Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

[hawkinoz]

this is only good if we intend to keep the Blues F1 and are punting they fall down.

then our F1 and a F2 will be given for Barass.

I felt like given blues desperation for Houston, we should have tried to get their pick 34 as well & talk up how they will be Top 4 in 2025. But done is done.

Blues now have 12+14 for Houston+???

 

[yeahmate]

now we offer our F1 and Carlton's F2 for barass and hang on to carlton's f1?

 

[Lickmesocks]

Eagles are going to offer us this years second pick for Hawks future two first round picks

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

 

[Cannyman]

Tom barass for 3 2nd rounders and Harley Reid out the door with 4 first rounders next year.

I'm bored.

 

[DogDaySonny]

So if Carlton win the flag next season we are trading
2024 Pick 14 for
2025 pick 18 and 37 ish?

At best Carlton will be runners up next season.

 

[Kuuz]

Love it.

Everyone highly rates this years draft over next year, so if you're bold, you can squeeze clubs for more value on future picks which will have currency regardless of year. We have plenty of youth, so missing out on first round this year is no biggie.

I also love that we're rating Carlton to suck

Plus tells Weagles to hurry up or miss their chance on Baker. We have Battle, so our defence is solid regardless. Just stops their posturing nonsense.

 

[HR Roughnstuf]

WC want Barrass gone, but Hawks will only pay a fair price.

WC will blink or get nothing

 

[Hawkers Hero]

Tom barass for 3 2nd rounders and Harley Reid out the door with 4 first rounders next year.

I'm bored.

Surely we just send both of Carltons picks to West Coast for Barrass? They get their 1st and 2nd for him and they just send Carltons F1 to Richmond for Baker. We still only pay Pick 14 and have a full suite if picks next year to play with.

Richmond will have enough picks this year that another 1st next year isn't the end if the world and the over/under on Carltons F1 vs pick 14 wouldn't be much.

 

[Kuuz]

WC want Barrass gone, but Hawks will only pay a fair price.

WC will blink or get nothing

They have so much more to lose.

They do not want Barrass on their list, if it means forgoing on Baker. They do have young players ready to play in Tom's spot, so screws their future planning a fair bit.

Their new coach wont complain about having an experienced back, but I feel it slows their rebuild a fair bit.

Love it - we are being proactive and telling Weagles to stop haggling over nothing.

 

[Iceman!]

WC want Barrass gone, but Hawks will only pay a fair price.

WC will blink or get nothing

WC fans pretending like they are stoked to be going to the draft with 3, 26 and 63 whilst having one of the worst lists in the comp over the past 15-20 years is hilarious.

 

[Glacier]

I have no ****ing idea what’s going on

 

[smish]

Wow. Harley 2025?

 

[Bugs1977]

IMO the trade for Carlton's F1 + F2 is a prelude to another deal. What that deal is I'm not sure but there's no way in hell we're leaving Barrass out in the cold. It's not what we do.

 

[Bugs1977]

Tom Barrass right now

 

[Kuuz]

Very possible at this point we do trade two F1s to Barrass, but we'd need a lot back the other way.

Don't like that either, but at this point we're going all in.

 

[Mrzohs]

IMO the trade for Carlton's F1 + F2 is a prelude to another deal. What that deal is I'm not sure but there's no way in hell we're leaving Barrass out in the cold. It's not what we do.

Did we get both future picks for our Pick 14 ?

if so Great move. the new offer to WCE would only cost us our original Pick 14...

 

[Hawk Vision]

This smells like a Harley play

 

[RCAB]

now we offer our F1 and Carlton's F2 for barass and hang on to carlton's f1?

Carlton could finish bottom 6 next year

 

[DogDaySonny]

I think the media narrative is too quick to jump the gun on drama. It could easily be that West Coast have told Hawthorn roughly what they would accept for Barrass, and putting 14 up for trade is part of making that happen. Not just screwing West Coast or threatening to walk from the trade.

If it's 14 for Carlton F1 + F2, maybe the trade just becomes Barrass for a future first and a second instead of 14 and a future second.

Or like, F1 (Haw) + F1 (Carl) for Barrass and F2 (WCE).

Which would make the end result Barrass and Carlton's F2 for 14 and a slide from our F1 to WC's F2 (hopefully minor). Which lets West Coast justify the trade as giving them 3 first round picks next year, while being comparable or less valuable than 14 + F2 to Hawthorn. Plus, they could send a less valuable future first to Richmond instead of 14 for Baker.

Zero chance this happens. Everyone knows that trade season is only win/lose and collaboration between teams for outcomes both are happy with do not happen. Everyone’s a Dodoro for these few weeks.

 

[Bugs1977]

They have so much more to lose.

They do not want Barrass on their list, if it means forgoing on Baker. They do have young players ready to play in Tom's spot, so screws their future planning a fair bit.

Their new coach wont complain about having an experienced back, but I feel it slows their rebuild a fair bit.

Love it - we are being proactive and telling Weagles to stop haggling over nothing.

It also sends a message to the rest of the comp that Hawthorn is not to be fooked with and we will not be bent over!

 

[Yummy5454]

14+F2 for TB + F3 is an extremely fair deal, maybe overs as it is

West Coast want a giant haul for TB while simultaneously pushing him out the door. Can’t play both sides of the coin

We’ll see what happens but I love that we’re keeping our options open

 

[hawkinoz]

Surely we just send both of Carltons picks to West Coast for Barrass? They get their 1st and 2nd for him and they just send Carltons F1 to Richmond for Baker. We still only pay Pick 14 and have a full suite if picks next year to play with.

Richmond will have enough picks this year that another 1st next year isn't the end if the world and the over/under on Carltons F1 vs pick 14 wouldn't be much.

Whats the fun in that.. We keep Blues pick so we can enjoy the 2025 blues dramss.

Our F1 and one of the F2's is plenty. Quite likely Eagles said they wanted a 1st rounder and 2nd rounder as bare minimum, we can offer than now. No need for this 2 F1's.

Their Baker issue is not our concern, we did try to give them 14 but they played hardball. There are costs.

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[TylerDurden]