List Mgmt. 2024 List Mismanagement and Trading Part 2

[Danger in Texas]

I think the changing of the guard should happen sooner. There are reasons why Crouch wouldn't make the majority of midfields in the comp.

I don’t think Crouch is actively hurting us being in there, at the moment, so I’m fine if he continues to hold a place for 2025 while Curtin/Edwards/pick 4 develop

 

[Danger in Texas]

Agree. Let's hope Nicks is forced to pick the actual best 22 with whatever this Director of Coaching BS is.

FB. Worrell ~ Murray ~ Bond
HB. Hinge ~ Keane ~ Michalanney

C. Cumming ~ Dawson ~ Soligo
R. O'Brien ~ Crouch ~ Rankine

HF. Lukosius ~ Fogarty ~ Neale-Bullen
FF. Rachele ~ Thilthorpe ~ Keays

B. Curtin ~ Lalor ~ Milera ~ Taylor
S. Pedlar

Em. Laird, Butts, Berry, Murphy, Ryan, Edwards, Nankervis, Sholl, Dowling, Cook, Walker, Smith

Not sure Bond starts next year in the 22, particularly after only getting a one-year deal

Someone like Lalor would have to prove their fitness, too (in comparison to say Jagga or Draper, who’d be a day 1 walk up start)

 

[Eddie Murphy]

Agree. Let's hope Nicks is forced to pick the actual best 22 with whatever this Director of Coaching BS is.

FB. Worrell ~ Murray ~ Bond
HB. Hinge ~ Keane ~ Michalanney

C. Cumming ~ Dawson ~ Soligo
R. O'Brien ~ Crouch ~ Rankine

HF. Lukosius ~ Fogarty ~ Neale-Bullen
FF. Rachele ~ Thilthorpe ~ Keays

B. Curtin ~ Lalor ~ Milera ~ Taylor
S. Pedlar

Em. Laird, Butts, Berry, Murphy, Ryan, Edwards, Nankervis, Sholl, Dowling, Cook, Walker, Smith

It’s a promising sign that I like your listed 23 and yet I have a different one (noting that I think we land Cumming and ANB but not Luko)

Worrell ~ Butts ~ Michalanney
Hinge ~ Murray ~ Nankervis
Sholl ~ Dawson ~ Cumming
ROB ~ Izak ~ Soligo
Taylor ~ Fogarty ~ Keays
Rachele ~ Thilthorpe ~ Walker
Neale-Bullen ~ Curtin ~ Crouch ~ Lalor/Pedlar ~ Milera (sub)

Notable depth: Pedlar/Lalor, Keane, Bond, Ryan, Laird, Berry, Dowling, Edwards, Murphy

 

[Eddie Murphy]

Not sure Bond starts next year in the 22, particularly after only getting a one-year deal

Someone like Lalor would have to prove their fitness, too (in comparison to say Jagga or Draper, who’d be a day 1 walk up start)

Agree. Bond is good depth if Max goes down, or a half back goes down meaning Max plays the half back role. But Max is more dynamic in the lock-down role, and IMO we’re better off having an extra half back (Nankervis, Milera) over Bond.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Without Cumming and Luko, this would be mine:

B: Michalanney, Murray, Worrell
HB: Hinge, Butts/Keane, Nankervis
C: Sholl, Dawson, Curtin
HF: Rachele, Fogarty, ANB
F: Keays, Thilthorpe, Walker
R: ROB, Soligo, Rankine
I/C: Crouch, Taylor, Dowling, Milera
Sub: Pedlar

Luko and Cumming would push Pedlar and Dowling out, with Milera going to sub

Unfortunately you’d suspect Laird starts the year in the 22 as well, which pushes Milera out and Taylor becomes sub

Pick 4 not considered, given that’s still up in the air as to who it could be

 

[Mostyn]

I think Hamill stays. When he came back he played really well until he got injured. There's a good AFL player in him, minus the injuries. I would keep him anyway.

Yeah, he's just unfortunate that he's out of contract and we have a few of his type.

 

[Mostyn]

I would’ve agreed with you until we signed everyone else up. He might stay if we miss out on Cumming, but otherwise he’s gone. We essentially chose to keep Bond and Berry over him, plus Oscar Ryan plays a similar position and is viewed as having a strong future.

Another factor in Hamill’s demise is electing to get Smith to his games played trigger, which is still one of the most moronic things I can recall.

What was Smith's trigger?

People speak of triggers like it's just the final year - but most are something like "60 games over four years". He could have pretty much got it based on previous years, we don't know

 

[hugecannon]

Unless we are only planning to draft 2 players.

This would be disappointing, with the amount of dead weight on the list and the depth of the draft, I really hope they’re trying to get 3-4 players including Welsh into the squad.

Hit the draft hard this year and then reevaluate the list before next years draft.

 

[rabidcrow]

Yeah, he's just unfortunate that he's out of contract and we have a few of his type.

Jimmy Rowe! The wrong bloke with out a chair when the music stopped - not a great player but still better than Ned and Murphy


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[Checksider]

Regards to Laird being down the road to past it, was interesting listening to Campo a couple of times lately.

Spoken about how tough it was when he had to stop playing Scott Thompson and telling him he's lost parts of his game, the games getting past him. And how Thommo couldn't see it/didn't want to.

So they just kept playing him. Who tf runs the show there?

 

[Crow till I die]

Agree. Let's hope Nicks is forced to pick the actual best 22 with whatever this Director of Coaching BS is.

FB. Worrell ~ Murray ~ Bond
HB. Hinge ~ Keane ~ Michalanney

C. Cumming ~ Dawson ~ Soligo
R. O'Brien ~ Crouch ~ Rankine

HF. Lukosius ~ Fogarty ~ Neale-Bullen
FF. Rachele ~ Thilthorpe ~ Keays

B. Curtin ~ Lalor ~ Milera ~ Taylor
S. Pedlar

Em. Laird, Butts, Berry, Murphy, Ryan, Edwards, Nankervis, Sholl, Dowling, Cook, Walker, Smith

Back pocket worries me with Bond. He looks to be a very likely lock down type but more around the ball. I would have hinge in the back pocket with Worrell in the other back pocket and Cumming to his best spot at half back. Then Luko to a wing

 

[glengowan]

Watched Cumming last night. Good pressure, but another fumbler who misses clutch goals. We do not need more of these players.

 

[Bob Neil]

What about Reidy from Fremantle? Wouldn’t he fit our needs perfectly? Young and developing so get him in and let him battle with ROB for first ruck duties. Stuck behind two stars at Freo.

 

[Danger in Texas]

What about Reidy from Fremantle? Wouldn’t he fit our needs perfectly? Young and developing so get him in and let him battle with ROB for first ruck duties. Stuck behind two stars at Freo.

I’d prefer Knobel

 

[1970crow]

Incredible the difference now they aren't negotiating with Geelong.

We couldn’t have taken the Bowes deal because we had to waste our last list spot on Sloane’s pity extension. Unreal that at the same time they’re playing hardball with us over Rankine, they’re sending 7 and a player to clear TPP pressure. Wouldn’t losing izaak have achieved the same goal? It’s not Cats, it’s us.

 

[Cromulant]

Watched Cumming last night. Good pressure, but another fumbler who misses clutch goals. We do not need more of these players.

Given his lack of continuity I reckon he was gassed pretty early.

Fatigue leads to fumbles etc, hopefully that can change.

 

[Vader]

Absolutely... though we should just delist him & keep Hamill instead.

Who is of more use going forward!

No argument here!

 

[bettingonbetts]

Watched Cumming last night. Good pressure, but another fumbler who misses clutch goals. We do not need more of these players.

Cumming I would consider normally a clean player. His point was a one off and it happens
He would add a lot to our team and I actually believe he is what we need
People are saying wing but I think he will vastly improve our backline

 

[Tex Danger]

Cumming I would consider normally a clean player. His point was a one off and it happens
He would add a lot to our team and I actually believe he is what we need
People are saying wing but I think he will vastly improve our backline

Cumming and Minge is a good half back due (pun intended but actually serious)

I didn’t really rate the hinge move to the wing so much, liked him a lot more off half back.

 

[FR0GGY]

Regards to Laird being down the road to past it, was interesting listening to Campo a couple of times lately.

Spoken about how tough it was when he had to stop playing Scott Thompson and telling him he's lost parts of his game, the games getting past him. And how Thommo couldn't see it/didn't want to.

Heard Dermie the other day saying at hawthorn his standing vertical jump was 76cm by the time he got to collingwood it was down to 43cm (or 33cm?) amazing how much your body declines.

 

[Eddie Murphy]

Cumming I would consider normally a clean player. His point was a one off and it happens
He would add a lot to our team and I actually believe he is what we need
People are saying wing but I think he will vastly improve our backline

Yep wasn’t the cleanest last night from him but across his career he’s shown he can be clean and a good distributor. If anything, I think last night showed he can handle heat and get dirty winning a hard ball, which is a positive.

 

[bettingonbetts]

Cumming and Minge is a good half back due (pun intended but actually serious)

I didn’t really rate the hinge move to the wing so much, liked him a lot more off half back.

But yeah agreed, he is a lot more comfortable in the backline. Would rather have Jr running on the wing if we are pushing someone from the backline

Yep wasn’t the cleanest last night from him but across his career he’s shown he can be clean and a good distributor. If anything, I think last night showed he can handle heat and get dirty winning a hard ball, which is a positive.

Definitely. He’s clean, loves a tackle and is efficient. Get him in!!!!

 

[crows dude]

I’m hoping we get all of ANB, Luko and Cumming

F. ANB. Thilthorpe Rachele
Hf. Luko Fogarty Rankine
C. Cumming Crouch. Dowling
Hb Curtin. Murray Nankervis
B. Michlanney Butts/Keane Wozza
R. O’Brien Dawson. Soligo
I. Walker. Hinge Keays Laird Sholl

 

[DJ75]

We couldn’t have taken the Bowes deal because we had to waste our last list spot on Sloane’s pity extension. Unreal that at the same time they’re playing hardball with us over Rankine, they’re sending 7 and a player to clear TPP pressure. Wouldn’t losing izaak have achieved the same goal? It’s not Cats, it’s us.

Check the GC trades with Geelong. They consistently gift Geelong absurdly one sided trades.
It's more Geelong than us.

 

[crow2crow]

Check the GC trades with Geelong. They consistently gift Geelong absurdly one sided trades.
It's more Geelong than us.

corruption