List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[doppo]

and the club

Lol hang on, aren’t they the ones pushing him out the door? Its the right call but a bit rich to start from that position

 

[Lach72]

If Warner is a possibility, and a good one at that, sure go for him. If he's more likely next year though, focus on luring Bolton over, he fills more of a need for us right now.

I think that perhaps 7 + 16 + 25 for Bolton and Baker is where it falls tbh.

It’s some give on Bolton from our side, and some give from their side on Baker

We then take our pick to the draft and take Berry or similar

 

[guidodp15]

That’s extremely unfair. He has been solid, had he been fit 2019-2022. He would’ve been something.
His back has killed any longevity and robbed him of his legs.
Ross Lyon refused to play him in 2016 when he was averaging 20 disposals and 3 goals for Peel. That’s horrific. A team 0-9 and what we do ? Play Kersten in 2017.

It’s the club’s list management that robbed the team of any KPF. Choosing Tabs off the Rookie List then no one in the first round for 10 years until Amiss. That’s criminal

Taberner was a disaster in 2015 and dropped a chest mark on the goal line from shot going straight through.

 

[Firesharter]

And you think he doesn't? Darcy isn't blowing out. He's literally been at this weight for his entire career. He won a b&f at this weight. You really think he's had that b&f season and then decided to throw all professionalism out the window?

He admitted a couple of months ago he likes to get on the beers

 

[Vimal Anand]

Are Bolton's and Rioli's managers best mates with Twomey? Gettable sounds like he's trying to talk the Tigers into it.

His analogy was funny. " when you are planning to sell your house in 3 years, some one come today and ready to pay overs , just take it "......
He and Riley listed the picks Richmond will be having on draft day and also the players they will take. Some 5 or 6 players in top 20.

On SM-S918B using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[mike91]

Taberner was a disaster in 2015 and dropped a chest mark on the goal line from shot going straight through.

Hes also the only key forward since Pav to make the All Australian squad for Fremantle. He isn't the same player now, but only dead set morons think Tabs wasn't good for us overall.

 

[guidodp15]

Hes also the only key forward since Pav to make the All Australian squad for Fremantle. He isn't the same player now, but only dead set morons think Tabs wasn't good for us overall.

He made a squad of 40 in the shortened covid season where he kicked 16 goals. Nothing in that season counts. He has never been a good footballer.

 

[dont bowl there]

Hes also the only key forward since Pav to make the All Australian squad for Fremantle. He isn't the same player now, but only dead set morons think Tabs wasn't good for us overall.

I'm 100% a moron because Tabs was not a good player for us IMO. He made the AA squad in 2020 with 25% lower game time, it's the biggest outlioer season of all time. His games played and goals kicked stats are:

2023: 4 games 3 goals
2022: 13 games 23 goals
2021: 16 games 37 goals
2020: 16 games 29 goals
2019: 9 games 13 goals
2018: 9 games 10 goals
2017: 8 games 11 goals
2016: 17 games 18 goals
2015: 15 games 14 goals

He couldn't ever stay on the park, never worked out how to lead/block and when he was fit wasn't close to being elite. He got the most out of his body but let's not pretend he was anything above a c-grade forward for his entire career.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

He made a squad of 40 in the shortened covid season where he kicked 16 goals. Nothing in that season counts. He has never been a good footballer.

29 goals that year and 37 the year after. He's not some star but the initial claim saying he "stole a career" is garbage

 

[CaseySibosadoHOF]

I say one of Bolton or Warner is in purple next year because I think the only way Bolton isn't in purple is because something has happened with Warner.

Before Yze rapidly changed his tune compared to past statements by Yze himself, Tim Livingstone and Jon Ralph, I would not have underestimated the possibility that Richmond cut off their nose to spite their face and price Freo out of the trade. Now though, yeah you'd think Richmond won't actively sabotage a trade, so if Freo want him Freo get him.

 

[go_the_dockers]

He made a squad of 40 in the shortened covid season where he kicked 16 goals. Nothing in that season counts. He has never been a good footballer.

125 games
173 goals at 1.5 goals a game.
5 Marks per game.

He is a very solid player. Just did not have the skills or the footy smarts to get any more out of himself. If every player worked as hard as him on our list, we would be top 2 at the moment.

 

[Taylor]

In 2020, Matthew Taberner

20

Matthew Taberner

Age

31

Ht

198cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

5.8

5star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

2.3

2star

M

6.1

5star

T

0.4

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

13.0

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.8

4star

averaged the second highest contested marks numbers all season.

=5th for marks inside fifty
=5th for goals

He wasn't overrated in 2020.

We could have done with him either five years earlier, or five years later. If he was 26 this year, we would be enjoying amazing depth, if he were 24 in 2013 instead of 19 we would have enjoyed that.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Before Yze rapidly changed his tune compared to past statements by Yze himself, Tim Livingstone and Jon Ralph, I would not have underestimated the possibility that Richmond cut off their nose to spite their face and price Freo out of the trade. Now though, yeah you'd think Richmond won't actively sabotage a trade, so if Freo want him Freo get him.

I included him in the poll at the start of the year basically for a reason. Trading Bolton has always made the most sense. They should have committed to it earlier and tried to sway Baker with a shitload of money before he made his mind up. In terms of contracted player trades, its the most win/win/win trade you can get. Everyone benefits

 

[dont bowl there]

125 games
173 goals at 1.5 goals a game.
5 Marks per game.

He is a very solid player. Just did not have the skills or the footy smarts to get any more out of himself. If every player worked as hard as him on our list, we would be top 2 at the moment.

If those stats were over 6 or 7 years you could say he was good. But those 173 goals and 125 games took 12 seasons of football to achieve. The fact he couldn't stay on the park hurt the side immensely when trying to build a competent and consistent forward line.

 

[fnerd]

and the club

I genuinely hope if they play the fool on this trade to that affect , that the hawks walk away.
Which will become a lot easier if battle decides to join them as well

Be interesting to see WC stance then.

Honestly WC almost can’t not afford to do the deal.

They’re just not going to get enough top end talent draft wise through the door in time before Tassie come in, without stretching the time line right out

Not to mention the amount of academy selections available being taking off the list of available talent looking like really increasing over the next few years.

West coast will have never faced anywhere near such conditions when attempting to rebuild since their inception , on top of this also basically starting not far from ground zero.

Let’s see if the majority of their supporters mantra “never down for long just coz west coast” holds up this time

 

[mike91]

He made a squad of 40 in the shortened covid season where he kicked 16 goals. Nothing in that season counts. He has never been a good footballer.

I love when nuffies use this excuse. It makes 0% sense. Good work mate

 

[dont bowl there]

I love when nuffies use this excuse. It makes 0% sense. Good work mate

It's no different to the people saying he was good because he made a squad of 40 once in 12 years.

 

[Taylor]

Be interesting to see WC stance then.

It would be interesting when Sydney join the race.

 

[mike91]

It's no different to the people saying he was good because he made a squad of 40 once in 12 years.

I'm not saying he was an amazing superstar, but please, name me one key forward since Pav that made the All Australian squad.

 

[go_the_dockers]

I'm not saying he was an amazing superstar, but please, name me one key forward since Pav that made the All Australian squad.

Josh Treacy in 6 weeks

 

[mike91]

Josh Treacy in 6 weeks

Would be amazing reward for a very, very good season. Good chance of making the All-Australian Squad

 

[dont bowl there]

I'm not saying he was an amazing superstar, but please, name me one key forward since Pav that made the All Australian squad.

I honestly don't care if he made a squad of 40 once as he wasn't even close to that 40 in any other of the 11 seasons he played for us. Put it this way, he's about 50% as good as Tim Membrey imo who is solid.

 

[mike91]

I honestly don't care if he made a squad of 40 once as he wasn't even close to that 40 in any other of the 11 seasons he played for us. Put it this way, he's about 50% as good as Tim Membrey imo who is solid.

He had some good seasons with us, but you're too close minded to even acknowledge it. It's a shame really, because you've decided any covid season doesn't count, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever

 

[Swiggy]

It would be interesting when Sydney join the race.

Apparently he’s sister has moved to Melbourne now. Talk that was the reason he wanted to go to swans last if he was traded

 

[go_the_dockers]

I honestly don't care if he made a squad of 40 once as he wasn't even close to that 40 in any other of the 11 seasons he played for us. Put it this way, he's about 50% as good as Tim Membrey imo who is solid.

He would have had a better career than 82% of players drafted.

Not the best, not the worst player. A good journey man career.