List Mgmt. 2024 List Mismanagement and Trading

[cmndstab]

I think we pretty easily could have fit a second MSD pick even if it was an 18 month contract

If there was a player we rated still available, we wouldn't have heard anything about not being able to fit them in.

I think that kind of talk is just the club's way of saying "if any of the other available rookies do turn out good in the future, it's not that we overlooked their talent, it's just that our hands were tied".

 

[Captain Furious]

If both Welsh and Turray develop into AFL standard players, would we say a forward line of Turray/RT/Fog/Welsh is too tall?

You’d hope if RT and Turray are in the same side one of them is ruck. It’s been over 20 years since Dean Cox started playing as an extra midfielder, not sure why we’re still playing lumberjacks who can’t contribute as a ball player.

RT always said he wanted to play as a mid.

 

[GreyCrow]

Please dont use Turray

 

[Captain Furious]

Please dont use Turray

Sorry dad.

Moving forward with Tuzza.

 

[Jarman3]

You’d hope if RT and Turray are in the same side one of them is ruck. It’s been over 20 years since Dean Cox started playing as an extra midfielder, not sure why we’re still playing lumberjacks who can’t contribute as a ball player.

RT always said he wanted to play as a mid.

I don't like RT as a ruck purely because of the physical punishment they take. He's already had a couple of knee issues. We've got too much invested in him to risk him there as anything more than a pinch hitter. Using RT as a ruck is like taking a Rolls Royce into a demolition derby - even if you win, it's not worth the damage.

 

[MarcusP2]

Please dont use Turray

Toby Murray

Torray

Torry

Torana

 

[GreyCrow]

His name is Toby

 

[Jarman3]

 

[Mutineer]

If both Welsh and Turray develop into AFL standard players, would we say a forward line of Turray/RT/Fog/Welsh is too tall?

No.

Welsh is not your standard tall like the other 3, his elite turn of speed would leave the other 3 in his dust when it comes to applying defensive pressure.

 

[rabidcrow]

I think we pretty easily could have fit a second MSD pick even if it was an 18 month contract

Out of contract rookies: Parnell, Borlase, Hamill. Delist two for Murray and a second pick (Parnell and Hamill most likely).

We were also running 38 senior and 4 rookies, so could go up to 6 rookies through delisting some seniors if we wanted rookie/SSP/MSD slots

Should be moving at least five players off the senior list (McHenry, Gollant, Bond (all delisted), Himmelberg (FA), Smith (retired)) anyway

The rest of the out of contract players retained. Cook 2 year deal, Berry 1 year deal, Walker 1 year if he wants to continue. Sholl's contract would depend on if he's in the team at the end of the year which he rarely has been

McHenry is zero chance of being delisted. Traded maybe but he will be on an AFL list next year (I would put money on him being on ours)




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[Vader]

McHenry is zero chance of being delisted. Traded maybe but he will be on an AFL list next year (I would put money on him being on ours)

... and I wouldn't bet on Smith retiring (or being delisted) either. That's pure wishful thinking and/or BF groupthink.

 

[Danger in Texas]

... and I wouldn't bet on Smith retiring (or being delisted) either. That's pure wishful thinking and/or BF groupthink.

If he’s met his trigger, he’s definitely playing on, as much as I don’t love to see it (though he was better against the Eagles)

 

[whattagun07]

No.

Welsh is not your standard tall like the other 3, his elite turn of speed would leave the other 3 in his dust when it comes to applying defensive pressure.

Sounds good to me!
I've only seen a couple of clips of Welsh,
are we talking elite off the mark? or breakaway with ball in hand?
elite for a big forward or elite elite?

Who's the best player comparison you have for him?

 

[jackster83]

If he’s met his trigger, he’s definitely playing on, as much as I don’t love to see it (though he was better against the Eagles)

Yep, we'll just roll with the same list, same coaches and then act surprised when we miss finals again. Can always get blame injuries or the umpires again I suppose.

 

[Scorpus]

McHenry is zero chance of being delisted. Traded maybe but he will be on an AFL list next year (I would put money on him being on ours)




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... and I wouldn't bet on Smith retiring (or being delisted) either. That's pure wishful thinking and/or BF groupthink.

I agree. We won't turn over enough of our list again and continue to be mediocre

 

[rabidcrow]

I agree. We won't turn over enough of our list again and continue to be mediocre

We won’t have a large list turnover

I expect us to get 1-2 free agents/trade ins
2 at the draft maybe our first pick and Welsh points from the rest of our picks.
Maybe a rookie
So 5 changes would be my guess

I suspect Parnell goes, EH goes, Burgess maybe, Sloane and then probably Bond

Then depending on who the trade ins our possibly Borlase


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[cmndstab]

... and I wouldn't bet on Smith retiring (or being delisted) either. That's pure wishful thinking and/or BF groupthink.

Yes, he feels like a 2025 or 2026 retirement to me, and which one it ends up being depends on whether we replace him in the starting side soon enough.

 

[Danger in Texas]

I think one of Hamill/McHenry stays, and one departs. If Ned stays, he goes to the rookie list

I can’t see Gollant sticking around with Welsh coming in

Bond is a weird one, he probably goes at this point but maybe hasn’t received a whole lot of opportunity

So with Sloane and EH, that’ll be 5 senior list spots to fill. Maybe three draft picks, and two players as FA/trade ins?

 

[glengowan]

Sounds good to me!
I've only seen a couple of clips of Welsh,
are we talking elite off the mark? or breakaway with ball in hand?
elite for a big forward or elite elite?

Who's the best player comparison you have for him?

Scott Welsh?

 

[GreyCrow]

We won’t have a large list turnover

I expect us to get 1-2 free agents/trade ins
2 at the draft maybe our first pick and Welsh points from the rest of our picks.
Maybe a rookie
So 5 changes would be my guess

I suspect Parnell goes, EH goes, Burgess maybe, Sloane and then probably Bond

Then depending on who the trade ins our possibly Borlase


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Burgess will be fine as back up

I do think we wont do too many deep cuts - I think it depends on who says yes to coming here

I think Gollant might get squeezed out

 

[Mutineer]

Sounds good to me!
I've only seen a couple of clips of Welsh,
are we talking elite off the mark? or breakaway with ball in hand?
elite for a big forward or elite elite?

Who's the best player comparison you have for him?

Jake Stringer.

 

[hugecannon]

Sounds good to me!
I've only seen a couple of clips of Welsh,
are we talking elite off the mark? or breakaway with ball in hand?
elite for a big forward or elite elite?

Who's the best player comparison you have for him?

I think there have been a few comparisons to Darling or Stringer with him.

 

[Crows I Am]

McHenry is zero chance of being delisted. Traded maybe but he will be on an AFL list next year (I would put money on him being on ours)




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If he remains out of the AFL side for the rest of the year he may be a chance to move on. Or maybe at least moved to the rookie list. I don't think he is 100% safe right now.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Sounds good to me!
I've only seen a couple of clips of Welsh,
are we talking elite off the mark? or breakaway with ball in hand?
elite for a big forward or elite elite?

Who's the best player comparison you have for him?

Best comparison for Tyler Welsh ? .......Scott Welsh

 

[Gtowncrow]

Sounds good to me!
I've only seen a couple of clips of Welsh,
are we talking elite off the mark? or breakaway with ball in hand?
elite for a big forward or elite elite?

Who's the best player comparison you have for him?

You can't believe how much I want this answer to be Harley Reid!!