you make a very good point here WW. Pity but those days may now be passed. He had knee issues last year and i think the year before. It was quite innocuous on Saturday when he landed on the ground until he then stopped moving..And with Thilthorpes history of knee issues .....it would be stupid in the extreme for him to be rucking in the future ....where knee on knee clashes are common, and you're jumping / landing awkwardly with body contact