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Agreed - there was a change at Geelong that took them from a long time with no premiership to multiple. Getting that list right lays a strong foundation for sustained onfield results.
I stopped after about 10mins - maybe even earlier. They were interviewing GWS recruiter when I stopped. So would have been in the first 5mins or so.
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Bartel and Ling I seem to recall plus Ablett and Hawkins close to each other
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A very surface level look at it, based off those I can remember immediately for that window (minus Nathan Ablett)...
Scarlett, Ablett Jr, Hawkins, Blake
These four have an average draft pick of #41
Have combined for: 15x AA (for Geelong), 9x Premierhip medals, 977 games.
In the window when ten years service and thirty years old plus meant you could exclude half their salary from the total player payments (Salary Cap).
I complain about it a lot here but changing the rules to make it more fair actually made Geelong's advantage even greater because nobody else could climb the same ladder, they pulled it up after them then mocked you as you tried to climb the rope with a heavy backpack.
The fact that it took Geelong so long to break that premiership drought just goes to show how difficult it is to win a premiership. Their previous premiership went way back to the VFL days and the period to their next flag included Geelong having some very good teams and players that couldn't quite get them there. It's difficult and everything has to be just about perfect.
On top of all FS selections, Hawks then gifted them Joel Selwood taking Mitch Thorp ahead of Geelong picking up Selwood. It was a strange decision by Hawks who already drafted Buddy and Roughy a year before, maybe two, can’t remember exactly. Can you imagine Hawks team with Seleood in it?
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I think they (and others ) were spooked by concerns re Selwood’s knee. The most over hyped knee issue in history!
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I’m going to take a free swing at the positive and just a few additional thoughts in regards to next year ? As frustrated as we all where as supporters at the beginning of the season I think the team showed a lot in the last 6 games to be positive for next year . In saying that the loss of Schultz is a big blow ( I understand the circumstances and in life it happens , both clubs tried to do the best thing for lachie and that’s all you hope for ) but I think Emmett comfortably has his spot . In regards MacDonald I think it’s good the club didn’t pull the trigger this draft. Waiting to see what he can do next year without buddy is just a cautious approach but also allows us to see if the cohesion that the triple J’s built mid season can be built on when Darcy returns as the number 1 ruckman
the loss of Henry is not that big a deal for me his penetration with his kicking was an issue , and yes his confidence got there the last few games but if Nod gets back his fitness and his work ethic he was always going to be picked in front of Henry ( that’s why he got his chance anyway )
I didn’t think the bathwater thing would become an issue last summer and I do wonder if the club backed off on preseason last year similar to a taper in swimmers getting to an olympics . The players looked on their last legs going into the last 4/6 weeks of 2022 . Wether people like or not they are a young group ?
right or wrong the league is to professional to get cute every club works on their weaknesses over summer.
so I expect all of those possible issues to be put behind them this summer ( hindsight is a wonderful thing )
I think we are going to have to get used to players leaving Fremantle in the future as they are fringe and can get games at other clubs . But I think that shows how good walls and bell have been at identifying talent but at the very least we receive draft picks in return which many other clubs don’t ( have a look at the age of delisting sat the other clubs the last 2 years )
just maybe if Fyfe , Nod and Brodie get back to a good level and Chapman being available there’s our midfield improvement we lacked this year and with natural growth from Johnson and Erasmus, the sharing of the load with Bradshaw serong and omeara is very exciting
my greatest wish is for young to stay on the trajectory of David Mundy ! !
now that’s exciting
the loss of Henry is not that big a deal for me his penetration with his kicking was an issue , and yes his confidence got there the last few games but if Nod gets back his fitness and his work ethic he was always going to be picked in front of Henry ( that’s why he got his chance anyway )
I didn’t think the bathwater thing would become an issue last summer and I do wonder if the club backed off on preseason last year similar to a taper in swimmers getting to an olympics . The players looked on their last legs going into the last 4/6 weeks of 2022 . Wether people like or not they are a young group ?
right or wrong the league is to professional to get cute every club works on their weaknesses over summer.
so I expect all of those possible issues to be put behind them this summer ( hindsight is a wonderful thing )
I think we are going to have to get used to players leaving Fremantle in the future as they are fringe and can get games at other clubs . But I think that shows how good walls and bell have been at identifying talent but at the very least we receive draft picks in return which many other clubs don’t ( have a look at the age of delisting sat the other clubs the last 2 years )
just maybe if Fyfe , Nod and Brodie get back to a good level and Chapman being available there’s our midfield improvement we lacked this year and with natural growth from Johnson and Erasmus, the sharing of the load with Bradshaw serong and omeara is very exciting
my greatest wish is for young to stay on the trajectory of David Mundy ! !
now that’s exciting
Yes true, and they also had Malcolm Blight who was a fantastic coach.
I think we have too many things that are a fair journey from being perfect to be a serious premiership contender.
not to forget luck...
Guaranteed theres good luck and theres bad luck...
Bad luck makes it that much harder.
Some times it is not luck, but how often you put your hand out and keep getting assistance.
Some clubs have made a living off it. Not saying Geelong did, but a few others have.
Some clubs have made a living off it. Not saying Geelong did, but a few others have.
I agree and have been saying this a lot.
Having a talented list just puts you in a position to be a contender. That’s all.
So so much more required to actually win a flag.
With just about zilch competitive advantage over the comp (no FS, no academy stars, no abailty to attract decent free agents) we need to be the best/top 2 or 3 in almost every other aspect of what is needed to win a flag.
A top class coach
A top class gameplan
Top class development coaching for your young players to allow them to become gun players
Top class injury management
Plenty of luck.
Excellent trading and contract negotiation and management.
We need to be top 3 or 4 in the AFL in all of the above, in addition to having a quality list.
Even then - winning a flag will be very very difficult.
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I'm sold. They (siblings) say he is the best of the lot. I don't know at what pick though.
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We have never ever been offered the hand outs that the Melbourne based club that are financially in the poo. Never been offered extra selections because we have performed badly.In fact when the Golden Greek and his Batman side kick were in charge, they would come to Fremantle and threaten the club with being removed if they didn't start top perform.
They never offered support when the club were $8mil in the red.The club had to do it themselves as a group.
The Road Kill Roos have been a basket case since before the Eagles and Bears went in to help save them.They have a very ordinary membership, a very ordinary team to boot. The AFL force feed them ,but nothing changes.
Melbourne FC were in dire straights for over 20 years, no money, no players. The club badly run. The AFL step in employ a CEO for them The employ a coach, Paul Roos, all funded by the AFL.
Check out the history of how the VFL/AFL have molly coddled many of theMelbourne based clubs over the Years.
If we were offered the same benefits it would be nice. But please don't hold your breath waiting.
It is till the VFL supporting the Melbourne based clubs.
Moreso from the fact we dont whine to the AFL.
I think we'd have a reasonable case to argue for a larger footy budget. Unless we can add more $$ over what the Vic clubs do we will never get the best assistant coaches. Lyon we stumbled into.
I think that the getting of Lyon was a rare piece of Fremantle cleverness. We out thought everyone.And for once, we never had a leak that made the media aware of what was going on.It pissed off the media that we some how stopped the sieve from leaking.Hence to cold shoulder that was presented to Lyon from the Worst Rag media.
I am pleased we do not whine to the AFL. It mkaes me proud that we do not have to beg like paupers that melbourne based club do... constantly.But as the saying goes... the squeeky wheel gets the most grease.
As I said in a post here previous, we need a drum banger at the head of our club.Someone that is not afraid to stir the possum.A bit like Eddie McGuire. Love him or hate him, he made sure that Collingwood was first, last and everyhting in between when it came to negotiating with the AFL.
Imagine the squealing coming from the Melbourne based club if we received a larger budget!
It will be interesting to see if the AFL take any notice of the two WA clubs asking for an extra home game for the coming season.
You can blame the AFL, but the WA footy commission just tax collect.
Agree, and they the WAFC are an organisation that don't totally respect the Dockers.Never have , never will.
But the AFL are the ones who took our $4mill and used it to prop up the unfinancial Melbourne clubs.
The AFL doesn’t need to invest in WA as there is literally zero competition for a supporter to go watch anything else.
Western Force died, no NRL team, nothing else to watch or development paths for kids to make a career out of in football codes. Every year Aussie rules attendances grows in WA no matter where the teams finish.
Who’s the most successful NRL team of the last 20 years? It’s no coincidence that VIC teams have absolutely dominated AFL in that time.
The best option for WA teams would be for NRL and ARU to establish successful teams in WA that start stealing audiences from AFL. Only then will we see a flourish of premierships from WA teams.
Difficult part is that WA fans are proud of their lack of interest in anything but Aussies rules. So setting up financially successful teams of other codes is next to impossible (Force, Reds etc.).
The Force and Reds were killed off by greed from fhe organisations running them. Nothing to do with crowds. In fact both teams had great followings.
Doesn’t matter why they died it just matters that they don’t exist today. WA supporters / players can’t watch or make a career out of anything else except AFL.
It won’t be until WA can show viable competition in other codes that attracts crowds and talent away from the AFL that the AFL will start to manipulate the rules in our favour so WA teams win more premierships.
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