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He is on the Rookie list. I don’t get why it bother people so much?
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You don’t think the club are prioritising winning next year? Murray’s hardly rucked
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If he is on the rookie list why sign him early?
I am bothered because we once again highlight our lack of thinking and flexibility. Its a '' fill the spots '' management style - which is fine in moments but struggles to be flexible
I mentioned in June we need to be careful about our signings as we needed to keep our options open
And then we sign deadwood after deadwood
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Theme of the season.. we did it with our coach too. No need to rush, 1 bad game and they quickly announce a contract extension to our utter horror. Then they sign up players mid year when we are coming into a very strong draft.
Still, I am not complaining about getting Peatling, Cumming and ANB - we have done well there and pick 4 should be a home run in this draft and Welsh is a project with a high ceiling. I suppose just 1 more list spot for a ruck would have made it a great end of season trade / draft period.
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Powa have had numerous opportunities to grab Borlase and have never showed any interest.
The whispers are a furphy.
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Five?
Keane, Murray, Butts.
You counting Worrell? Fair enough if you are but he hasn't played that role much.
Yes seems strange Borlase getting 2 years as you point out at a premature date as per Drugs. The logical answer is he had interest elsewhere and probably for 2 years. With Keane looking very uncertain then Borlase became a more important signing as we certainly couldn’t afford to lose both.
Now us not being in club land we will never know these facts for sure (not currently anyway) but I would think that’s the most logical explanation. Reid has proven to be a good operator overall, especially in recent years, and most player contracts and trades (and pick swaps) seem competently handled so it’s up to the individual to interpret events and whether they give Reid the benefit of the doubt (I do)
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We could have just waited till Keane made a decision before making a decision on Borlase... but this isn't nearly the worst time we have jumped the gun this year!
I think Reid is most likely very good at his job, but I think our list management strategy is flawed. We’ve built a list that is now largely locked in, except for minimum changes, that isn’t a good in hell of finishing top few over multiple years. Things go right and we could spike a year, but we won’t be up for multiple years.
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Not.with our coaching staff we won't.
Funny you should say that as I was genuinely thinking the exact opposite recently, that we have one of the LONGEST ever premiership windows about to open for us. We have an amazing cohort of 23 and unders (plus 24 yo Rankine), will only lose Tex as an important cog over the next couple of years (with Fog perfectly primed to take over), I imagine excellent salary capacity still to keep bringing in trades (we are near leagues best in recent years and turned a corner on this very important aspect) and banked salary $$ from previous years plus effectively a full hand of draft picks going forward. Next year bring in a new ruck to replace ROB and NWM type and we could be pushing 8+ elite players in our team (Dawson, Rankine, TT, Rachele, Curtin and IMO Murray, Worrell, pick 4, NWM. Fog and Soli B+ or better plus our 3 new recruits all very solid B or better players.)
I think we could contend seriously for the flag from 2026 for a good 7-8 years. I actually think Crows and Suns will be the 2 dominant teams for half a decade from 2026 onwards.
Please see above post
I think a lot rests on Pick 4, the front and back half seem to be in good shape for a few years, injury permitting. A bit more class in the middle to ease the pressure on soligo/rankine/dawson etc would go a long way to elevating the team while thilthorpe comes into his own up forward.
The danger in my mind is how much time for this core group of players ends up being wasted with Nicks.
The danger in my mind is how much time for this core group of players ends up being wasted with Nicks.
There have always been rumours about Port wanting him but they have had multiple chances and haven't. They clearly don't rate him
He has had four years in the system and not really improved.
He is lucky to get a 5th and 6th year in my opinion.
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We probably looked at the number of players rolling off contract at the end of 2025 and didn't think it was smart to have another. Genuine backup key defenders are good to have.
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Gee, I would have thought he'd really obviously improved. He's a low ceiling sort of player but he's gotten a lot better.
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he's a good solid break glass option. Happy to have him as backup in such a specialized position.
Kind of reminds me of Luke Thompson.
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Lots of mental gymnastics going on trying to justify an unnecessary extra year
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You'll never get 22+ games from your key defenders, so you need some competent mature backup.
I mean we aren’t winning anything of note.
We are still experimenting with our list.
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No we arent
We are primed and ready to go and anything less than finals is a failure
Just stumbled on this discussion and while I agree with most of what you guys from over the border are saying about what would happen in a trade for NWM next year (if he was to request a trade to you guys- ie, there’s pretty much no way known you would trade the guy you get at pick 4 this year, and that because he’s out of contract, we’d probably get a pick around 8 for him), but I think you’re underestimating how good he already is. And not taking into account the fact that most guys in their 4th year are considerably better than they were in their 3rd.
A few facts.
-He’s just had back-to-back top 5 B&F finishes (at a team that’s won as many games as they’ve lost across those two years, playing finals in one of them) at the ages of 20 and 21.
That suggests he’s more than just a talented guy who’s shown some promise. He’s already one of his teams very best players. Consistently.
-He received 35 coaches votes this year.
To put that into perspective, despite most of their teams winning more games than his (giving them more golden opportunities for votes) here are the numbers of a few similar types.
Luke Ryan (AA)- 24 votes
Dan Houston (AA)- 26 votes
Jordan Clark (AA squad)- 30 votes
Nick Blakey (AA squad)- 40 votes
Lachie Whitfield (AA)- 41 votes
Dayne Zorko (AA)- 43 votes
Jack Sinclair (AA squad)- 44 votes
All of the above would suggest that Nas (with 35 coaches votes) could very very easily have been in the AA squad this year.
Despite being much younger than most of them and 3 years younger than the two youngest. In fact, that’s probably why he missed.
He’s miles ahead of where most of them were at the same age. The only one that would have been within cooee at the same age was Whitfield.
-It was reported in June that Champion Data rated him the no.1 field kick in the league, ahead of the likes of Gulden (2), Dale (3), Blakey (5), Zorko (6) and Jordan (10).
He’s already a genuine weapon who can cut teams up and yet he’s played just 3 seasons of footy.
If he improves the same sort of amount in his 4th year as most do at that age, he’s a dead-cert to be in the AA squad next year at a bare minimum (if he remains at half back).
A few facts.
-He’s just had back-to-back top 5 B&F finishes (at a team that’s won as many games as they’ve lost across those two years, playing finals in one of them) at the ages of 20 and 21.
That suggests he’s more than just a talented guy who’s shown some promise. He’s already one of his teams very best players. Consistently.
-He received 35 coaches votes this year.
To put that into perspective, despite most of their teams winning more games than his (giving them more golden opportunities for votes) here are the numbers of a few similar types.
Luke Ryan (AA)- 24 votes
Dan Houston (AA)- 26 votes
Jordan Clark (AA squad)- 30 votes
Nick Blakey (AA squad)- 40 votes
Lachie Whitfield (AA)- 41 votes
Dayne Zorko (AA)- 43 votes
Jack Sinclair (AA squad)- 44 votes
All of the above would suggest that Nas (with 35 coaches votes) could very very easily have been in the AA squad this year.
Despite being much younger than most of them and 3 years younger than the two youngest. In fact, that’s probably why he missed.
He’s miles ahead of where most of them were at the same age. The only one that would have been within cooee at the same age was Whitfield.
-It was reported in June that Champion Data rated him the no.1 field kick in the league, ahead of the likes of Gulden (2), Dale (3), Blakey (5), Zorko (6) and Jordan (10).
He’s already a genuine weapon who can cut teams up and yet he’s played just 3 seasons of footy.
If he improves the same sort of amount in his 4th year as most do at that age, he’s a dead-cert to be in the AA squad next year at a bare minimum (if he remains at half back).
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