So having Mark Williams and Craig McRae also winning it doesn’t give it any credibility in your eyes?
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Sorry meant to include this quote along with Greys and yep I get the criteria but some other names of McRae and Williams gives it some credibility IMO
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I also noted you cherry picked the names
I assume you mean Choco not Shotgun and Craig McRae was in 2013
Just a step in his own personal development - do you think McRae presented the Collingwood Board with his plaque he received?
That is my small concern too.
OK I will try again - and nothing else from me so happy for you to 'do a George' (have the last say
). The award looked to run 2012 and 2013 and then stopped until 2022 (for whatever reason). I hardly 'cherry picked'From what I could see from this site AFL coaches official site https://aflcoaches.com.au/awards/development-coach-of-the-year, the only 4 winners of this award are:
(1) Craig McRae - Premiership Coach. Enough said.
(2) Mark Williams (now I didn't check if it was 'Shotgun' but as we both know Mark 'Choco' Williams works for Melbourne so I don't think you need to be a genius to summise this one). Renowned exceptional development coach at Dees and Tigers before that. Oh, and Premiership coach
(3) Chris Maple - never heard of him but perhaps we can look at this Footscray Premiership team (below) 3 years after he was named and ask if any of their youngsters (or players under 25 which he would have been developing as 18-22 youngsters years earlier) did OK on the big day, or indeed have good careers overall? https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/teams/afl/football-department/chris-maple
(4) Godden - the only dual winner of the (clearly very prestigious) award.
Western Bulldogs
B: 39 Jason Johannisen 30 Joel Hamling 5 Matthew Boyd
HB: 24 Shane Biggs 38 Dale Morris 10 Easton Wood (c)
C: 7 Lachie Hunter 4 Marcus Bontempelli 42 Liam Picken
HF: 11 Jackson Macrae 12 Zaine Cordy 9 Jake Stringer
F: 29 Tory Dickson 17 Tom Boyd 14 Clay Smith
Foll: 23 Jordan Roughead 6 Luke Dahlhaus 21 Tom Liberatore
Int: 16 Toby McLean 18 Fletcher Roberts 20 Josh Dunkley 35 Caleb Daniel
Coach: Luke Beveridge
Development Coach of the Year: Chris Maple
Development Coach of the Year
The Development Coach of the Year has been reintroduced in 2022 for the first time since 2013. It is awarded based on input from both players and coaches, on a 50-50 basis. Coaches are asked to rate development coaches at their club, based on their overall performance this year, allocating each a score out of 10 (10 being the highest) and then obtaining an average. This is matched by an average score out of 10 from their playing group to determine an overall score.Winners
2023 Michael Godden (Adelaide Crows) 2023 Mark Williams (Melbourne) 2022 Michael Godden (Adelaide) 2013 Chris Maple (Western Bulldogs) 2012 Craig McRae (Collingwood)
| 2023 | Michael Godden (Adelaide Crows) |
|---|---|
| 2023 | Mark Williams (Melbourne) |
| 2022 | Michael Godden (Adelaide) |
| 2013 | Chris Maple (Western Bulldogs) |
| 2012 | Craig McRae (Collingwood) |
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You can keep your passive aggressive BS to yourselfOK I will try again - and nothing else from me so happy for you to 'do a George' (have the last say
I wasnt aware - because I dont care - that the award had only 4 awardees. Apologies for cherry picked
I dont need to read anymore
Even the AFL think its a joke award. The AFC did a write in campaign to boost our club resume at a time we needed a boost. Better off asking who his competition was ie no not the other coaches but the other nominees
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Your boy Polky now invited to the extended State Combine...
Jeffcrowe that lad I mentioned Sam Toner another call up, not surprised given what I've seen the last couple of games, highly dangerous tallish medium forward. Still find it hard to believe Zak Johnson and Lucca Grego didn't get a National Combine invite, would happily draft them with our 2nd pick onwards. Thankfully Ollie Hannaford now gets a chance to strut his stuff too, hard nosed as any in this draft.
Riak Andrew (Vic Country/Dandenong Stingrays)
Benny Barrett (South Australia/South Adelaide)
Tom Bell (Western Australia/South Fremantle)
Riley Bice (Werribee VFL)
Hugh Boxshall (Western Australia/Claremont)
Evan Bradley (South Australia/North Adelaide)
Joel Brown (Western Australia/Peel Thunder)
Rome Burgoyne (South Australia/Woodville-West Torrens)
Charlie Burke (Western Australia/Subiaco)
Tom Cochrane (South Australia/Central District)
Zane Cochrane (Vic Metro/Oakleigh Chargers)
Waylon Davey-Motlop (Vic Metro/NT Academy/Oakleigh Chargers)
Sam Davidson (Richmond VFL)
Oliver Dean (Tasmania Devils)
Josaia Delana (NSW-ACT/Giants Academy)
Tate Delmenico (South Australia/Woodville-West Torrens)
Jordan Doherty (Vic Country/Dandenong Stingrays)
Asher Eastham (Vic Country/Gippsland Power)
Tom Gillett (Queensland/Brisbane Academy)
Lucca Grego (Vic Metro/Western Jets)
Jhett Haeata (Vic Metro/Sandringham Dragons)
Oliver Hannaford (Vic Country/GWV Rebels)
Zac Harding (Vic Country/Murray Bushrangers)
Jett Hasting (South Australia/Woodville-West Torrens)
Kade Herbert (South Australia/Woodville-West Torrens)
Lennox Hofmann (Vic Metro/Sandringham Dragons)
Damon Hollow (Vic Metro/Calder Cannons)
Lucas Impey (Vic Metro/Western Jets)
Xavier Ivisic (Vic Country/Geelong Falcons)
Zak Johnson (Vic Metro/Northern Knights)
Ben Kennedy (NSW-ACT/Murray Bushrangers)
Luke Kennedy (Vic Metro/Sandringham Dragons)
Nash King (Vic Metro/Calder Cannons)
Mitchell Kirkwood-Scott (Vic Metro/Sandringham Dragons)
Ajang Kuol Mun (Geelong VFL)
Blake Leidler (Vic Metro/Oakleigh Chargers)
Daniel Lowther (Vic Country/Geelong Falcons)
Loch Mactaggart (WA/Perth)
Keighton Matofai-Forbes (Vic Metro/Western Jets)
Thomas McKay (South Australia/Glenelg)
Bailey McKenzie (Vic Metro/Sandringham Dragons)
Ricky Mentha (Northern Territoy/Gippsland Power)
Jacob Molier (South Australia/Sturt)
Louie Montgomery (South Australia/North Adelaide)
Josh Murphy (NSW-ACT/Murray Bushrangers)
Jayden Nguyen (Vic Metro/Calder Cannons)
Charlie Orchard (Vic Country/Dandenong Stingrays)
Elwood Peckett (Vic Country/Dandenong Stingrays)
Darcy Petersen (Western Australia/Peel Thunder)
Jay Polkinghorne (South Australia/Norwood)
Luke Quaynor (Vic Metro/Oakleigh Chargers)
Harrison Ramm (South Australia/Glenelg)
Wil Rantall (Vic Country/GWV Rebels)
Patrick Retschko (Vic Metro/Oakleigh Chargers)
Max Rohr (Western Australia/Claremont)
Charlie Rozenes (Vic Metro/Sandringham Dragons)
Patrick Said (Vic Metro/Calder Cannons)
Jacob Sheean (South Australia/South Adelaide)
River Stevens (Vic Country/Geelong Falcons)
Nathaniel Sulzberger (Tasmania/Sandringham Dragons)
Sam Toner (Vic Country/Dandenong Stingrays)
Tyler Welsh (South Australia/Woodville-West Torrens)
Your boy Polky now invited to the extended State Combine...
Jeffcrowe that lad I mentioned Sam Toner another call up, not surprised given what I've seen the last couple of games, highly dangerous tallish medium forward. Still find it hard to believe Zak Johnson and Lucca Grego didn't get a National Combine invite, would happily draft them with our 2nd pick onwards. Thankfully Ollie Hannaford now gets a chance to strut his stuff too, hard nosed as any in this draft.
TELSTRA STATE COMBINE DRAFT COMBINE INVITES
Riak Andrew (Vic Country/Dandenong Stingrays)
Benny Barrett (South Australia/South Adelaide)
Tom Bell (Western Australia/South Fremantle)
Riley Bice (Werribee VFL)
Hugh Boxshall (Western Australia/Claremont)
Evan Bradley (South Australia/North Adelaide)
Joel Brown (Western Australia/Peel Thunder)
Rome Burgoyne (South Australia/Woodville-West Torrens)
Charlie Burke (Western Australia/Subiaco)
Tom Cochrane (South Australia/Central District)
Zane Cochrane (Vic Metro/Oakleigh Chargers)
Waylon Davey-Motlop (Vic Metro/NT Academy/Oakleigh Chargers)
Sam Davidson (Richmond VFL)
Oliver Dean (Tasmania Devils)
Josaia Delana (NSW-ACT/Giants Academy)
Tate Delmenico (South Australia/Woodville-West Torrens)
Jordan Doherty (Vic Country/Dandenong Stingrays)
Asher Eastham (Vic Country/Gippsland Power)
Tom Gillett (Queensland/Brisbane Academy)
Lucca Grego (Vic Metro/Western Jets)
Jhett Haeata (Vic Metro/Sandringham Dragons)
Oliver Hannaford (Vic Country/GWV Rebels)
Zac Harding (Vic Country/Murray Bushrangers)
Jett Hasting (South Australia/Woodville-West Torrens)
Kade Herbert (South Australia/Woodville-West Torrens)
Lennox Hofmann (Vic Metro/Sandringham Dragons)
Damon Hollow (Vic Metro/Calder Cannons)
Lucas Impey (Vic Metro/Western Jets)
Xavier Ivisic (Vic Country/Geelong Falcons)
Zak Johnson (Vic Metro/Northern Knights)
Ben Kennedy (NSW-ACT/Murray Bushrangers)
Luke Kennedy (Vic Metro/Sandringham Dragons)
Nash King (Vic Metro/Calder Cannons)
Mitchell Kirkwood-Scott (Vic Metro/Sandringham Dragons)
Ajang Kuol Mun (Geelong VFL)
Blake Leidler (Vic Metro/Oakleigh Chargers)
Daniel Lowther (Vic Country/Geelong Falcons)
Loch Mactaggart (WA/Perth)
Keighton Matofai-Forbes (Vic Metro/Western Jets)
Thomas McKay (South Australia/Glenelg)
Bailey McKenzie (Vic Metro/Sandringham Dragons)
Ricky Mentha (Northern Territoy/Gippsland Power)
Jacob Molier (South Australia/Sturt)
Louie Montgomery (South Australia/North Adelaide)
Josh Murphy (NSW-ACT/Murray Bushrangers)
Jayden Nguyen (Vic Metro/Calder Cannons)
Charlie Orchard (Vic Country/Dandenong Stingrays)
Elwood Peckett (Vic Country/Dandenong Stingrays)
Darcy Petersen (Western Australia/Peel Thunder)
Jay Polkinghorne (South Australia/Norwood)
Luke Quaynor (Vic Metro/Oakleigh Chargers)
Harrison Ramm (South Australia/Glenelg)
Wil Rantall (Vic Country/GWV Rebels)
Patrick Retschko (Vic Metro/Oakleigh Chargers)
Max Rohr (Western Australia/Claremont)
Charlie Rozenes (Vic Metro/Sandringham Dragons)
Patrick Said (Vic Metro/Calder Cannons)
Jacob Sheean (South Australia/South Adelaide)
River Stevens (Vic Country/Geelong Falcons)
Nathaniel Sulzberger (Tasmania/Sandringham Dragons)
Sam Toner (Vic Country/Dandenong Stingrays)
Tyler Welsh (South Australia/Woodville-West Torrens)
I hope he does well and that we have an interest!
Actually a bit of a fan of Hollow from Calder
Real natural footballer , going to watch more in next few weeks
Yes Toner looks good , there’s always one that pops out of nowhere late
Have heard crows have shown some interest in the 22 yo Sam Davidson from Richmond VFL - medium forward which is interesting
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Long term view - Taj Garrett 15 is already attracting interest from clubs who see his aerobic capacity
But he is a Gold Coast fan and loved touring GCs venue while up there with the U/16s
But he is a Gold Coast fan and loved touring GCs venue while up there with the U/16s
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Taj Garrett?
Leif visited my high school in Adelaide many many years ago
Something I wouldn’t share
The older tough lads at Marion High heckled the bejesus out of him and he was taken away very promptly by his minders
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Shaking like a Leif then
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Interesting that Sid is ‘managed’ this week at South Adelaide. Especially when the league had a bye last weekend
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Request of Port & Crows maybe haha
He left Marion high school in tears after getting sledged
He had the last laugh though. His music is timeless.
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Sorry if it’s already been covered on this board but can anyone shed light if/why Draper is being “managed” this week, particularly after the bye last week? Pretty confident he’ll be an Eagle or a Crow next year.
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