2024 Draft Thread.

[Mat Mann]

Draft Period, November 20–21

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
• Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm

 

[Mighty_sainter]

I suggest you Re listen to gettable.


“I just don’t see him getting to Stkilda at pick 7”

Also said in another snippet of gettable we wouldn’t call his name out quick enough if he got there all be it slim chance. He is genuinely guessing until he gets intel from clubs

 

[Mighty_sainter]

Bonar straight up couldn’t play I was so against drafting him. Tauru on the other hand looks a real talent.

I agree he looks naturally gifted but as I said, he’s had a lot of games where he did absolutely nothing and you’d like to see games especially in the top 10 where he’s just ripped apart consistently. The games he did play well in were towards the back end of the year so did show considerable improvement

 

[CursingFijian]

Can't wait for us to split pick 8 and then trade 16 to Essendon and let them back in.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Tauru scares me. I rate him but I don’t rate him that highly, he reminds me of aiden bonar a few years ago and I really didn’t want him that year either. He’s clearly highly talented but you also want to see some sort of high production from someone that high up in the draft. Had plenty of games where he did absolutely nothing (averaged 6 disposals across the champs) he also could be anything tho so I would back our recruiters in if we took him that high: I would prefer others

Can’t remember Bonar having a highlights reel anything close to the Viking.

He’s not a ball winning midfielder so I don’t get your comment re high production.


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[Joffaboy]

Difference is Phillipou was considered part of the top group. Ollie Hollands was where tier 2 started

Completely different scenario

No it's not. I would also say he is going better than MacKenzie taken at 7 as well, Clark at 8 and Gibney at 9 as well.
Cayman, Ashcroft, Sheezel and Wardlaw have probably shown more, but not by much.
If you are saying Tsatsas, Clark, MacKenzie and Gibney were all tier 1 it proves my point.
Anyway if we got Tauru he has been touted top 5, and Reid is just bagged by some for their ego's. I have been keen on Reid since the champs and nothing has changed my mind.

Convenient for your argument Holland was selected 11 in 2022.



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[StCicatriz]

Didn't someone on here have an early line on McGovern? Or was that on saintsational? I forget now, getting old.

that was me.

 

[stavro#4]

Also said in another snippet of gettable we wouldn’t call his name out quick enough if he got there all be it slim chance. He is genuinely guessing until he gets intel from clubs

Yes, that was in reference to a dream hypothetical of IF he was there at 7.

He was categoric in his belief that he doesn’t believe we even get a shot at Jagga in any of his scenarios across this weeks and last weeks gettable.

He thinks if a Mid falls to us it’s one of;

Smillie Langford or Draper

 

[stavro#4]

Gee I was disappointed to get Phillipou at 10 instead of Tsatsas at 5.
Why didn't we lose more games that season to land that game changer?

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With respect.

We picked 10th that year and were always just going to be taking the left over top prospect and we had minimal currency to move up.

We are picking 7 with 6 gun mids available and unless Tauru Armstrong or Reid go before us.

We miss out.

 

[jimmytigs]

The trade I'd be trying to get done if I was trading out pick 8 would be this one with GWS.

Out: 8, 32, F1 (StK)
In: 15, 16, 21, F1 (GWS).

I noticed that GWS have Adelaide's second rounder again this year, I wonder if that's of interest to us instead of the GWS F1 to get the deal over the line?

i do like that & i wonder if both teams can go to richmond & trade their f1 to them for one of their later first rounders this year?though with 4 picks in the bank we may not want to,but gws may want to & assuming our pick is juicier than theirs to richmond this swap might well get it done

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Revised - If North do not draft Tauru.

1. Pick 7 - Bo Allan (regardless of Tauru is there or not)
2. Pick 8 bid on Lombard. Fold Coast parasites will match which gives us more time to work on a pick split, especially if Tauru is still on the board.
3. Split Pick 9 with GWS for 15 (Tobie Travaglia) and 16 (Murphy Reid) or Select Tauru at Pick 9.

Travaglia 1% chance is my guess.

Between 8 and 14 (both inclusive), I suspect Armstrong and Travaglia are certain to go. At least one more tall - Shanahan or Whitlock, possibly both at a stretch. 1 small forward given Port and Freo’ needs - Berry or Hotton, again possibly both. That’s 4. Lindsay, Reid, Allan and the other two above that don’t get taken. Quite possible one of those mids gets through.

If we still had 32, I’d be tempted to take our tall there in that good range and take two of those guys if they do miraculously get through. Otherwise I’m a fan of Trainor. Some risk, but he’s at a discount too.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

In Gettable he said it’s unlikely Smillie would get through 7+8 - but it could happen.

You would imagine all hell has broken loose if that occurs with respect to the expected draft order.

Do we like Smillie or is it just assume because he’s in that so called first tier?

 

[stavro#4]

Do we like Smillie or is it just assume because he’s in that so called first tier?

It was reported We loved his interview during the combine.

I can’t see us passing on him if he is at 7/8.

If we love Allan because he has the right attributes then Smillie would be the exact same thing but more of a blue chip stock

 

[stavro#4]

Travaglia 1% chance is my guess.

Between 8 and 14 (both inclusive), I suspect Armstrong and Travaglia are certain to go. At least one more tall - Shanahan or Whitlock, possibly both at a stretch. 1 small forward given Port and Freo’ needs - Berry or Hotton, again possibly both. That’s 4. Lindsay, Reid, Allan and the other two above that don’t get taken. Quite possible one of those mids gets through.

If we still had 32, I’d be tempted to take our tall there in that good range and take two of those guys if they do miraculously get through. Otherwise I’m a fan of Trainor. Some risk, but he’s at a discount too.

Allan/Tauru Travaglia Armstrong Whitlock Berry all certainties for me

That means we need 2 more to go and still on the board: Trainor Lindsay Reid Hotton Whitlock Shanahan Dattoli Hynes

 

[GYoung]

In this mock draft
8 Murphy Reid
10 Josh Smillie
33 James Barret
41 Adrian Cole
61 Blake Laidler
83 Harry Boyd

 

[beside the seaside]

With respect.

We picked 10th that year and were always just going to be taking the left over top prospect and we had minimal currency to move up.

We are picking 7 with 6 gun mids available and unless Tauru Armstrong or Reid go before us.

We miss out.

It seems like a clear top 6 mids but it just changes so quickly. Look how much it's changed throughout the year. Look how quickly every draft changes in terms of where players would have gone.

It will fall how it falls, worst case we get Tauru who looks like an unbelievable prospect and can pair him with a mid with very nice attributes like Reid or Lindsay (who may end up the pick of the mids, that's how much it can change).

 

[Mighty_sainter]

Can’t remember Bonar having a highlights reel anything close to the Viking.

He’s not a ball winning midfielder so I don’t get your comment re high production.


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how don’t you get it? He’s had a very inconsistent year and you’re picking him purely on speculation not output: for example he averaged 6 disposals across the champs. He hasn’t consistently put games together where he has dominated? Good prospect but top 10 is too high for me imo

 

[BrutThough]

Difference is Phillipou was considered part of the top group. Ollie Hollands was where tier 2 started

Completely different scenario

Hollands is tracking just as well as that years 'top group' pre draft.

I'm sure Carlton are glad they didn't lose games so they could get a Tsatas instead.

 

[Ads734]

I personally feel like the club is in very capable hands right now. The messaging over the last 2 years has been consistent with my own thoughts.

The team involved now is vastly different from that of the mistake ridden past that we've all rehashed over and over again.

Almost every week Ross speaks about our lack of midfield craft, would be astounded if we don't pick up at least 1 genuine mid gun if not 2

All except for SOS as lost manager imo. I don’t trust him or his body of work at Blue or Giants. I think he essentially had one lucky/good year at the blues in 2015.

 

[St Kilda Death]

Difference is Phillipou was considered part of the top group. Ollie Hollands was where tier 2 started

Completely different scenario

Nah.

Ashcroft, wardlaw were always top 2.

Tsatas and sheezel were held next tier.
Rated 3-5 all year.

McKenzie, Clark, we’re always there about 5-10

Philipou, Humphrey, ginbey were always next tier.
Philipou was more rated around where Allan is now only whispers of Essendon jumping for him in November.
The other 2 rose from nowhere early into the 5-10 range late. Ginbey real late riser.

 

[SteeleSaints]

I just watched half a game of the SANFL final between Norwood & Centrals to see what Harry Boyd looks like. He plays like a younger Tom Campbell without a leap or a much slower Lloyd Meek without the marking. At that level he does dominate hitouts and clearances through shear strength, but the clearances consist of a scrubby kick forward eg his poor disposal efficiency. His handballing in close is good, but when the ball is in dispute on the ground he 'sea gulls' walking around bent over and is not interesting in getting involved ala Trent Knobel. His over head contested marking is below average for a guy his size.

His SANFL stats look very good, but he is a dinosaur and he would make Max Heath and Cordy look like Usain Bolt in any running drills. If Harry Boyd is the best back up option out there we are in serious trouble. Obviously he won the Magarey Medal because he dominates the centre bounces, but he is a HUGE DO NOT WANT from me!

Long term we would be much better served taking a young mobile ruckman (Sims) at the draft and backing in Heath to step up.

Ps Dyson Sharp 17yo also played in the game he is a dead set clone of Josh Smillie only more combatitive.

 

[Linton Street Saint]

Gee I was disappointed to get Phillipou at 10 instead of Tsatsas at 5.
Why didn't we lose more games that season to land that game changer?

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Enough with this bullshit rehtoric, that facts are that this draft there is widely accepted cream of the crop when it comes to midfielders that get numbered from 1-6. We beyond desperately need elite AA level midfielders to be able to compete and won't get access to this level of talent for at least 3-5 years even if we were to add to our grand collection of wooden spoons.

Surely you can understand peoples frustration and lamenting that Melbourne of all teams leap frogged us an now for the first time in almost a decade getting access to that rank of talent we seem destined to miss out by one selection and have to take a greater gamble on not as highly regarded talent.

It really isn't rocket science. I get it, it is what it is now and nothing is guaranteed but I can definitely understand why people are upset by it.

 

[Hayes4PM]

Those Richmond chuds better not take Smillie, he's basically already on our list in my brain.

 

[BrutThough]

If we had pick 5 instead of pick 7, we'd be complaining about how there is actually a clear top 3-4 mids available and we screwed up by winning any games at all this year.

That's just what this place does.

 

[Banger9798]

I'd be pretty happy with Draper I rekon!

The Drapist !

 

[beside the seaside]

Enough with this bullshit rehtoric, that facts are that this draft there is widely accepted cream of the crop when it comes to midfielders that get numbered from 1-6. We beyond desperately need elite AA level midfielders to be able to compete and won't get access to this level of talent for at least 3-5 years even if we were to add to our grand collection of wooden spoons.

Surely you can understand peoples frustration and lamenting that Melbourne of all teams leap frogged us an now for the first time in almost a decade getting access to that rank of talent we seem destined to miss out by one selection and have to take a greater gamble on not as highly regarded talent.

It really isn't rocket science. I get it, it is what it is now and nothing is guaranteed but I can definitely understand why people are upset by it.

Lament it in a few years if it turns out that the top six are the clear best from the draft but at this stage it's utterly pointless.