2024 Draft Thread.

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🎯 Draft Period, November 20–21
  • Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
  • Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
  • Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
  • Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
  • List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
  • Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
  • Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm
 
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Apparently Fremantle will try to get into top 10 calculations to get Bo Allan.
So Pick 8 will be in demand
Dockers will try to get in front of Richmond's Pick 10 to grab him.
So the Richmond guy on the forum may be correct in regards to a trade with them
Fremantle will only likely offer 14 & 30 and won't include F1 as they are hoping it's used on Warner next year .
If Tigers take Allan at P6 Josh Smillie likely to be available.
I doubt the Saints would do 14 & 30
 
So thought I would get my draft day thoughts down on paper. That way I can look back in a few years and see just just how wrong I was.

Looking across the last few weeks, it has pretty much been the same top 7 spoken about as the first 7 live selections. Assuming Smith, FOS and Lalor go top 3, I am super happy with any of Draper, Smillie, Langford or Tauru. Obviously Langford or Draper would be amazing for our midfield, and I will be doing cartwheels at 7 if one of those 2 slide. But I am also getting increasingly excited for Tauru. There are a couple of videos where he looks like Rooey MK2. Hands appear excellent. Late birthday and late riser. Seems like one of these types explodes into a superstar every year. Very happy to walk away with that.

Inevitably there will be talk in a few years about why didn’t we trade up to take mid x. The first option to do this was for 3. But we missed the boat there, and Carlton jumped us. Assuming we offered 8+F1, here is where we realized how worthless futures are this year.

Second later option was to trade 7+8 to North for 2. But the incompetent morons paid 25 for Caleb Daniel. Would we have done 7+8 for 2 and 25? Who knows. But I would in an instant. Gives us something like FOS or Draper and maybe Trainor. But absolutely no way would we do 7+8 without another top 30 pick this year coming back. So that North brain explosion basically shut us out of guaranteeing ourselves one of the top 6 mids.

*If any of the North people are still lurking here, dear God you are easily triggered. And yes I am annoyed that one of the teams we would have to deal with in this situation wwas you or Essendon. Easily the two worst trading clubs in the AFL. After watching our own club f**k things up with regularity post-2010, trust us, we know what incompetent looks like. And that is you. See my above post if you want more detail. BTW, Parker is an excellent pickup. Brilliant player and leader. Perfect for your list. Paid good value. But in a super even draft and quality, you traded pick 25 for a 29yo reserves player who fights in the same weight class as a 15yo girl to play the easiest position on the field. Its almost triggering for us to watch how much that one move has hamstrung you (and now us) from getting what you actually need from the draft.

Moving on from the blue and white s**tshow, pick 8 is where it gets really interesting. Assuming we take Tauru, obviously the midfield is our glaring weakness. So for me, I want Reid. Is that a reach? Maybe. But it is what we need, and he ticks a lot of boxes.

Based on the late mocks, and particularly Cal, instead it looks like we will take a HBF with the scope to go into the middle. Trav or Allen the two options. Trav the favorite. And here is where most of the board a collective moment Monday night. From what I can see, there where 3 reasons for this.

The first is our decade long trauma of picking flankers that might be mids one day. Makes us all instantly skeptical of the clubs ability to actually do this, and why many (myself included) are more comfortable with a pure mid like Reid.

The second and third reasons were specific to Cal’s mock. Firstly Cal said “worst case you will have a 200 game half-back.” The problem with this is our whole game plan is built around moving the ball from the back half, and we have 2 of the best HBF flankers out there in Sincs and NAS. The issue isn’t that we are already loaded there. The issue is that these are 2 of the best because they are ELITE kicks. Allan and Trav seem to do a lot right, but both look questionable kicks at best. We have watched sooo many players run the ball out of half back and break lines (think Gilbert / Savage for us or Saad / Hind for others), only to turn the ball over with regularity. Then watch the oppo walk in easy goals. It sucks. Had they said someone like Linsday at our pick, we would probably understand the logic. But enough of the questionable kicks, especially in the back half. Nope, nope, nope. Not how we play and not how any of us want to play.

The second issue with Cal’s mock specifically (and what the club might be thinking) was that the order of his picks made absolutely zero sense. Taking Tauru as the riser at 7 makes sense. We could then listen to offers for 8, as we are either reaching for a player that suits us, or picking a player that looks good but doesn’t suit us. However, if we take Trav first, we are then listening to offers for Tauru. He might hold more value, but that is also the reason I really really want him. If we ultimately miss out on the first 6 mids AND the most exciting tall with a huge ceiling, that is basically everyone's worst nightmare.

So yeah, I genuinely understand the melts. And to those responding with ‘trust the club,’ geez that’s a hard sell to a lot of us. Personally I am almost there after ripping out NAS, Pou and Wilson 3 drafts in a row, and then poaching Dalrymple. But I certainly understand those that have very limited faith.

So where does this leave me draft day?

Well trading up is out because North is the second worst run club in the AFL. Trading down by splitting 8 (and upgrading 32) for 2 picks (or even 3) between 10 and 25 appears unlikely based on the noise. However, if we take Tauru or a sliding mid, I think this would be hugely popular with the fanbase (myself included). There are a plethora of players here I like here from mids, (Reid, Hynes) to KPP (Shanahan or a Whitlock). But based on the rumors I am resigned to not getting this.

So far all the hundreds of pages of the last month, this leaves us with 7 and 8.

7 – Just keep it simple and take either a sliding mid, or Tauru. Happy days. If there is a curveball, then play it as it comes. But I am very happy with any of Draper, Langford, Smillie or Tauru here. 2 of them is the dream

8 – Earn your money Dalrymple. Assuming we aren’t splitting, then I want Reid. Lindsay I understand here too. Allan (and even less so Trav) is my least preferred option. Will of course jump on board if we pick one of these two. But not the flavor of player that I think we need!

Anyway that’s my utterly useless 2 cents. Happy draft day to all! Looking forward to the chaos on here.
Great summation…only thing I differ on is Travaglia’s kicking, he went at 82.5% kicking efficiency for Vic Country this year!
Last year won the B & F for Bendigo Pioneers as an under ager with Harley Reid playing for them!!
Kids a gun & has a lot of clubs that like him.
He may start off as a half back but when he puts on more size will be a terrific inside/outside mid.
 
Apparently Fremantle will try to get into top 10 calculations to get Bo Allan.
So Pick 8 will be in demand
Dockers will try to get in front of Richmond's Pick 10 to grab him.
So the Richmond guy on the forum may be correct in regards to a trade with them
Fremantle will only likely offer 14 & 30 and won't include F1 as they are hoping it's used on Warner next year .
If Tigers take Allan at P6 Josh Smillie likely to be available.
I doubt the Saints would do 14 & 30
Zero chance the saints would do that. Would need to be a future first in it. We are in a very good spot
 
It’s 2024.
Flankers are midfielders that start outside the circle at centre bounce.

Only 3 players can start centre bounce:
Steele, macrae…
Clark, Windgager, dow, Garcia, Jones, Carrol all fighting off Philipou for 3rd spot.

Sinclair, stocker and Wanganeen all capable of a run through.

Trav and Allan both have a good contested game. Both would be great additions to the team and add to our clearance game at stoppages if not centre bounce.
 

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I think we will trade 8, and buy another pick using next years F1.

Fremantle look the most likely given the amount of young talent they’ve bought in over the last 5 years and their appetite to trade for Chad Warner next year.
 
Great summation…only thing I differ on is Travaglia’s kicking, he went at 82.5% kicking efficiency for Vic Country this year!
Last year won the B & F for Bendigo Pioneers as an under ager with Harley Reid playing for them!!
Kids a gun & has a lot of clubs that like him.
He may start off as a half back but when he puts on more size will be a terrific inside/outside mid.
Mate I am just an amateur going off highlights here, so I will 100% defer to those that know more.

But when Stav posted a bunch of Trav videos a few pages back that solidified my thoughts. Check out his game vs SA. Handballing is genuinely elite (especially at speed), and maybe gives me some hope he could be a mid (maybe). I understand what people see, and why he will be picked inside the top 15.

But watch that 5 minutes of kicking. A lot of it with time and space off half back (and not at the coalface). That's got me nervous
 
Mate I am just an amateur going off highlights here, so I will 100% defer to those that know more.

But when Stav posted a bunch of Trav videos a few pages back that solidified my thoughts. Check out his game vs SA. Handballing is genuinely elite (especially at speed), and maybe gives me some hope he could be a mid (maybe). I understand what people see, and why he will be picked inside the top 15,

But watch that 5 minutes of kicking. A lot of it with time and space off half back (and not at the coalface). Thats got me nervous
He looks great in space. He looks great as an intercept back.

His kicking wasn’t great and a lot of his midfield stuff was very rushed.

Moves around like a leopard however.
 
Who’s bringing the lube?
Diddy GIF by BET Awards
 

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