2024 Draft Thread.

[Mat Mann]

Draft Period, November 20–21

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
• Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm

 

[stavro#4]

Ok, sounds like I need to get my head around Armstrong, seeing as every second mock draft has us taking him.
Haven't watched his highlights ,he is being compared to Jezza....what is everyones beef with him on here?

Looks great when the ball hits the deck. Fantastic agility. Dead eye for goal.

Poor contested mark. Played for the all conquering Dragons and metro sides who took all before them. So did that provide an over sustenance that he won’t get at AFL level ala Jack Watts?

 

[Gavinmitchell11]

.

Ok, sounds like I need to get my head around Armstrong, seeing as every second mock draft has us taking him.
Haven't watched his highlights ,he is being compared to Jezza....what is everyones beef with him on here?

Interesting that he tested top 5 or so for the agility test but wasn’t in either of the top 10 vertical jump tests.

 

[Saints43]

72 + hours of this left.

I'm ready to move on from the worry of what I don't know what will happen to the worry of what I know has happened.

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[Diehard Saint]

Meaningless is a bit harsh, they cost us a couple of top 5 picks

In all seriousness though, I do tend to write off teams that have a late resurgence when it doesn't matter anymore. It obviously shows they can play because they beat good sides with a lot to play for. But you'd like to see them win a few more while still contending with the beast of expectation.

It would be good if they actually bothered to look a little deeper into the reason why we were sh*t earlier (many injuries, super cr*p draw) and why we were so much better in those “meaningless” games second half of the season ( best 22 players becoming available and then match fit). Despite that, many very close losses.

They just reek of lazy journalists taking everything at face value, no depth of analysis at all which is why I dont let the opinions of the ilk of those 2 muppets upset me.

 

[Verdun]

Wow was thinking on Friday this thread would reach 500 pages by draft night - will do so this evening!!

Loving the conjecture on here!!!!

Great time of year to be a Saints tragic especially with some high picks but in Saints fashion not really high with the scope for change.

Solid work posters...

 

[akaifu]

I'm ready to move on from the worry of what I don't know what will happen to the worry of what I know has happened.

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I’m ready to start worrying about who we’re picking with pick 5 (30 after bids) next year

 

[Mstr Strokesman]

SEN Phantom has us taking Allan and Armstrong. Seriously do they not read Big Footy? Yuck!

Yuck x2

 

[stavro#4]

It leaves St Kilda weighing up potential slider Draper and Bendigo running machine Tobie Travaglia amid potential bids on Essendon’s academy prospect Isaac Kako and Gold Coast’s Leo Lombard.

The Saints are also in talks to trade one of the picks for two later selections in the first round, with Greater Western Sydney able to consider a deal with picks 15, 16 and 21.

- Jay Clark

 

[Mr Platinum]

Looks great when the ball hits the deck. Fantastic agility. Dead eye for goal.

Poor contested mark. Played for the all conquering Dragons and metro sides who took all before them. So did that provide an over sustenance that he won’t get at AFL level ala Jack Watts?

You must be thinking of Lance Armstrong because he is a contested marking beast, that, along with his fitness and leading patterns, as well kicking for goal, are his elite AFL traits.

Just ask Matthew Lloyd, who said he’s the best contested mark he’s seen at his age, and that includes Max and Ben King.

 

[Verdun66]

I wrote here a few days ago that with time closing in we seem to be in line for almost every player. FOS now appearing occasionally. And Draper. Amazing really.

Maybe Cal’s mock draft might get closer to the way it will go. But even then it is so hard to predict. And the permutations of pick swaps mean there will probably be a few surprises. Who is to say our 7 and 8 aren’t really that much different to 5 and 6 which we may have got.

I’m of the view that if we’d ended up with 5 we may not have got the pick we got for Battle. The AFL. You can’t trust ‘em! It could have been end of First Round.

Only my opinion but I’m wary of FOS. His injuries and lack of high production (despite the quality) makes me wonder. And the aspect that was reported in here that his interviews may have not gone well. Maybe a nice problem to have if he dropped to us.

And Smyllie. Not sure about him either. His drop out of top calculations has been interesting. Might end up being a great player, but seems to have bust potential.

I’m warming to Langford. Competitive and skilfull. And then if one of the top guys in people’s thoughts drop to our next pick then fine. Otherwise a split into two picks in the teens and all sorts of desirable players seem to be in that range.

Going to be great viewing.

 

[stavro#4]

You must be thinking of Lance Armstrong because he is a contested marking beast, that, along with his fitness and leading patterns, as well kicking for goal, are his elite AFL traits.

Just ask Matthew Lloyd, who said he’s the best contested mark he’s seen at his age, and that includes Max and Ben King.

A contested marking beast he is not.

Now I can’t answer whether the shoulder injury has a part to play in that and maybe he was pre injury

 

[L_W_P]

Wildcard call time:

Melbourne WONT take Armstrong.

They have Van Rooyan & took Matt Jefferson with their first pick 2 years ago.

Gut feel is they load up on mids - Smillie/Langford at 5 then Lindsay/Reid at 9 - in order to support Trac, Oliver & Viney for another crack at the flag.

They might grab Tauru, but gut feel is they go double mid.

What does this mean for us?

Well, there's been talk we like Armstrong. I think that's a bit of smoke and mirrors to try and get Melbourne @5 or Richmond @6 to take him first.

If the Tigers hold #6 then I think they might grab him.

If North get #6 as part of a swap for #2 then I think Armstrong gets all the way through to the Tigers.

 

[Saints43]

It would be good if they actually bothered to look a little deeper into the reason why we were sh*t earlier (many injuries, super cr*p draw) and why we were so much better in those “meaningless” games second half of the season ( best 22 players becoming available and then match fit). Despite that, many very close losses.

They just reek of lazy journalists taking everything at face value, no depth of analysis at all which is why I dont let the opinions of the ilk of those 2 muppets upset me.

But at the same time anyone on fox footy will split the atom to find a reason why Essington will become a force again or an excuse for Carlton losing a match.

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[Saints43]

It leaves St Kilda weighing up potential slider Draper and Bendigo running machine Tobie Travaglia amid potential bids on Essendon’s academy prospect Isaac Kako and Gold Coast’s Leo Lombard.

The Saints are also in talks to trade one of the picks for two later selections in the first round, with Greater Western Sydney able to consider a deal with picks 15, 16 and 21.

- Jay Clark

I love Draper. I will be delighted if we were to get him on board.

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[stavro#4]

Wildcard call time:

Melbourne WONT take Armstrong.

They have Van Rooyan & took Matt Jefferson with their first pick 2 years ago.

Gut feel is they load up on mids - Smillie/Langford at 5 then Lindsay/Reid at 9 - in order to support Trac, Oliver & Viney for another crack at the flag.

They might grab Tauru, but gut feel is they go double mid.

What does this mean for us?

Well, there's been talk we like Armstrong. I think that's a bit of smoke and mirrors to try and get Melbourne @5 or Richmond @6 to take him first.

If the Tigers hold #6 then I think they might grab him.

If North get #6 as part of a swap for #2 then I think Armstrong gets all the way through to the Tigers.

Matthew Jefferson is one of 3 players taken in the top 20 of the 2022 draft yet to play a game.

1. Is Jedd Busslinger who was in bust territory until late this season

2. Konstanty who was about to be delisted at the swans before a late trade to north.

It’s likely Jefferson doesn’t amount to anything at this point. Let alone a dependable player. The dees have been crying out for a focal point.

 

[_Maximus_12]

I’ll go out on a limb and say that I don’t mind taking Armstrong with 8.

Keeler hasn’t proven to be more than a long shot to make the grade. Caminiti will be moved to the backline and Sharman is a 3rd tall. We could definitely do with a second gun forward to pair with King long term.

 

[stavro#4]

I love Draper. I will be delighted if we were to get him on board.

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I think we all would.

If not - I still hope for Langford

 

[Mstr Strokesman]

You must be thinking of Lance Armstrong because he is a contested marking beast, that, along with his fitness and leading patterns, as well kicking for goal, are his elite AFL traits.

Just ask Matthew Lloyd, who said he’s the best contested mark he’s seen at his age, and that includes Max and Ben King.

That’s a big call, that I couldn’t agree with.
Pack marking looked to be his deficiency,more a lead up forward.
Even if he is this aerialist supremo at his height he will be found out at AFL level.
I think Lloydy gets a tad too excited about the Haileybury boys

 

[akaifu]

I’ll go out on a limb and say that I don’t mind taking Armstrong with 8.

Keeler hasn’t proven to be more than a long shot to make the grade. Caminiti will be moved to the backline and Sharman is a 3rd tall. We could definitely do with a second gun forward to pair with King long term.

Sure, but are you going to prioritise a key forward over a small forward (to replace Butler), a key back (to replace Battle), and a midfielder?

 

[BrutThough]

It leaves St Kilda weighing up potential slider Draper and Bendigo running machine Tobie Travaglia amid potential bids on Essendon’s academy prospect Isaac Kako and Gold Coast’s Leo Lombard.

The Saints are also in talks to trade one of the picks for two later selections in the first round, with Greater Western Sydney able to consider a deal with picks 15, 16 and 21.

- Jay Clark

Draper would be ideal.

 

[_Maximus_12]

Sure, but are you going to prioritise a key forward over a small forward (to replace Butler), a key back (to replace Battle), and a midfielder?

Are Hoffman and Cole not defenders? To go with Shoey, Hastie and Caminiti that’s relative depth for our d50.

I don’t believe butler will need replacing for a couple more years. He finished the year in the same vein he played 2023 once he was over his niggles.

 

[Mstr Strokesman]

Draper would be ideal.

Perfect pairing up with Pou.
I am thinking he is Carlton bound because of his close relationship with Campreale twins

 

[stavro#4]

Are Hoffman and Cole not defenders? To go with Shoey, Hastie and Caminiti that’s relative depth for our d50.

I don’t believe butler will need replacing for a couple more years. He finished the year in the same vein he played 2023 once he was over his niggles.

To be fair another defender - let’s say Trainor. Along with Cole.

Means we can retain King Sharman and Caminiti as talls upfront with Keeler returning to the Forward ruck role that suits him best

 

[akaifu]

Are Hoffman and Cole not defenders? To go with Shoey, Hastie and Caminiti that’s relative depth for our d50.

I don’t believe butler will need replacing for a couple more years. He finished the year in the same vein he played 2023 once he was over his niggles.

I see Cole as a JVE replacement. Hofmann as a Paton replacement. Battle is the main hole in our defence, but there are other depth holes to fill too

I agree Butler has another year left but what if he doesn't? Then its just a repeat of the start of this year when our forward line had no ground-level representation and Wilson/Garcia got stuck filling in roles they are not suited to. Collard also isn't someone we can rely on at this stage

 

[ScrappyDo]

I’ll go out on a limb and say that I don’t mind taking Armstrong with 8.

Keeler hasn’t proven to be more than a long shot to make the grade. Caminiti will be moved to the backline and Sharman is a 3rd tall. We could definitely do with a second gun forward to pair with King long term.

A bit presumptuous given Keeler was knowingly taken as a long term prospect.
If it happens though, then so be it.