Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

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I like the club's strategy of hitting the draft and supplementing with Free Agency. Hopefully we improve year on year and can draw a couple of bigger name free agents (King/Taylor/etc) to help us contend in 3-4 years
 
HawthornHawk said:
I like the club's strategy of hitting the draft and supplementing with Free Agency. Hopefully we improve year on year and can draw a couple of bigger name free agents (King/Taylor/etc) to help us contend in 3-4 years
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This is where 2017-2020 has killed us. We traded for B+ talent (and I'd probably put Mitchell in that category as well tbh) instead of genuine A graders and it hurt us. We still had a serviceable team, especially 17/18 and if we'd taken our medicine and accepted we'd be lower reaches of the 8/just outside we'd have had three/four first rounders coming through and being mentored by our threepeat legends.

Instead Clarko gambled and lost.
 

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We need to pull something out of the box be creative to compliment the quality young kids that we already have someone in a similar age bracket so they all come through together over the next decade. Throw big bucks with a long contract for a young kid something to good to refuse at Reid, Cadman etc of similar ilk while the club they are at currently are managing their cap space and can’t match or wants to come home …….. Port did it with JHF! It can be done.
 
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earthworms said:
We're talking about Day and Newcombe winning brownlows? Worpel has a legitimate chance this year. 2nd currently in champion data
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He's definitely in that form, but we need to win games or get closer if he's to get the amount of 2 and 3 votes to make a difference. An in form Newcombe will also compete with him for votes based on history.
 
Sam Mclure (arguably the media's biggest mouth breather) reporting that WCE are after Taylor, and that GWS are looking at a 6 year contract pushing 1.3 mil a year.

If we were looking to get him I'd imagine we'd have to be looking at 1.6+ for 6-8 years
 
rei154 said:
Sam Mclure (arguably the media's biggest mouth breather) reporting that WCE are after Taylor, and that GWS are looking at a 6 year contract pushing 1.3 mil a year.

If we were looking to get him I'd imagine we'd have to be looking at 1.6+ for 6-8 years
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More importantly there was absolutely no mention of us whatsoever. Hopefully we're lurking in the background with an open cheque book 😂

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Strapping Young Lad said:
How many players do the Giants already have on 6+ year contracts?

I guess Sam is able to be yet another Giants ambasador.
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There definitely needs to be more transparency around salary caps. Even if the names are redacted and the breakdown is just in the form of percentage of the salary cap per season.

There's only so many "backended" $1M+ per season contracts a club can afford to give out while also paying a fair, market rate to 40+ players on a list. It simply doesn't add up.
 
Platten44 said:
$16 mill over 8 years would make him think hard and long
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Would offer that in a heartbeat for him. If GWS offer him 1.3 mill over 8, then we trump that by 5.6 million over the 8 years. No way you can turn that down. Plus a massive Hawks fan growing up, gets to play at the G instead of that dump in Sydney. Girlfriend is from Melbourne aswell.
 
Strapping Young Lad said:
How many players do the Giants already have on 6+ year contracts?

I guess Sam is able to be yet another Giants ambasador.
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They did move on Taranto and Hopper so the question will not be if there'll be money to throw at Taylor but rather how much. As many have mentioned already if we want him then we just need to blow them right out of the water with a thumper offer he cannot refuse.
 

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From the Age today. Peter Ryan
How many of these free agents aged 25-27 would you offer five-year contracts?
Elliott Himmelberg (Adelaide)
Hugh McCluggage*, Jarrod Berry* (Brisbane Lions)
David Cuningham, Caleb Marchbank (Carlton)
Conor Nash, Harry Morrison, Blake Hardwick* (Hawthorn)
Andrew McGrath* (Essendon)
Jack Henry, Mark O’Connor, Brandan Parfitt, Tyson Stengle (Geelong)
Ben Ainsworth (Gold Coast)
Isaac Cumming, Harry Perryman (GWS)
Blake Hardwick, Conor Nash, Harry Morrison (Hawthorn)
Cam Zurhaar* (North Melbourne)
Jack Graham (Richmond)
Ollie Florent, Will Hayward* (Sydney Swans)
Liam Duggan (West Coast)
Tim English* (Western Bulldogs)
*restricted free agents

Fancy anyone? Anyone?
 
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From the Age today. Peter Ryan
How many of these free agents aged 25-27 would you offer five-year contracts?
Elliott Himmelberg (Adelaide)
Hugh McCluggage*, Jarrod Berry* (Brisbane Lions)
David Cuningham, Caleb Marchbank (Carlton)
Conor Nash, Harry Morrison, Blake Hardwick* (Hawthorn)
Andrew McGrath* (Essendon)
Jack Henry, Mark O’Connor, Brandan Parfitt, Tyson Stengle (Geelong)
Ben Ainsworth (Gold Coast)
Isaac Cumming, Harry Perryman (GWS)
Blake Hardwick, Conor Nash, Harry Morrison (Hawthorn)
Cam Zurhaar* (North Melbourne)
Jack Graham (Richmond)
Ollie Florent, Will Hayward* (Sydney Swans)
Liam Duggan (West Coast)
Tim English* (Western Bulldogs)
*restricted free agents

Fancy anyone? Anyone?
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English, McCluggage and Hardwick
 
Are we sure we want to offer Sam Taylor $16 million over 8 years? I would get that if it were Daicos, Conor rozee or Newcombe but that seems like a dangerous contract.
 
earthworms said:
Are we sure we want to offer Sam Taylor $16 million over 8 years? I would get that if it were Daicos, Conor rozee or Newcombe but that seems like a dangerous contract.
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Was listening to Gettable today and they said with the new EBA contracts are going to be like going from Home and Away tv show to Hollywood they are going to be that big a jump.


So if that’s the case the contract we have offered Taylor may not be that big as others will offer just as much.

They also think the 2024 draft at the moment looks like a super draft hopefully we don’t trade out our fist pick.

Also if it is it’s going to be hard to trade in using our 2025 pick to get another first round if we choose to go down this path.
 
mustang said:
Was listening to Gettable today and they said with the new EBA contracts are going to be like going from Home and Away tv show to Hollywood they are going to be that big a jump.


So if that’s the case the contract we have offered Taylor may not be that big as others will offer just as much.

They also think the 2024 draft at the moment looks like a super draft hopefully we don’t trade out our fist pick.

Also if it is it’s going to be hard to trade in using our 2025 pick to get another first round if we choose to go down this path.
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We would be stupid to trade our 2024 1st (looks like #3 which would compare to zane duursma last year). We might trade out our 2025 1st for Smith or to get another first this year which i personally wouldn't mind. If we could take in a bad contract from another team for a first round pick (like the Jack bowes trade a few years ago) it would really help our rebuild. Hardwick might leave which could potentially get us a compensation pick like North with McKay, not anything like #3 though. If contracts are increasing with the new tv deal we could afford to pay Sam Taylor a lot, good point.
 
earthworms said:
We would be stupid to trade our 2024 1st (looks like #3 which would compare to zane duursma last year). We might trade out our 2025 1st for Smith or to get another first this year which i personally wouldn't mind. If we could take in a bad contract from another team for a first round pick (like the Jack bowes trade a few years ago) it would really help our rebuild. Hardwick might leave which could potentially get us a compensation pick like North with McKay, not anything like #3 though. If contracts are increasing with the new deal we could pay Sam Taylor a lot, good point.
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Hardwick leaving? Doubtful.
 
Blackhawk42 said:
Interesting that you included Sheezel and Reid as 'match-winners' considering their current sides fortunes.

I've also seen enough of Jai Newcombe playing big games at the moment it's most required to know he deserves to be in that discussion.

Day, Newcombe, Watson and Weddle are the ones we'd be expecting to fit that bill to varying degrees.
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Match-winners, generational players, superstars of the comp, take your pick on the term. None of them are there yet, but they will be.

I mostly agree with you, we have some absolute future jets, but how many will go to the level of the absolute superstars of the game is still a worthy discussion. I think the club wants to attract a few more with FA and trade accordingly.
 
earthworms said:
We would be stupid to trade our 2024 1st (looks like #3 which would compare to zane duursma last year). We might trade out our 2025 1st for Smith or to get another first this year which i personally wouldn't mind. If we could take in a bad contract from another team for a first round pick (like the Jack bowes trade a few years ago) it would really help our rebuild. Hardwick might leave which could potentially get us a compensation pick like North with McKay, not anything like #3 though. If contracts are increasing with the new tv deal we could afford to pay Sam Taylor a lot, good point.
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If it is pick 3, and we’ve only got mids in the top 5, the club might decide we are better off trading that pick or splitting it or any number of options. I think it’s too early to contemplate in any case.
 
earthworms said:
We would be stupid to trade our 2024 1st (looks like #3 which would compare to zane duursma last year). We might trade out our 2025 1st for Smith or to get another first this year which i personally wouldn't mind. If we could take in a bad contract from another team for a first round pick (like the Jack bowes trade a few years ago) it would really help our rebuild. Hardwick might leave which could potentially get us a compensation pick like North with McKay, not anything like #3 though. If contracts are increasing with the new tv deal we could afford to pay Sam Taylor a lot, good point.
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Good luck finding a player of Hardwicks ability with a second round pick
 
Platten44 said:
$16 mill over 8 years would make him think hard and long
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I know he's good but that's a lot of money for one player.

I've seen what one of the best central defenders in the world did for Liverpool (and Oppo supporters thought they were crazy paying what they did for Van Dyk) so I'm not against building a team around him but still, it's a huge play with huge risks and a salary cap to consider. Maybe $12m over 8 years would get it done if GWS are only offering 6 years
 
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