But those 2 clubs obviously academy and trading players that other teams developed? The draft success mentioned is same for other clubs?
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But those 2 clubs obviously academy and trading players that other teams developed? The draft success mentioned is same for other clubs?
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Bolton/Pickett are elite for their position and those types are scarce. They would go much further to addressing our weaknesses than having Warner per say.
Warner would be great to have but the other two have more currency for our list at the moment IMO.
Warner would be great to have but the other two have more currency for our list at the moment IMO.
Here’s the play by play.
Houston requests Melbourne. Stalemate. Demons aren’t using pick 5.
Bolton to Freo. We give up 9&16. We get some inconsequential stuff back.
Pickett becomes the key to unlock Houston.
We use 10 and a mass swapping of picks between the 3 clubs.
We get Bolton and Pickett. Keep our F1.
With 3 days left in the trade period, Warner sounds out Freo. Freo collectively lose their minds as we’ve given all draft capital away.
We place one Bailey Banfield on the table and allow a bidding war to ensue. North pay overs for Banfield and we have the assets to bring in Warner.
We land Bolton, Pickett and Warner.
We finish 2025 in 7th and eliminated to Carton away.
We all know this is 84% chance accurate.
Houston requests Melbourne. Stalemate. Demons aren’t using pick 5.
Bolton to Freo. We give up 9&16. We get some inconsequential stuff back.
Pickett becomes the key to unlock Houston.
We use 10 and a mass swapping of picks between the 3 clubs.
We get Bolton and Pickett. Keep our F1.
With 3 days left in the trade period, Warner sounds out Freo. Freo collectively lose their minds as we’ve given all draft capital away.
We place one Bailey Banfield on the table and allow a bidding war to ensue. North pay overs for Banfield and we have the assets to bring in Warner.
We land Bolton, Pickett and Warner.
We finish 2025 in 7th and eliminated to Carton away.
We all know this is 84% chance accurate.
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Then the endless threads of "We Would have beaten Carlton if we didn't trade Banfield"..begin.
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This is going to be a trade season of complexity.
In our current list - upgrades on Bailey Banfield, JOM & Walters is what I'd like to see in the starting 22.
Bolton in almost ticks 2 of those boxes plus I'm still of the view Erasmus can compete given opportunities.
I don't mind Bailey as depth at all.
In our current list - upgrades on Bailey Banfield, JOM & Walters is what I'd like to see in the starting 22.
Bolton in almost ticks 2 of those boxes plus I'm still of the view Erasmus can compete given opportunities.
I don't mind Bailey as depth at all.
Usually their later picks actually move up the draft as clubs generally compile a raft of later selections that get eaten up the first bid
Obviously this is just my selection, others will have something different.
Walker Pearce Chapman
Ryan Cox Clark
Sharp Fyfe ODriscoll
Sturt Treacy Frederick
Bolton Amiss Switta
Darcy Brayshaw Serong
Young Johnson Wagner Jackson
Brendon Parfitt delisted by Geelong. If Jack Martin was the best player delisted so far we might we'll have a new leader.
No saying it's us but I'd be shocked if he's not back on an AFL list quite soon.
No saying it's us but I'd be shocked if he's not back on an AFL list quite soon.
We need a tagger, he'd fit the bill.
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That's actually a pretty crazy list turnover from Geelong. 9 players delisted or retired, getting Smith which will take multiple picks and with just the standard 4 picks in the draft as it stands.
Martin is absolutely going there for free and they are drafting DEEP in this draft
Martin is absolutely going there for free and they are drafting DEEP in this draft
No way he gets a regular game here.
Can we remember this when the perennial argument from some posters begins that we are turning over too many players on our list and we need to slow down the turnover and stabilise the list because that’s what top 4 teams do?
Like every other year we should be averaging 7-8 players departing and the same amount of new players incoming on our list, that’s just standard, afl average list turnover.
If anything the AFL want even more trades and player movement not less.
And let’s not even mention Tasmania…..
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Gold Coast will probably again give Geelong a player and a first round pick to take that player. That will help balance their list
Surely you try get a fourth rounder for Parfitt if you're going deep in the draft tbh. Probably moreso than normal.
With that many cuts they're clearly going deep. Probably adding some depth players for **** all as well.
If we can also remember that not all trades/delistings are equivalent and that there is a difference between "list" and "best 23". I haven't seen many arguments that we need to keep, e.g., Stanley for list stability reasons. If it's Switta we're talking about, on the other hand, I think the point about stability (just as importantly, experience too) is significant.Can we remember this when the perennial argument from some posters begins that we are turning over too many players on our list and we need to slow down the turnover and stabilise the list because that’s what top 4 teams do?
Like every other year we should be averaging 7-8 players departing and the same amount of new players incoming on our list, that’s just standard, afl average list turnover.
I understand that you're thinking about the suggestions every year that we re-sign the vast majority of OCCs and just draft one or two rookies, but I take it you're not in favour of trading out our top 5 in the Doig purely for the sake of hitting the 7–8 player turnover average.
Of course not.
I want to keep all our good players.
Despite his flaws I rate Switta as an important piece in a good team if surrounded by guys that can compensate for his weaknesses.
It’s when you read on here that we should give the likes of Kuek another year, or Stanley, or even giving players in the 22-30 rating on the list multi year deals like Worner (lucky boy that he’s contracted this year in my opinion) or the 4 year Brodie deal or the 3 year Hughes one, things like that.
Losing established talent to trades should not mean a player at the bottom end of the list gets an extra year as “depth”.
They’re good at the late picks
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We have a tagger but the coach refuses to use him.
Not worth the hassle. All it would be is something in the 50's, and by then clubs are dropping out and/or teams can get whoever they want. Geelong can just use their 5th, 6th, 7th rounders after everyone else has stopped. Last year they took picks 58, 61, 63 for example.
And from memory they copped quite a bit for holding up trade period to get two of those picks from Port Adelaide in the Ratugolea deal.
They were something like pick 75 (58) and 95 (63) at the time of the trade btw.
That appears to be exactly what they doing. I agree doesn’t seem to achieve a lot. More talent possessed by Martin. Less injury prone is Parfitt.
Not sure Geelong’s depth is ever as good as this board thinks tbh. I remember telling people players like Dahlhaus, Higgins and Narkle wouldn’t get a game for us in 2022 - the first two looked like good depth on paper but if you actually watched them play in 2021 and 2022 they were cooked. Narkle is just sh**e and was overrated due to playing occasionally for a good team. So many sh**e depth players from good teams have fooled weaker teams’ list managers let alone fans and it happens over and over again.
Parfitt certainly looks better on paper than these guys but has been depth for a few years now and has never been able to get himself a trade away despite that. In hindsight maybe he’s not as good as I thought even earlier today - he certainly hasn’t exactly played enough for me to get a proper read on exactly how good he actually is in 2024. I was very much basing my opinion on what I’d seen from Parfitt a few years ago - making the same mistake as others did in my examples above.
Given how much Geelong tried to get garbage picks out of Port Adelaide for the Ratugolea deal last year and how deep they look like drafting this year, I can only assume they don’t think any team thinks Parfitt is worth a senior list spot. I do get the feeling this move allows a slightly simpler move (can talk to clubs earlier) through the SSP Jeremy Sharp-style where he sits out the Rookie Draft and gets added to the Rookie List day one of the SSP.
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