Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

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Look at the bright side. Least there isn’t calls to try to get the #1 pick this year…

If we trade our first pick this year, for a player that will help us make and win finals I’m all for it. If the club decides to keep it and keep investing in youth, I’m also for it. The season has just started. People need to relax and wait and see how the season plays out first.
Seems like #3 atm. We’re better than north/west coast normally. Our best is better than a lot of teams but our worst is much worse.
 
Agreed, we need to hit the draft hard one more time and get a top 3 pick this year. Our highest pick so far has been 5 and the top 3 are where you find your jamarras, JHFs, Walshes, Daicoses who are elite players.
we could really do with a hall similar to rozee and butters! Might need brave trading but could set up the club for 10 years
 
Honestly - if this were true, we wouldn’t be 0-4.

We are on the right track but this is a bit OTT.
well I suppose career best for Ramma still isn't a lot (given how early in career he is)
i'm not sold that cmac or moore are in career best (moore is still solid but think his 2022 form was better)
I don't know enough about Chol at other clubs to say, but hes been more than serviceable with us
 

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I think King is way off here in that there's no way we're gonna try to keep bottoming out the next 3-4 years to get better draft picks.

But it does raise the discussion of who our next absolute jets of the competition are going to be. The match-winners that will compete with the likes of JHF, Reid, Daicos, Ashcroft, Sheezel etc in the years ahead. Do we have them on the list? I'm most bullish on Weddle and Wiz, but I don't think we'll really know for a couple of years.

 
I think King is way off here in that there's no way we're gonna try to keep bottoming out the next 3-4 years to get better draft picks.

But it does raise the discussion of who our next absolute jets of the competition are going to be. The match-winners that will compete with the likes of JHF, Reid, Daicos, Ashcroft, Sheezel etc in the years ahead. Do we have them on the list? I'm most bullish on Weddle and Wiz, but I don't think we'll really know for a couple of years.


We know what we have to do.
 
I think and hope what we are doing is building a champion team rather than a team of champions. Give me a team that has the best bottom 6 going around than having the best individual player in the comp! That’s the Hawthorn way.
I think we are well on course for not having a team of champions
 
I think King is way off here in that there's no way we're gonna try to keep bottoming out the next 3-4 years to get better draft picks.

But it does raise the discussion of who our next absolute jets of the competition are going to be. The match-winners that will compete with the likes of JHF, Reid, Daicos, Ashcroft, Sheezel etc in the years ahead. Do we have them on the list? I'm most bullish on Weddle and Wiz, but I don't think we'll really know for a couple of years.


I think the hawktalk pod guys nailed the response.


 
I think King is way off here in that there's no way we're gonna try to keep bottoming out the next 3-4 years to get better draft picks.

But it does raise the discussion of who our next absolute jets of the competition are going to be. The match-winners that will compete with the likes of JHF, Reid, Daicos, Ashcroft, Sheezel etc in the years ahead. Do we have them on the list? I'm most bullish on Weddle and Wiz, but I don't think we'll really know for a couple of years.



Interesting that you included Sheezel and Reid as 'match-winners' considering their current sides fortunes.

I've also seen enough of Jai Newcombe playing big games at the moment it's most required to know he deserves to be in that discussion.

Day, Newcombe, Watson and Weddle are the ones we'd be expecting to fit that bill to varying degrees.
 

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During the threepeat recall Clarko and the club talking about having 12 A graders on the list. Heck when we adjusted our strategy and reliance on Buddy after the GF loss and then lost him to Swans who was arguably the best player in the comp at the time …….. our team/forward line got better! Remember footy is a team sport not an individual one.
 
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I think King is way off here in that there's no way we're gonna try to keep bottoming out the next 3-4 years to get better draft picks.

But it does raise the discussion of who our next absolute jets of the competition are going to be. The match-winners that will compete with the likes of JHF, Reid, Daicos, Ashcroft, Sheezel etc in the years ahead. Do we have them on the list? I'm most bullish on Weddle and Wiz, but I don't think we'll really know for a couple of years.



I think we will have a pretty good picture by the end of the season. I believe we have one o the best mids in the competition in Newcombe. Just needs to play consistently at a high level. Then we have players around him to form the nucleus of a high performance midfield. Looking at the youngsters, McKenzie and Ward look very likely. I want to see more of the Ward that played on Sunday. Then there is Huswaite. Weddle, Watson and Ramsden was good and looks like he might develop faster playing AFL rather than VFL. My opinion. The key is the team needs to start performing and showing what it can do in order to attract the missing pieces which may not be as great as we may perceive. Much improved performance like Sunday can change how we think about it. Players just need to keep working hard and harder.
 
Just saw that zurhaar is a free agent and I’m already furious at the first round compo the shinbeggars will inevitably receive.
They'll just draft another midfielder.
Their team is on track to be about 14 mids , a few back and forward pockets a ruck and Larkey .
 
There is no objectivity within the accredited former player media people as if there was, and not another agenda, they'd have called out The Shinbeggars for trading away the only KPD they had knowing they'd be trading in either Reid (if they received pick 1 from WCE) or Mckercher/Duursma/Curtain etc by keeping No. 2 and 3 and also not bidding on Walters (at No. 2 like even blind Freddy would have).
It's a bit of a rort that still no-one has made mention of it after looking at how North is conceding goals these first 4 rounds
Last year, we were tanking and there was a serious pile on.
This year, crickets, move along, nothing to see here.
 
Would love the hawks to get Sam Taylor from GWS. I know would be hard because they are in their premiership window, but hawks could offer him significant $ to bring him over. He’d be my number 1 target. Next would be McCluggage.


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Would love the hawks to get Sam Taylor from GWS. I know would be hard because they are in their premiership window, but hawks could offer him significant $ to bring him over. He’d be my number 1 target. Next would be McCluggage.


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Word on the street is that we have. Was posted a few pages back that we are ‘trying to make him the highest paid player ever’ I believe.
 
Interesting that you included Sheezel and Reid as 'match-winners' considering their current sides fortunes.

I've also seen enough of Jai Newcombe playing big games at the moment it's most required to know he deserves to be in that discussion.

Day, Newcombe, Watson and Weddle are the ones we'd be expecting to fit that bill to varying degrees.

Sheezel is absolutely brilliant. Has there ever been a player who has had a more impressive debut season?

Reid looks like he will become the generational player everyone thought he would be, though it's early days of course.

They are obviously projecting with dubbing them as "match winners" though, but IMO they look like they have the equivalent talent of guys like Daicos, Petracca, etc. It's hardly their fault the rest of their sides are either too young (in North's case) and not good enough.

I think if Day was not injured this season he'd be held in similar regard. Newcombe has shown he can be a real driving force in the side too.
 
Sheezel is absolutely brilliant. Has there ever been a player who has had a more impressive debut season?

Reid looks like he will become the generational player everyone thought he would be, though it's early days of course.

They are obviously projecting with dubbing them as "match winners" though, but IMO they look like they have the equivalent talent of guys like Daicos, Petracca, etc. It's hardly their fault the rest of their sides are either too young (in North's case) and not good enough.

I think if Day was not injured this season he'd be held in similar regard. Newcombe has shown he can be a real driving force in the side too.
I’d move heaven and earth for Reid
 
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