List Mgmt. 2024 AFL Draft (Picks 13, 29, 36, 50, 94, 112, 130)

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Joe Berry is a need.

Rioli is turning 30 next year with at max 2-3 years good of football left in him. He also goes missing during the mid season for cultural reasons and injuries. He missed 8 games this season.

SPP is coming back from an ACL you can't expect him to be at his best its just not realistic and an unfair expectation to have.

Joe Richards is a 9 gamer. Not proven at AFL level just yet. He is an unknown we are speculating what he could be and all the best to him.

DBJ is an above average forward that became a forward out of necessity he isn't a natural forward.

Out of the 4 mentioned above Rioli and SPP are the only 2 ELITE forwards.

Charleson/ Anastasopoulos need a bit more time and Benny Barrett he was playing in the mid at SANFL U18/Reserve maybe to be hidden away so opposition recruiters don't keep an eye on him.

McEntee bye bye end of season 2025
And how do you know Berry will have an impact straight away? It could be quite a big change for him physically and it might take a year or even 2. That's the thing with small forwards like him who don't operate on pure speed. It can take some time and I feel like in this draft, there's a good chance you find a similar player in a later pick. We absolutely have to target a mid/fwd with our first pick in order to give any chance of Rozee or JHF impacting up forward
 
And how do you know Berry will have an impact straight away? It could be quite a big change for him physically and it might take a year or even 2. That's the thing with small forwards like him who don't operate on pure speed. It can take some time and I feel like in this draft, there's a good chance you find a similar player in a later pick. We absolutely have to target a mid/fwd with our first pick in order to give any chance of Rozee or JHF impacting up forward

Thats true you don't know if Berry will have an impact straight away. But thats the same for the other draftees a part from the top 5.

None of them are the finished product its obviously going to take a few pre-seasons before we get the best out of them.
Disagree regarding your statement about his pace.

But thats the great thing about this forum with everyone opinions.

Your assuming that the mid/fwd (Cooper Hynes) draftee will make an impact straight away.
Your argument goes both ways. Impact at AFL level is a complete different story. Depends on the individual, the club development/strategy and where they are played initially.

With our small/medium forward line it doesn't ooze with talent and class and Berry will have more of a chance to have an impact. Thats my opinion.

If we had two 1st round picks we wouldn't be having this discussion as its clearly obvious the two we would both pick.
 
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For those who care, Ned Bowman spoke on 5AA and said 10 clubs interviewed him with Port and Crows being part of that 10. Wouldn't mind him as a late pick

The real sticky point with this draft is, whoever we select with our first pick determines who we'll select the following picks.

Interestingly enough, I've heard we have a lot of interest in Hynes, Trainor and Berry (I guess these 3 are very likely to be at our pick). Hynes has the highest ceiling of those 3, Trainor would signal a change in strategy to pick a Tall defender with a FRP, highly rated him but the concussions are a tad worrying. Berry, well he's loved in this board for some reason so I guess will make a few people here happy!

Would be interesting to see what we do if someone from the top 10 slipped through. I'm still very keen on sliding 13 back and bringing 29 forward in some way
Hard to know who’s going to be there at our pick but if the choice was between Hynes, Trainor, Berry, Lindsay & Hotton.
My preference
Lindsay
Trainor
Hotton
Shanahan
Trevaglia
Hynes
Allan
Berry
 
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Here's my top 50 rankings. I've seperated them into talent groups. It's a really hard year this year but I feel the top 5 are a step above the others.

#1 - ASHCROFT, Levi - Sandringham - 179cm Mid

#2 - SMILIE, Josh - Eastern - 194cm Mid

#3 - DRAPER, Sid - South Ade - 182cm Mid

#4 - ALLAN, Bo - Peel - 191cm Mid/Def

#5 - SMITH, Jagga - Oakleigh - 181cm Mid

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#6 - HOTTON, Taj - Sandringham - 182cm Mid/Fwd

#7 - ARMSTRONG, Harry - Sandringham - 195cm KPF

#8 - O'SULLIVAN, Finn - Oakleigh - 182cm Mid

#9 - LALOR, Sam - GWV - 188cm Mid/Fwd

#10 - SHANAHAN, Jobe - Bendigo - 195cm KPF

#11 - MARSHALL, Sam - Sandringham - 185cm Mid

#12 - LOMBARD, Leonardo - Gold Coast - 179cm Mid

#13 - TAURU, Alix - Gippsland - 193cm KPD

#14 - REID, Murphy - Sandringham - 180cm Mid

#15 - TRAINOR, Luke - Sandringham - 194cm KPD

#16 - BARRAT, James - Bendigo - 194cm KPF/KPD

#17 - TRAVAGLIA, Tobie - Bendigo - 187cm Def

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#18 - OUGH, Jack - GWV - 194cm Mid/Utility

#19 - DATTOLI, Jesse - Northern - 179cm Fwd/Mid

#20 - DODSON, Alex - Sturt - 203cm Ruck

#21 - URQUHART, Luke - East Freo - 184cm Mid

#22 - OLIVER, Harrison - Sandringham - 181cm Def

#23 - KAKO, Isaac - Calder - 175cm Fwd

#24 - LANGFORD, Harvey - Dandenong - 190cm Mid

#25 - HYNES, Cooper - Dandenong - 190cm Mid/Fwd

#26 - LINDSAY, Xavier - Gippsland - 183cm Mid

#27 - DAVIS, Hamish - Claremont - 190cm Mid/Fwd

#28 - HANNAFORD, Oliver - GWV - 180cm Fwd/Mid

#29 - BERRY, Joe - Murray - 181cm Fwd

#30 - SIMS, Thomas - Northern - 199cm Fwd/Ruck

#31 - CLARKE, Angus - Glenelg - 188cm Def

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#32 - WEST, Charlie - WWT - 194cm KPF

#33 - GERRYN, Kayle - West Perth - 199cm Fwd/Ruck

#34 - GROSS, Tom - Oakleigh - 181cm Fwd/Mid

#35 - WHITLOCK, Matt - Murray - 198cm KPD/KPF

#36 - MORAES, Christian - Eastern - 183cm Mid

#37 - DAY-WICKS, Archer - Bendigo - 186cm Mid/Fwd

#38 - ALGER, Jasper - Oakleigh - 182cm Fwd/Mid

#39 - WHITLOCK, Jack - Murray - 198cm KPF

#40 - JACQUES, Lachie - Geelong - 184cm Defender

#41 - FAULL, Jonty - GWV - 195cm KPF

#42 - CAMPOREALE, Lucas - Glenelg - 184cm Mid

#43 - HARGRAVE, Phoenix - South Ade - 181cm Mid

#44 - WELSH, Tyler - WWT - 190cm Fwd

#45 - MURPHY, Josh - Murray - 190cm Fwd

#46 - O'FARRELL, Harry - Calder - 196cm KPD

#47 - BOXHSALL, Hugh - Claremont - 187cm Mid

#48 - CAMPOREALE, Ben - Glenelg - 184cm Mid

#49 - CHAMPION, Malakai - Subiaco - 172cm Fwd

#50 - ATKINSON, Ned - Sturt - 181cm Fwd
Langford at 24 is criminal. Hope the rest of the AFL sees it like you and we get him at our 1st
 
I wouldn't write off Anastasopoulos as another small forward option on our list already too. He needs to put on some kg's but he showed a bit working up and down the ground in the sanfl as the season wore on. He could push for selection in 2025.

Charleson, well at this stage it's only fingers crossed for him. had a few injuries which limited his output, hope to see more from him in 2025.
 
So, let's say come Draft day/night, we have our eye on a player, maybe two, and they get taken before pick 13?

As one poster postulated, we could trade 13 for the Swan's 19 and 22.
Maybe also 36 and 50 for Brisbane's 27 anf 66.
That gives us 19, 22, 27, 29 and 66.
It seems a given that picks under 30 will drop back with bid matchng 2 to 3 extra spots, whilst picks over 50 will likely move up the order by 10, maybe 12 spots.

Leaving that aside, in the order that they occur (without adjustment), we mcould "potentially" select:

19 - Hynes: Tall, strong marking, ball winning mid/forward, clean hands, elite hanball skills, passable footskills in field kicking, goodcaround goal, fast enough without being electric, demonstrates good repeat efforts.
22- Barrat: Excellent contested and intercept marking KPP, can play both ends of the ground well, decent kick.
27 - West/Gerryne/Sims: Mobile talls with decent foot speed and strong bodied types who can all ruck. West clean below his knees, Gerryne agile and kicks either foot, Simms gets good separation on the lead.
29 - Davis: Tall, powerful marking mid/forward, excellent endurance, impacts the scoreboard and gets a f aswir bit of it. Has decent foot speed. Quick with his hands, although some disposals miss the target ie. behind a player running past. Done well at WAFL League level already.
66 - Alger: Quick, nimble, agile small forward. Has tricks and X-factor. Impacts scoreboard well. Can take a hanger too.

Rookie: Burgoyne.

Cat B: Barrett.

We've deleted/retired 9 players to date, and brought 3 in already via trades. That's 6 spots open. We draft 7 as above, meaning we need one more delisting from either Mac and cheese, Charleson or Williams.
 
So, let's say come Draft day/night, we have our eye on a player, maybe two, and they get taken before pick 13?

As one poster postulated, we could trade 13 for the Swan's 19 and 22.
Maybe also 36 and 50 for Brisbane's 27 anf 66.
That gives us 19, 22, 27, 29 and 66.
It seems a given that picks under 30 will drop back with bid matchng 2 to 3 extra spots, whilst picks over 50 will likely move up the order by 10, maybe 12 spots.

Leaving that aside, in the order that they occur (without adjustment), we mcould "potentially" select:

19 - Hynes: Tall, strong marking, ball winning mid/forward, clean hands, elite hanball skills, passable footskills in field kicking, goodcaround goal, fast enough without being electric, demonstrates good repeat efforts.
22- Barrat: Excellent contested and intercept marking KPP, can play both ends of the ground well, decent kick.
27 - West/Gerryne/Sims: Mobile talls with decent foot speed and strong bodied types who can all ruck. West clean below his knees, Gerryne agile and kicks either foot, Simms gets good separation on the lead.
29 - Davis: Tall, powerful marking mid/forward, excellent endurance, impacts the scoreboard and gets a f aswir bit of it. Has decent foot speed. Quick with his hands, although some disposals miss the target ie. behind a player running past. Done well at WAFL League level already.
66 - Alger: Quick, nimble, agile small forward. Has tricks and X-factor. Impacts scoreboard well. Can take a hanger too.

Rookie: Burgoyne.

Cat B: Barrett.

We've deleted/retired 9 players to date, and brought 3 in already via trades. That's 6 spots open. We draft 7 as above, meaning we need one more delisting from either Mac and cheese, Charleson or Williams.
Barratt will be there at 29 or even be there at 36.
Doubt Alger will be there at 66
 
So, let's say come Draft day/night, we have our eye on a player, maybe two, and they get taken before pick 13?

As one poster postulated, we could trade 13 for the Swan's 19 and 22.
Maybe also 36 and 50 for Brisbane's 27 anf 66.
That gives us 19, 22, 27, 29 and 66.
It seems a given that picks under 30 will drop back with bid matchng 2 to 3 extra spots, whilst picks over 50 will likely move up the order by 10, maybe 12 spots.

Leaving that aside, in the order that they occur (without adjustment), we mcould "potentially" select:

19 - Hynes: Tall, strong marking, ball winning mid/forward, clean hands, elite hanball skills, passable footskills in field kicking, goodcaround goal, fast enough without being electric, demonstrates good repeat efforts.
22- Barrat: Excellent contested and intercept marking KPP, can play both ends of the ground well, decent kick.
27 - West/Gerryne/Sims: Mobile talls with decent foot speed and strong bodied types who can all ruck. West clean below his knees, Gerryne agile and kicks either foot, Simms gets good separation on the lead.
29 - Davis: Tall, powerful marking mid/forward, excellent endurance, impacts the scoreboard and gets a f aswir bit of it. Has decent foot speed. Quick with his hands, although some disposals miss the target ie. behind a player running past. Done well at WAFL League level already.
66 - Alger: Quick, nimble, agile small forward. Has tricks and X-factor. Impacts scoreboard well. Can take a hanger too.

Rookie: Burgoyne.

Cat B: Barrett.

We've deleted/retired 9 players to date, and brought 3 in already via trades. That's 6 spots open. We draft 7 as above, meaning we need one more delisting from either Mac and cheese, Charleson or Williams.

The Brisbane trade doesnt work because 27 will be eaten up in the Ashcroft selection, hopefully at pick 1
 
Langford at 24 is criminal. Hope the rest of the AFL sees it like you and we get him at our 1st

I have a big query on Langfords scope for improvement. I see him as a Duursma type who might have an ok year 1 but never improves on that, which is why i have him down the list
 

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So, let's say come Draft day/night, we have our eye on a player, maybe two, and they get taken before pick 13?

As one poster postulated, we could trade 13 for the Swan's 19 and 22.
Maybe also 36 and 50 for Brisbane's 27 anf 66.
That gives us 19, 22, 27, 29 and 66.
It seems a given that picks under 30 will drop back with bid matchng 2 to 3 extra spots, whilst picks over 50 will likely move up the order by 10, maybe 12 spots.

Leaving that aside, in the order that they occur (without adjustment), we mcould "potentially" select:

19 - Hynes: Tall, strong marking, ball winning mid/forward, clean hands, elite hanball skills, passable footskills in field kicking, goodcaround goal, fast enough without being electric, demonstrates good repeat efforts.
22- Barrat: Excellent contested and intercept marking KPP, can play both ends of the ground well, decent kick.
27 - West/Gerryne/Sims: Mobile talls with decent foot speed and strong bodied types who can all ruck. West clean below his knees, Gerryne agile and kicks either foot, Simms gets good separation on the lead.
29 - Davis: Tall, powerful marking mid/forward, excellent endurance, impacts the scoreboard and gets a f aswir bit of it. Has decent foot speed. Quick with his hands, although some disposals miss the target ie. behind a player running past. Done well at WAFL League level already.
66 - Alger: Quick, nimble, agile small forward. Has tricks and X-factor. Impacts scoreboard well. Can take a hanger too.

Rookie: Burgoyne.

Cat B: Barrett.

We've deleted/retired 9 players to date, and brought 3 in already via trades. That's 6 spots open. We draft 7 as above, meaning we need one more delisting from either Mac and cheese, Charleson or Williams.
The Hunt for October the 31st: One more day for possible one more delisting.
 

Richmond/Hotton actually makes sense. Richmond will be writing next year off anyway and Hotton not likely to do anything meaningful till late next year at best taking rehabilitation and a decent preseason into account.

Wouldn't be letting them use anything past us to get him though.

Berry I don't mind but not 1st round. Certainly not before we've taken the best mid or KPP.

13 is still Hotton or split for mine.
 
Probably locking mine in : based approx on movement due to F/s and academy bids.

16 - X Lindsay (hbf, wing , dev mid)
31 - O Hannaford ( x factor forward, also can play as small def and development mid)
35 - K Gerreyn ( Hybrid Tall Forward/ backup ruck)
46 - J Barrat ( best available tall mobile defender )

Rookie: Burgoyne.

Cat B: Barrett.
 
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Is there any actual phantom drafts that list who is likely to go at each pick, even just the the first round?

I find these ranking lists a bit pointless. I'm only really interested in who we would be likely to pick or be looking at, or is it too early for that?
 
Does anyone know how serious Teainor's concussion history is? I think it makes the difference between yes please and no thankyou.
Don't quote me as I can't quite remember but I think I heard it has been going on for two years or so.

Someone will have better intel than me trying to rummage through the annals of my mind.
 
Why would we need another key forward?

Out of our key forwards only Georgiades looks like consistently performing

We hope Lukosius does (I think he will)
Marshall gets concussed every time he steps foot on the field
Finlayson had a terrible year and would be 50/50 to stay on the list if he has another terrible year
Lord went backwards at a rate of knots and may not be the answer
Ratugolea kicked 0.1 in his last 6 games playing as a KPF

There are question marks on all bar 1 of our KPFs. There is a very decent chance that at the end of next year, Marshall is retired due to concussions, Lord proves to be not good enough and Finlayson spends half the year in the reserves. At that point, our KPF stocks would be almost all timey bad.

Will we pick a KPF early? I personally don't think we will, but I think it should definitely be part of our discussion, if Shanahan is still on the board at our pick
 

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