G

0.0

1star

Sydney: Brett Kirk
West Coast: John Worsfold
Western Bulldogs: Mitch Wallis

 

[ams4crows]

Stole this from the Main Board.

Who'll hand over the jumpers?​

In a growing tradition on draft night, club stars will greet their new draftees and hand them their first club guernsey. Here's who will do the honour for your club this year...

Adelaide: Nathan van Berlo
Brisbane: Chris Johnson
Carlton: Lance Whitnall
Essendon: Dustin Fletcher
Fremantle: Justin Longmuir
Geelong: Shannon Byrnes
GWS: Tom Green
Gold Coast: Jake Rogers
Hawthorn: Jarryd Roughead
Melbourne: Nathan Jones
North Melbourne: Keith Greig
Port Adelaide: Matthew Primus
Richmond: Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin, Jack Riewoldt, Dylan Grimes, David Astbury
St Kilda: Andrew Thompson, Justin Koschitzke
Sydney: Brett Kirk
West Coast: John Worsfold
Western Bulldogs: Mitch Wallis

Seriously Van Berlo?? Ffs could we not ask McLeod or Modra or even Rory Sloane to do this job?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Is there a world in which Atkins, Lukosius and Burgess are bezzy mates from their time on the Gold Coast, so in order to keep the Rat and Lukosius happy, Port swoop in for Burgess?

 

[jackster83]

Seriously Van Berlo?? Ffs could we not ask McLeod or Modra or even Rory Sloane to do this job?

Yeah, surely it's a job for Sloane. Changing of the guard and all that.

If we draft a Victorian, he probably won't even know who VB is.

 

[Cromulant]

Seriously Van Berlo?? Ffs could we not ask McLeod or Modra or even Rory Sloane to do this job?

Former captain of the club ??

 

[GreyCrow]

What time is it live as opposed to 2 hours of talking

And is this the thread for it given we are at page 324

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Hamish said he was extremely pleased with how Tyler went this year.

No he didn't ......Hamish said the Club was very pleased with his written assignments .....no mention of on-field play, other than "he has a lot of work to do"

 

[Trigger13]

Thoughts on M Reid? Looks like Pear want him.