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List Mgmt. 2024 AFL Draft (Picks 13, 29, 36, 50, 94, 112, 130)
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Firstly, highly doubt we'll move up, thankfully we can't do something like what we did with Sinn and cough up a future 2nd cause we traded our future first. We just dont have the currency to move up.
Secondly, we really need to be hitting this draft hard. Ideally I would've taken 5 or 6 picks if we had the list spots but we don't. I think it'd be foolish to give up any more picks in such an even draft.
Secondly, we really need to be hitting this draft hard. Ideally I would've taken 5 or 6 picks if we had the list spots but we don't. I think it'd be foolish to give up any more picks in such an even draft.
I would say Murphy Reid is a very Robbie Gray pick, could be him?
Inside the top 10 or pick 10 specifically and we are trying to do a deal with Richmond? And if we are just trying to get in front of west coast and Richmond are happy to slide back to 13 for a later pick swap then wouldn’t their pick 11 be enough?
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You have to go for it, but how do you think this would realistically happen? In a hypothetical sense, I don't see why any team would give up a top 10 pick to us for cheap when they could get Smilie themselves.
Like 13 + 29 won't get us a top 10 pick. If we are giving away 13, 29 and 36 for a top 10 pick well its foolish to put all eggs in one basket when you've been burnt by the Sinn pick, who btw I still highly rate and hope he has a bright future, but in such a deep draft, I am not convinced thats the smartest move.
FWIW I really like the look of Smilie in our midfield. But I am pouring cold water over this because I am not building up hope of us getting him haha
Surely you don’t need 29 and 36 to move up 3 spots. Especially if it’s Richmond who we are trying to deal with who have picks 10 and 11 and just need to work out who we want and who west coast want and could get who they were after anyway at 13.
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The dynamic that Richmond creates in the first round with all of their picks is an interesting one. They potentially prefer getting 2 out of north to get the best 2 mids, then they can really spread the player type that they are after around with later picks. I could see them taking a tall and small forward as well as a tall and running defender. North want tauru apparently too and both Melbourne and st kilda could look at a tall too. The potential for a top mid to slide to 10 is definitely there, but not realistically to our current pick. I wouldn’t want to give too much away though because we have multiple list needs to fill.
yeah i agree
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I feel like this is an Occam’s Razor situation, in that the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one.
Going hard to move up just three places in the draft order seems a big risk if we’re hoping to nab a potential slider from the projected top 6-8 (e.g. Smilie or Reid) - as we’d need to be certain that all 9 of the selections before us are going to pass on our target, otherwise there’s no point in making the trade.
That would suggest to me that we’re very confident that our guy will be there at pick 10, and they’re likely someone that is almost no chance of going earlier (i.e. we’re only concerned that Richmond or West Coast are interested in them at either pick 10, 11 or 12).
I wouldn’t have thought that Richmond would be willing to deal pick 10 to us if they’re super hot on our target, so I’d say we’re trying to trade up because we’re worried about West Coast taking our guy.
The popular opinion is that West Coast are just about certainties to take Bo Allan at 12 - so I reckon that’s the most logical answer to who we’re after.
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There does appear to be a bit of a gap appearing between the top 10-11 available players and our pick. We're more in the mix of the next bracket. I don't know if we can pull it off, but it would be beneficial to get into that upper group if the cost isn't prohibitive.
Unless we are preparing now but only going to pull the trigger as a live trade
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It would be a sin to mimic our move for Sinn if all we were doing it for was to get Bo Allan imo
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I definitely hope not
Depends on whether we are trying to get pick 10 or get a top 10 pick.
Because we don't need the best kick in this draft?
Cleanest, highest iq player in the draft
Who can play high half forward then transition into mid once wines retires. he is a great kick and decision maker
he is harry sheezel in play style.
Absolutely makes no sense to me that people here don't want him haha
The beauty is he could start in the Houston role immediately too
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I’m not necessarily saying that it’s the right move, or that I particularly want us to draft Allan.
I’m just saying it is the most logical explanation as to why we would trade up to 10, especially when our recruiting department has a history of making these kind of moves in the past (e.g. like you said with Sinn a few years ago).
I doubt they’re going hard for a three pick upgrade unless there’s a specific target in mind, otherwise I just don’t see the value in giving up additional draft capital for a marginally better chance at a general slider in what is described as a very even, deep draft. In that case, surely you would just roll the dice that any general slider lasts another three picks to 13, and keep the rest of your draft capital and pick another young player from a highly rated second round.
I could be wrong of course, but it just seems more logical to me (given the context around the draft order, etc)
that Allan is our target.
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Smillie solves a lot of problems once wines is gone.
Problem is Richmond will take him with 6.
The Drafting Guys don't mind doing their best to move up in the draft to grab a guy they are particularly enamoured with.
They are also very good at working at the strength of yearly drafts and the tiers of each draft.
I think they would normally look to go up and get someone but I think in this draft full of talent they will prefer to diversify if anything and try and get more picks.
When you lose a star player like Houston, you want to get a star or the possibility of a star back and with the picks we have, even in this draft, it will be more difficult to achieve than usual. But you can't really think that way with our list and this draft that has a whole heap of good players down to 40 or so. They will get many cracks at good players in this draft and they might have their eye on a fair few guys.
It will be interesting to see if they go for best player available or draft for need. The list is at that point where drafting for need is important but you have to be ready to pounce if the opportunity comes up and a player is irresistible.
If we draft for need, we will be picking up a few tall blokes.
With our young list, this is the draft to nail and an influx of talent could see us set up for the future and even an incompetent coach like Hinkley with so much talent at his disposal could nab a flag.
They are also very good at working at the strength of yearly drafts and the tiers of each draft.
I think they would normally look to go up and get someone but I think in this draft full of talent they will prefer to diversify if anything and try and get more picks.
When you lose a star player like Houston, you want to get a star or the possibility of a star back and with the picks we have, even in this draft, it will be more difficult to achieve than usual. But you can't really think that way with our list and this draft that has a whole heap of good players down to 40 or so. They will get many cracks at good players in this draft and they might have their eye on a fair few guys.
It will be interesting to see if they go for best player available or draft for need. The list is at that point where drafting for need is important but you have to be ready to pounce if the opportunity comes up and a player is irresistible.
If we draft for need, we will be picking up a few tall blokes.
With our young list, this is the draft to nail and an influx of talent could see us set up for the future and even an incompetent coach like Hinkley with so much talent at his disposal could nab a flag.
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Murphy Reid.
I know it is going to sound bizarre to you but football IQ is vey high on my list of what I want in a player as well.The ones I really love are Tauru and Reid actually. But I am having to pivot to someone else because of where we are in the draft.
I just think I value natural football craft differently to others do. Its teachable to a certain extent but I think having it naturally is a big positive. He also has the size to go with it so I feel he's a better combo.
I really don't see the hype around Allan other than that he can breakaway from stoppages with speed which I'll admit he's very good at, and tackling too. But his disposals really worry me.
It is just that I consider breakaway speed from contests exceptionally highly as it is a trait that only a handful of players have in the competition and some of the best players have it. With speed, you are able to break lines and in the modern game, that is also right up there.
With Bo Allan, it is that breakaway speed in a 191cm that is already powerful that is hard for me to resist. The thing with Bo is that he has the most chance of flaming out with the Top 15 but I think he will be able to fix or at least work on his deficiencies in the AFL.
It's interesting that you like Tauru because he is more of an athlete than a footballer but he's got huge potential. For mind, he reminds me of a springier Bergman. Reid, on the other hand, is pure footballing talent. If he is there at our pick, he will be hard to pass up on.
The actual draft itself is going to be pretty intense this year.
Whoa. I just saw C4's post that we are looking to trade up.
I don't have a problem with it.
If they can get into the top 10 and think they can nab a player who they believe has the profile of a number 1 pick then they should go for it.
I don't have a problem with it.
If they can get into the top 10 and think they can nab a player who they believe has the profile of a number 1 pick then they should go for it.
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