Strapping Young Lad
Moderator
- Apr 19, 2006
- 100,986
- 253,704
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
- Other Teams
- Storm, Spurs, Socceroos
- Moderator
- #18,956
2024 Picks
2025 Picks
2025 Picks
Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread
- Thread starter TylerDurden
- Start date
- Tagged users None
- Status
- Oct 5, 2008
- 9,225
- 22,594
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
What are the following fringe (or soon to be fringe) players worth as direct draft pick swaps? Or better question what pick would make it worth us considering a trade?
DGB
Sam Frost
Finn MacGinness
Jai Serong
Ned Reeves
C Jiath
Seamus Mitchell
Sam Butler
Josh Ward
Cam McKenzie
DISCLAIMER: I’m not saying we should or will trade them so please no hysteria.
DGB
Sam Frost
Finn MacGinness
Jai Serong
Ned Reeves
C Jiath
Seamus Mitchell
Sam Butler
Josh Ward
Cam McKenzie
DISCLAIMER: I’m not saying we should or will trade them so please no hysteria.
- Nov 10, 2022
- 12,747
- 10,269
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
And certainly no salary cap issues yet
I would say something like the below but wouldn’t want to trade a lot of them, especially not Mackenzie
DGB - F4 / no value
Sam Frost - pick 30
Finn MacGinness - pick 27
Jai Serong - pick 35
Ned Reeves - pick 35
C Jiath - pick 27
Seamus Mitchell - pick 40
Sam Butler - F3
Josh Ward - pick 20
Cam McKenzie - pick 14
- Jun 17, 2019
- 8,041
- 19,958
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
- Thread starter
- #14,830
Ward and Mackenzie have the highest ceilings of that lot. Not even tradable for mine. Especially Mackenzie.
- Jun 17, 2019
- 8,041
- 19,958
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
Out of the list I think Finn is the only one you'd get fair value for, the rest youre selling at their lowest value.
Reckon those estimates are pretty close to the mark but Frosty might be worth a little better than a late second, if only because the Swans could see him as an even more crucial addition now. They will believe their window remains open, but given their performance in the GF will be desperate to shore up their KPD stocks. Value is only determined by the need of the buyer I guess so we might squeeze a little more out of them than we could have done last week if we were to do a trade.
Personally I think I'd value Finn ahead of CJ. He doesn't have the same aura as CJ, but I think he is more consistent and more durable.
Personally I think I'd value Finn ahead of CJ. He doesn't have the same aura as CJ, but I think he is more consistent and more durable.
Ashman23
Club Legend
- Oct 5, 2008
- 9,225
- 22,594
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
The question was really “what offer would get our list management team engaged and considering a trade?” not “what other clubs would value them out?”. So for example people have valued Seamus Mitchell at 40-50 and I wouldn’t even come close to trading him for that as I feel he has weapons and a huge upside. Personally I wouldn’t trade him for anything less than 20 so it would take a very eager club with a specific need (in this case speed off the back line) to get that done.
This is mine…
DGB - 50
Sam Frost - 30
Finn MacGinness - 30
Jai Serong - 25
Ned Reeves - 30
C Jiath - 15
Seamus Mitchell - 20
Sam Butler - 50
Josh Ward - 25
Cam McKenzie - 10
No need to trade anyone this year. Need to keep the culture that got us 13 out of 15 wins. Critical.
I agree he’s good by hand, that’s why I say he’s an inside midfielder. I pay attention to where the ball goes by foot, it is invariably a sky ball to no one’s advantage.. I genuinely like
What he brings to the team, but he’s not an outside player in a good team.
On iPhone using BigFooty.com mobile app
Ka Norkers
Team Captain
Mackenzie and Ward ain't going anywhere at the ridiculous valuations put up here. Both were top 10 picks and should remain so.
the Port Adelaide loss underlined Frostie's importance to the side.
the Port Adelaide loss underlined Frostie's importance to the side.
Agreed. It’s a pointless exercise with guys like them because IMO those 2 are like you’ve just bought a new sports car that you’ve only just driven. To another buyer they’re a used car but to us they they’re still a valuable new toy.
Mackenzie is going to be the mid that takes off some of the creative pressure from Day. He’s the guy come the start of next season where everyone goes wow the Hawks have another gem.
How long till the draft MrPremiership?
Ka Norkers
Team Captain
whilst every finals team can claim what if's, tbh if we had a fully fit Day and Frost, we would have been playing in a grand final against a team that we have had little trouble with recently. Whatever the result, the game would have been a whole lot better than watching those poseurs and fraudsters from Sydney.
- Mar 21, 2017
- 5,332
- 13,751
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
- Other Teams
- BayernMunchen
Mackenzie is ungettable . Ward wouldn't move sleepy mark out of his bed for anything under top ten pick. But, stranger things have happened. There will be at least two gone during trade week but not sure which two .
Newmo89
Club Legend
- Jul 27, 2021
- 1,546
- 15,756
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
Not sure why Ward and Mackenzie are being mentioned - neither will be traded. Both have excellent ceilings and will be crucial components of our midfield for a very long time. Also, both are viewed incredibly highly by the coaching staff at Hawthorn.
Reckon that we will see Frosty staying at Hawthorn, despite the interest from elsewhere.
Are there fringe players who have interest from other clubs? Absolutely. Players only get one chance at a career that can end in an instant and if they decide to leave for better opportunities or a better pay day that sets up their future, you couldn’t begrudge them of that.
Reckon that we will see Frosty staying at Hawthorn, despite the interest from elsewhere.
Are there fringe players who have interest from other clubs? Absolutely. Players only get one chance at a career that can end in an instant and if they decide to leave for better opportunities or a better pay day that sets up their future, you couldn’t begrudge them of that.
hawkinoz
Club Legend
- Nov 6, 2022
- 1,596
- 3,647
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
Good thought experiment
If I am the list manager for Hawks, then
DGB - 50
Sam Frost - 27
Finn MacGinness - 27
Jai Serong - 23
Ned Reeves - 27
C Jiath - 20
Seamus Mitchell - 25
Sam Butler - 40
Josh Ward - 12
Cam McKenzie - 5
Hustwaite - 20
If another club shows interest, I will start chat with wanting picks a few places above this and then may settle here or few places below based on how trades fall.
halfback dasher
Norm Smith Medallist
Veteran
Hawthorn Hawks - Lowden, Anderson, Woodward Player Sponsor 2014
Hawthorn Hawks - Box Hill 2013 Sponsor
Hawthorn Hawks - Box Hill 2012
Hawthorn Hawks - Lowden, Anderson, Woodward Player Sponsor 2013
Hawthorn Hawks - Smith and Savage 2011 Player Sponsor
Hawthorn Hawks - Smith and Savage 2012 Player Sponsor
Hawthorn Hawks - Box Hill 2011 Sponsor
Could not disagree more
- Nov 10, 2022
- 12,747
- 10,269
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
For sure each of those players is worth more to us. Need to go into 2025 as strong as possible, give it a shake
Ned Ryerson
Future Captain
CaptainWorpedo
Premiership Player
- Feb 15, 2021
- 3,322
- 7,702
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
I totally agree!
I’d only trade our fringe players if said player makes request and trade value is above average. Serong and Maginness are keeps and in our best 25, injury could see them play a fair portion of the season.
Mercy Seat
Norm Smith Medallist
You risk upsetting that culture though when you hold players who want to leave.
Part of being a good culture is recognising when a player has an opportunity to get regular game time and more security, and facilitating a trade as long as it works for both parties. We’ve never been a club to hold players, particularly fringe players, against their will.
The Golden Glenferrie
Norm Smith Medallist
Agree, but Finn is terrible. Can't kick. Fans have spoken. Time to go
- Status
Similar threads
