2024 Draft Thread.

[Mat Mann]

Draft Period, November 20–21

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
• Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Trainor is not a CHB. He is a 3rd tall because he can't man an opponent and you'd probably prefer him to be leveraging his intercepting and offensive threat anyway due to his foot skills

The way I see it is:

Hofmann replaces Webster
Cole replaces Doug
Trainor replaces Battle
Wilkie remains

Hopefully Caminiti can fit in somehow

Mind you Wilkie is an excellent offensive player, but he never gets to do it becauase he's even better at manning an opponent.

 

[maanco]

Draft Wishlist (ignoring available talent):

Pick 7. Strike/Explosive Midfielder in the form of a Dustin Martin / Christian Petracca type, to break the lines with clean clearances and kick goals from stoppage.

Pick 8. Accumulator Midfielder in the form of Zac Butters / Lachie Neale /Zach Merrett type that spreads the ball to the outside players wingers/Half backs/Half Forwards.

Pick 32. Goal kicking pressure forward.

Pick ~41. Mature Age Ruck that can play alongside Marshall in the Best 22.

Pick 56. Adrain Cole St Kilda Match Bid. Pick 56 valued at 194pts - Minus Discount 98 points (10% of the value of Pick18) (unclear if accurate) Pick ~67 (originally pick 85 coming in approximately 15-21 picks for Bids on other NGAs/FS) is consumed and Generates Pick 71.

Pick 61 Lennox Hoffman St Kilda Match Bid with Pick 71.

Rookie Draft
Elwood Peckett goes undrafted and is automatically rookied to St Kilda.

St Kilda take 1 remaining selections to the Rookie Draft and Select the Sandringham Rookie.

Potential Trades.
Based on this Phantom Wish List, we could go to draft and make no trades and leave with a full draft hand in 2025.
If we make any trades, it will involve picks Pick 32 and/or Pick 47 to try and upgrade them without wasting any picks.
(Pick 47 moves up to approx. ~41)

Pick 8 and 41 and F3 to GWS for Picks 15 and 16 would be ideal.

NGA Bidding.
If Cole or Hoffman are bid on earlier but after picks 42 we would potentially value in our F3rd round pick in the 2025 draft.
If the GWS trade goes through we would lose the 4th and 5th round picks.

 

[TheJackal]

This is wild

1. Rich - Lalor
2. BL - Ashcroft
3. NM - Tauru
4. Carl - FOS
5. Adel - Langford
6. Melb - Smith
7. Rich - Smillie
8. GCS - Lombard
9. Ess - Kako
10. STK - Draper
11. STK - Lindsay
12. Melb - Armstrong
13. Rich - Travaglia
14. Rich - Shanahan
15. WCE - Allan
16. PA - J Whitlock
17. Freo - Berry
18. GWS - Hotton
19. GWS - Hannaford
20. WB - Reid

We also take sims at 34.

What is it with articles saying "this masthead".... if that's not the ultimate I'm a w@nker move for a journo I don't know what is.

Anyway, I can't quite believe this article made it past the work experience editors eyes. For a second I'll treat it seriously....

Draper at 7?! Omg that's huuuuge, Higgo - all is forgiven mate we got a bloody beauty! Am I doing it right?

Lindsay at 8 is a bit of a yeah, nah moment for me. Happy to move down to GWSs picks thanks. Reid & Hotton with Hynes and Trainor on the board still... that's absurd.

Back to reality though, I can't take it seriously when 'that masthead' doesn't even mention my boy Jack Ough in his top 40.

 

[akaifu]

What is it with articles saying "this masthead".... if that's not the ultimate I'm a w@nker move for a journo I don't know what is.

Anyway, I can't quite believe this article made it past the work experience editors eyes. For a second I'll treat it seriously....

Draper at 7?! Omg that's huuuuge, Higgo - all is forgiven mate we got a bloody beauty! Am I doing it right?

Lindsay at 8 is a bit of a yeah, nah moment for me. Happy to move down to GWSs picks thanks. Reid & Hotton with Hynes and Trainor on the board still... that's absurd.

Back to reality though, I can't take it seriously when 'that masthead' doesn't even mention my boy Jack Ough in his top 40.

Jack Ough isn't remotely a certainty for top 40

 

[St Neil]

lol how’s the form on the first bloke.

“Saints should take Murphy Reid and Harry Armstrong”

Turn off the microphone you absolute nuffy

Couldn’t agree more. That bloke was absolutely clueless.

King, Caminiti, Sharman, Owens, Phillipou, Marshall and Wood all pushing forward.

Another key forward is not an immediate priority with picks 7 & 8.


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[Tommy Wigs]

What is it with articles saying "this masthead".... if that's not the ultimate I'm a w@nker move for a journo I don't know what is.

Anyway, I can't quite believe this article made it past the work experience editors eyes. For a second I'll treat it seriously....

Draper at 7?! Omg that's huuuuge, Higgo - all is forgiven mate we got a bloody beauty! Am I doing it right?

Lindsay at 8 is a bit of a yeah, nah moment for me. Happy to move down to GWSs picks thanks. Reid & Hotton with Hynes and Trainor on the board still... that's absurd.

Back to reality though, I can't take it seriously when 'that masthead' doesn't even mention my boy Jack Ough in his top 40.

Nup. Higgins cost us not just 5… but 6 too.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

What is it with articles saying "this masthead".... if that's not the ultimate I'm a w@nker move for a journo I don't know what is.

Anyway, I can't quite believe this article made it past the work experience editors eyes. For a second I'll treat it seriously....

Draper at 7?! Omg that's huuuuge, Higgo - all is forgiven mate we got a bloody beauty! Am I doing it right?

Lindsay at 8 is a bit of a yeah, nah moment for me. Happy to move down to GWSs picks thanks. Reid & Hotton with Hynes and Trainor on the board still... that's absurd.

Back to reality though, I can't take it seriously when 'that masthead' doesn't even mention my boy Jack Ough in his top 40.

Agree on the masthead thing, shites me. But he seems to have pretty decent mail. It’s still a fair way out, but probably a fair indication of our interest and we may very well not have a willing club to slide back. GWS is no certainty and our guys may have someone in mind that won’t get that far.

 

[stavro#4]

Agree on the masthead thing, shites me. But he seems to have pretty decent mail. It’s still a fair way out, but probably a fair indication of our interest and we may very well not have a willing club to slide back. GWS is no certainty and our guys may have someone in mind that won’t get that far.

Does he get decent mail? Because I’d be over the moon not trading up and landing Draper.

 

[joydivision22]

What is it with articles saying "this masthead".... if that's not the ultimate I'm a w@nker move for a journo I don't know what is.

Anyway, I can't quite believe this article made it past the work experience editors eyes. For a second I'll treat it seriously....

Draper at 7?! Omg that's huuuuge, Higgo - all is forgiven mate we got a bloody beauty! Am I doing it right?

Lindsay at 8 is a bit of a yeah, nah moment for me. Happy to move down to GWSs picks thanks. Reid & Hotton with Hynes and Trainor on the board still... that's absurd.

Back to reality though, I can't take it seriously when 'that masthead' doesn't even mention my boy Jack Ough in his top 40.

Every time my eyes see it, I want to strangle someone. Its the same as "as I said in my previous email".

 

[Saints4ever]

There’s no way we’re getting Draper.

 

[Premium]

Does he get decent mail? Because I’d be over the moon not trading up and landing Draper.

Would love to be able to get Draper , but we would be lucky to get him.

 

[Premium]

Couldn’t agree more. That bloke was absolutely clueless.

King, Caminiti, Sharman, Owens, Phillipou, Marshall and Wood all pushing forward.

Another key forward is not an immediate priority with picks 7 & 8.


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We also have Keller who could be anything.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

What is it with articles saying "this masthead".... if that's not the ultimate I'm a w@nker move for a journo I don't know what is.

Anyway, I can't quite believe this article made it past the work experience editors eyes. For a second I'll treat it seriously....

Draper at 7?! Omg that's huuuuge, Higgo - all is forgiven mate we got a bloody beauty! Am I doing it right?

Lindsay at 8 is a bit of a yeah, nah moment for me. Happy to move down to GWSs picks thanks. Reid & Hotton with Hynes and Trainor on the board still... that's absurd.

Back to reality though, I can't take it seriously when 'that masthead' doesn't even mention my boy Jack Ough in his top 40.

its easy to sit here and say Lidsay yeah nah, but until a couple of years have past we don't know if he could be the Patrick Cripps of the season. ( not saying like Patrick, saying he could be much better than his current rating).
Lets hope our new list manage knows his stuff, because its the year for a good call.

 

[Saints4ever]

I really can’t see how we land any of
Lalor
Jagger
Finn
Draper
Langford
Smillie

 

[Linton Street Saint]

Every time my eyes see it, I want to strangle someone. Its the same as "as I said in my previous email".

If you have a better way to say, ' did you even f**king read my previous email you incompetent wage thief ? ' I'm all ears.

I would have ALOT of use for it in the workplace.

 

[Linton Street Saint]

I really can’t see how we land any of
Lalor
Jagger
Finn
Draper
Langford
Smillie

Unless a trade occurs it's very real possibility we don't but we got a huge culture defining win and as the pundits like to say on here pick order isn't a guarantee of talent.

 

[TheJackal]

Jack Ough isn't remotely a certainty for top 40

Wash your mouth out

 

[akaifu]

I really can’t see how we land any of
Lalor
Jagger
Finn
Draper
Langford
Smillie

You've listed 6 names. We have pick 7

We'd have to be extremely stiff to miss out on all. But even then, we can just take Tauru and Allan which isn't a terrible result. Or even split 8 for 15+16 for midfielders Hotton and Hynes (Hotton being the potential top 5 quality pick, Hynes being a guy with upside given he was played out of position all year)

Tauru Hotton Hynes as a worst case scenario is not a bad return

 

[Linton Street Saint]

You've listed 6 names. We have pick 7

We'd have to be extremely stiff to miss out on all. But even then, we can just take Tauru and Allan which isn't a terrible result. Or even split 8 for 15+16 for midfielders Hotton and Hynes (Hotton being the potential top 5 quality pick, Hynes being a guy with upside given he was played out of position all year)

Tauru Hotton Hynes as a worst case scenario is not a bad return

There is less than zero chance we take Hotton the same month we de-listed his brother. Put your house on it.

 

[Saints4ever]

You've listed 6 names. We have pick 7

We'd have to be extremely stiff to miss out on all. But even then, we can just take Tauru and Allan which isn't a terrible result. Or even split 8 for 15+16 for midfielders Hotton and Hynes (Hotton being the potential top 5 quality pick, Hynes being a guy with upside given he was played out of position all year)

Tauru Hotton Hynes as a worst case scenario is not a bad return

If North trade down they take Tauru 100%.
In this case I’d say we get either Langford or Smillie.
We really are relying on North taking Tauru

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Does he get decent mail? Because I’d be over the moon not trading up and landing Draper.

My understanding is that he does. The big caveat is that no club will have fully decided. At least IMO. Let alone all of the permutations that go with different selections prior causing all sorts of later variations. So Draper seems like a pipe dream. As long as there is one of him, Smith, Langford or Smillie, then that’s a good result.

It’s at least interesting for some indication on who likes who.

It would be interesting to go back and look at early intel from him and others in 2023

 

[akaifu]

There is less than zero chance we take Hotton the same month we de-listed his brother. Put your house on it.

Point was we can still make good out of a bad situation, whether its Hotton or not

 

[Pou Steele]

What is it with articles saying "this masthead".... if that's not the ultimate I'm a w@nker move for a journo I don't know what is..

They cant spell DlCK properly

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I really can’t see how we land any of
Lalor
Jagger
Finn
Draper
Langford
Smillie

So you're saying its absolutely certain no-one else goes top 7?

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Nup. Higgins cost us not just 5… but 6 too.

We had pick 7. The AFL gave us pick 8 for Battle and copped ridicule/abuse from all sides, including the media.

If Higgins misses and we end up with pick 5 there’s no guarantee the AFL pony up with pick 6 for Battle. They probably find it easier to just say end of first round.

We’ll never know so let’s not hang the Saints loving little man who gave us a magnificent end of season win over the Blues.