2024 Draft Thread.

[Mat Mann]

Draft Period, November 20–21

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
• Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm

 

[Yawkey way]

Just a sec
Myself and a few others wanted to keep Battle because of this very scenario but were shouted down from the roof tops. were told that it wasn't a risk and an A grade mid was the only option

I said much earlier its always a risk losing a very good player ( last 3 years 2 top tens and a 3rd in the B&F) for magic beans

Rolled the dice without doubt.

 

[stavro#4]

Not even in the conversation for 9 and never really in the mix for 3

The “Rhino” would disagree about pick 3.

And yes not in the conversation is my point.

Yes we flagged an interest. But we have been to scared to get shit done.

Carlton and Melbourne have put us to shame with the courage to go balls deep.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

I'm not sure I'll make it to tomorrow night with some of the unadulterated horse being posted on here.

Yeah yeah, ignore, blah, blah.

FMD.

 

[_Maximus_12]

100% its untenable. you can't shop the idea of a top 5 pick to rebuild the midfield, highlight battle as that very avenue to get it, then turn around be like "oh shit sorry, bad luck"

So if it doe's play out like that, who we holding responsible ?

SOS & Gubby ?

I'd probably hold the entire football department accountable. This 'dual narrative' approach often leads to hanging around in no mans land. It's easier to rebuild on the fly when the existing talent at the club is good enough to maintain a top 8 position ala Geelong, Sydney, Brisbane etc. I don't like the dual narrative personally, we need to be investing in a future far more than we are our present.

If we want high end talent from the draft we either need to trade up OR finish low enough on the ladder to access it.

I think the fact we haven't exposed Keeler this year was a missed opportunity in the last month. Felt we played Membrey too much when we knew he was likely to leave, and the season was cooked, similarly types like Jones were given more responsibility. Whilst we were more competitive in the interim, what's the benefit in the long term? I'm not suggesting tanking by any means, but I'd rather we took the opportunity when the season was cooked to learn more about some of the players that will be there long term.

Dual narrative is a dangerous game to play because now, we're still looking for elite midfield talent and we're subsequently not much closer to a balanced list that can grow into a contender

 

[StCicatriz]

The “Rhino” would disagree about pick 3.

And yes not in the conversation is my point.

Yes we flagged an interest. But we have been to scared to get shit done.

Carlton and Melbourne have put us to shame with the courage to go balls deep.

hang on wait...

are you saying the reason we have got a better draft hand is because we have been too scared to make a move?

 

[Mowman]

The “Rhino” would disagree about pick 3.

And yes not in the conversation is my point.

Yes we flagged an interest. But we have been to scared to get shit done.

Carlton and Melbourne have put us to shame with the courage to go balls deep.

Who is the Rhino ?
If you're right and to scared to get shit done. Move them on

Have said for years gubby is useless and didn't want SOS as i have never rated him

 

[Joffaboy]

Had to laugh at today's post from the Gettable boys referring to Saint's fans going ballistic online about Cal's predictions.

Never know who's reading your comments.

Well they were correct, last night was embarrassing for many in here.

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[Train12]

Mate,

I still think we will get at least very good mid with either 7 or 8

Just can't believe people are taking last nights mock draft as gospel. Cal himself has said this year is very even and hard to pick

Who are you predicting with picks 7 and 8 Mowman ?

 

[StCicatriz]

I'd probably hold the entire football department accountable. This 'dual narrative' approach often leads to hanging around in no mans land. It's easier to rebuild on the fly when the existing talent at the club is good enough to maintain a top 8 position ala Geelong, Sydney, Brisbane etc. I don't like the dual narrative personally, we need to be investing in a future far more than we are our present.

If we want high end talent from the draft we either need to trade up OR finish low enough on the ladder to access it.

I think the fact we haven't exposed Keeler this year was a missed opportunity in the last month. Felt we played Membrey too much when we knew he was likely to leave, and the season was cooked, similarly types like Jones were . Whilst we were more competitive in the interim, what's the benefit in the long term? I'm not suggesting tanking by any means, but I'd rather we took the opportunity when the season was cooked to learn more about some of the players that will be there long term.

Dual narrative is a dangerous game to play because now, we're still looking for elite midfield talent and we're subsequently not much closer to a balanced list that can grow into a contender

100% agree on this dual narrative crap.

if its rebuilding through the draft then ross isn't the appointment you make as he'll always get the side to out perform. you'll always be mid ladder with a bad list.

and if it is going to be the case then you need to be bold and creative with how you target the draft using trading of picks and or players.

they want their cake and eat it too. i suspect so any outcome can be pointed to being a positive one.

 

[stavro#4]

hang on wait...

are you saying the reason we have got a better draft hand is because we have been too scared to make a move?

Who is the Rhino ?
If you're right and to scared to get shit done. Move them on

Have said for years gubby is useless and didn't want SOS as i have never rated him

Didn’t get the job done.

 

[bakes10]

This place is melting. Let's wait until after the draft instead of melts over hypothetical outcomes.

Dalrymple picked the Bont when others passed over him and he picked Chad Warner

1

Chad Warner

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

4star

CL

0.0

1star

at pick 39. Let's trust him.

 

[Yawkey way]

Mate,

I still think we will get at least very good mid with either 7 or 8

Just can't believe people are taking last nights mock draft as gospel. Cal himself has said this year is very even and hard to pick

It’s fun mowman, every rumour in trade period is true, every mock draft is spot on .

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Who is the Rhino ?
If you're right and to scared to get shit done. Move them on

Have said for years gubby is useless and didn't want SOS as i have never rated him

There's getting shit done & then there's mortgaging everything you've got on one (albeit promising) young player.

Melbourne & Carlton are both in very different circumstances to us.

If it blows up in their faces (like it has for us with just single picks), they're gonna feel the hurt big time.

 

[Yawkey way]

The “Rhino” would disagree about pick 3.

And yes not in the conversation is my point.

Yes we flagged an interest. But we have been to scared to get shit done.

Carlton and Melbourne have put us to shame with the courage to go balls deep.

Just a small difference is list quality which allows them to swing for the fences.

 

[jumperfan]

Can we please reveal the new bad logo so we can all move to complaining about that instead of the draft? I like variety in my melts.

 

[_Maximus_12]

100% agree on this dual narrative crap.

if its rebuilding through the draft then ross isn't the appointment you make as he'll always get the side to out perform. you'll always be mid ladder with a bad list.

and if it is going to be the case then you need to be bold and creative with how you target the draft using trading of picks and or players.

they want their cake and eat it too. i suspect so any outcome can be pointed to being a positive one.

I disagree that Ross isn't the right person for a rebuild. He's really turned the standards around in terms of how our players prepare and present but I just think he's making the same mistakes that Richo and Ratten made playing players that aren't taking us closer to a premiership.

This is the main fundamental flaw I see at present with RTB. Everything else is a tick from me.

 

[Mowman]

Who are you predicting with picks 7 and 8 Mowman ?

Mate,
I would be happy with Reid & Tauru

But also think one of the so called 6 might still make it to us

 

[SteeleSaints]

Why Saints will still get midfield boost with top draft picks

Draft guru Cal Twomey says St Kilda's midfield stocks will still be enhanced during the draft, even if they miss out on the very top end talent

www.afl.com.au

Twomey and AFL media were obviously a bit taken aback by the Saints supporters reaction to his phantom, hence he has tried to back track and soften the information. Its a bit comical suggesting Tauru might also become a midfielder, and likened him to Charlie Curnow.

 

[stavro#4]

Just a small difference is list quality which allows them to swing for the fences.

People in here were saying Melbournes on the way down and they just burnt a bucket load of currency for pick 9.

People are bullish about what we have. Why not swing?

 

[Joffaboy]

Just a sec
Myself and a few others wanted to keep Battle because of this very scenario but were shouted down from the roof tops. were told that it wasn't a risk and an A grade mid was the only option

I said much earlier its always a risk losing a very good player ( last 3 years 2 top tens and a 3rd in the B&F) for magic beans

While I wanted to keep Battle, it's nor like we had a say in it. He told the players he was staying and next morning texted the club he was leaving.
Bassat confirmed that they thought he was staying and were happy and then he decided to leave.
Only solace was the compo of pick 8. So I don't think it was an either/or scenario.

Anyway this ringing of hands about Travaglia is a bit harsh on the kid by some on here. May not be exactly what the fanbase wants but sounds like what Lyon wants.

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[StCicatriz]

There's getting shit done & then there's mortgaging everything you've got on one (albeit promising) young player.

Melbourne & Carlton are both in very different circumstances to us.

If it blows up in their faces (like it has for us with just single picks), they're gonna feel the hurt big time.

in what way is it mortgaging everything you have on one player?

its a pittance. the cap is only going up, driven by the collective group of AFL players and the TV rights.

if we want to retain any player you just put them on long term deals and smooth it out/back end it. how do you think these clubs afford these guys on fat contracts when they're already paying other blokes on huge deals.

 

[StCicatriz]

While I wanted to keep Battle, it's nor like we had a say in it. He told the players he was staying and next morning texted the club he was leaving.
Bassat confirmed that they thought he was staying and were happy and then he decided to leave.
Only solace was the compo of pick 8. So I don't think it was an either/or scenario.

Anyway this ringing of hands about Travaglia is a bit harsh on the kid by some on here. May not be exactly what the fanbase wants but sounds like what Lyon wants.

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i suspect you're looking at the end part of the scenario where he had already agree to terms with hawthorn

the issue was our initial offer and how we initially approached the situation. along with how we re-signed him under Gags.

 

[snails13]

Spot the f on!! Was thinking the same. There’s a lot of rocket scientists in the football bubble.

And get paid very well for it

 

[StCicatriz]

I disagree that Ross isn't the right person for a rebuild. He's really turned the standards around in terms of how our players prepare and present but I just think he's making the same mistakes that Richo and Ratten made playing players that aren't taking us closer to a premiership.

This is the main fundamental flaw I see at present with RTB. Everything else is a tick from me.

i agree his coaching is bang on

my point is that its counter productive to rebuilding through the draft. if you want picks you kind of want to be shit for a period of time or have a bit of a yo-yo going on from year to year.

 

[Mowman]

Didn’t get the job done.

Heard people like him say we were all over pick 9 as well