Carlton have a tight cap and Martin asked them to be delisted
Settling this early allows them to set the gears in place for other options
He was going to be a 4th or 5th rounder anyway
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Settling this early allows them to set the gears in place for other options
He was going to be a 4th or 5th rounder anyway
I think the people who don't rate Martin are ones who haven't watched him, this would be due to injuries, hard to watch him when he isn't out there.
He is definitely a good player, can take a mark overhead for his size, nice kick, footy smarts.
If he didn't pass the medical then that's fine, don't grab him.
As a swing that only takes up salary, he is perfect for us, make it a games incentivised contract if we must but get him in IMO
He is definitely a good player, can take a mark overhead for his size, nice kick, footy smarts.
If he didn't pass the medical then that's fine, don't grab him.
As a swing that only takes up salary, he is perfect for us, make it a games incentivised contract if we must but get him in IMO
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He has that Carlton stank, too.
I know the Blues love poaching our players, but who have we traded in from Carlton previously?
I know the Blues love poaching our players, but who have we traded in from Carlton previously?
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Who does he push out of the best 22?
What role does he play?
How many games is he fit for?
To me, he plays as a fourth tall.
He would be challenging Freddy and Sturt for a spot, and I think he is behind both.
I doubt he is fit for 10 games next year, this year he played 3 afl games, and got injured in 2.
Most importantly, he does not fix our small forward issue.
Not saying he is not good, just not the right player for us.
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Agreed. I think as a general principle, fans tend to align much of their expectations about a player on the basis of their draft position. In reality, all that does is get you in the door - I'd liken it to your year 12 results meaning squat the moment you're into a uni course. Both are merely indicators of underlying talent, ability or potential that, for a plethora of reasons, may or may not be fulfilled.
Anyway, those expectations tend to endure through most of a player's career. Take JOM. Is he a quality player? You tend not to play what will likely end up being 200+ if you're a potato. But by virtue of him being a pick 1 (of sorts), the analysis of his career gets framed in that context when, on the whole, it shouldn't - and particularly so when a player is no longer at the club who coughed that up.
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Think we'd just rather the picks and cap space. He's a reverse Switkowski.
Swita does everything but kick goals
Owies does nothing other than kick goals
Didn’t they basically give us Jye Amiss for nothing?
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Does not provide much forward pressure, a bit slow.
I would pass. Think of a less talented, probably slower Michael Walters.
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If a fit Martin isn't making B22 then we are top 4 next year, we can find room for him
Thought he was better than Bolten??
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I never said that
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If we are still keen on Warner I think we should tell Pickett this is his only chance to request a trade to Freo. If he wants to stay in Melbourne, I say we get Bolton with two of our current picks and draft Berry with the remaining pick. That sorts out our forwardline and leaves the future picks for Warner next season. The only downside is that our defensive pressure doesn't improve, but hopefully that is offset by our increased scoring potential.
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Owies is small forward and doesn’t provide much pressure.
He’s far from the worst small forward in the league but our forward pressure is fast becoming the main reason I’m concerned our list can’t win a flag. Every finals game I watch it’s becoming more apparent you can’t be as bad as we are in the forward half without the ball and expect to be one of the top sides.
Small forward doesn’t necessarily equal pressure - Owies is just such a poor fit for us.
He’s far from the worst small forward in the league but our forward pressure is fast becoming the main reason I’m concerned our list can’t win a flag. Every finals game I watch it’s becoming more apparent you can’t be as bad as we are in the forward half without the ball and expect to be one of the top sides.
Small forward doesn’t necessarily equal pressure - Owies is just such a poor fit for us.
The trade for Cerra was highway robbery for Carlton at the time. I’m still mad at that one and it is one of the reasons (amongst many) I dislike Carlton so much.
We drafted well with that selection but we should’ve got more for Cerra.
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I keep hearing posters saying we should just draft Berry like It's a given if we want him.
Berry is projected to go top 10. What are the chances we can draft him with our pick? Small forwards often go sooner than projected, too. That is a gamble.
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Berry won't go top ten, look at the class in the projected top ten. I am almost certain he will drop. Keep pick 9 and that almost guarantees landing him. What teams below us need him?
It's not our fault they ruined him.
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I find this Martin debate very interesting, he’s not a small forward but as a medium forward he’s better than both Banfield and Emmett, so there’s definitely room for him in the starting 22 if he can stay fit.
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He has been on the rise based on recent form. From Fox Sport in August;
Now in top-10 calculations after a brilliant, eye-catching carnival for Vic Country where he was one of the most dangerous players. He was a threat across all four games, finishing with nine goals and averaging 13.2 disposals and 5.5 score involvements. Berry is your typical high forward as he possesses top-end speed that allows him to get up the ground, as well as excellent creativity close to goal. Berry is a natural crumber, getting to the right spots to show off his cleanliness at ground level and innate goal sense. He’s kicked 25 goals for the Bushrangers this season — the most of any active Coates Talent League player — while also averaging 14.7 disposals and 4.1 inside 50s. He just looks like an AFL player.
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