List Mgmt. 2024 National Draft - November 20-21

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I think Smilie slides to us at pick 52
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pick 48. Charlie West (195cm key fwd, SA)
Pick 53: Will Hoare (195cm key def, Essendon VFL)
Pick 57: Nathan Sulzberger (187 mid/fwd)


But given our interest in Nicholls, would we select two players and leave him to go to Geelong at pick 55? Not sure. They may make a choice who they prefer.
 
Impressive work on calculations, but there will be live trading. Dons will most likely have traded out 28 and 31 before then - added some points and some Future picks and GC will have probably added some points too. Saints will most likely just read through their draft board and bid if they're at 1 rather than trying to be tactical as there's very little likelihood of a tactical gain for them.

Take Brisbanes picks out for matching and the Bombers and GC picks move up and have more points, they match Ashcroft and 7&8 become 8&9. It’s all subject to change. It’s more for the shits and giggles, but it does neither of them any favors. Especially if you have the player in question at your pick.
 

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would like to see James Barrat slide to our first pick - his profile reads like a younger Brayden Maynard.
 
pick 48. Charlie West (195cm key fwd, SA)
Pick 53: Will Hoare (195cm key def, Essendon VFL)
Pick 57: Nathan Sulzberger (187 mid/fwd)


But given our interest in Nicholls, would we select two players and leave him to go to Geelong at pick 55? Not sure. They may make a choice who they prefer.
I'll be happy if West is our first pick, the other 2 can be whoever they wish
 
Pardon my ignorance: how many picks are able to be selected tonight knowing Collingwood will be (sadly) conspicuous by its absence. I usually love this time of year as selections bring hope. I know we’ve recruited very well with Houston, Membrey and Perryman but I do like the anticipation of hope of who we might pick up. Given Collingwood is not featuring tonight it makes it a bit less meaningful. Having said that let me say this…..sorry thought I was a politician for a moment 😉
Having said that I’m looking forward to who we might draft and hope they add to our team (they’ll certainly lower the average age so any future recruit starts well).
 
Take Brisbanes picks out for matching and the Bombers and GC picks move up and have more points, they match Ashcroft and 7&8 become 8&9. It’s all subject to change. It’s more for the shits and giggles, but it does neither of them any favors. Especially if you have the player in question at your pick.

I find it hard to see a likely scenario where it would help Saints.

I'd like clubs to bid honestly without factoring anything else in, but bloody unlikely.

There's often an advantage in not bidding.
Tiges marketing department want their boy to go pick 1 - and there will be no gain for them in more Brisbane picks getting wiped out - it'll just benefit other clubs.
North are very likely to offer their F2 for Brisbane's 27, so wouldn't be interested in bidding. And even if they don't do that, tactically for them moving 62 up is about the number of picks used - they'd probably be better off with a later pick for Ashcroft and Brisbane matching with more junk picks than them being forced to use decent picks to match. Etc...
 
pick 48. Charlie West (195cm key fwd, SA)
Pick 53: Will Hoare (195cm key def, Essendon VFL)
Pick 57: Nathan Sulzberger (187 mid/fwd)


But given our interest in Nicholls, would we select two players and leave him to go to Geelong at pick 55? Not sure. They may make a choice who they prefer.
Espn, probably the worst mock and player ratings going around so factor that in.
 
It would be in st kilda's best interest to force essendon to overpay, since they have few picks that follows essendon's in couple of the rounds.
 
Pardon my ignorance: how many picks are able to be selected tonight knowing Collingwood will be (sadly) conspicuous by its absence. I usually love this time of year as selections bring hope. I know we’ve recruited very well with Houston, Membrey and Perryman but I do like the anticipation of hope of who we might pick up. Given Collingwood is not featuring tonight it makes it a bit less meaningful. Having said that let me say this…..sorry thought I was a politician for a moment
Having said that I’m looking forward to who we might draft and hope they add to our team (they’ll certainly lower the average age so any future recruit starts well).

First round only tonight, I don’t like the split draft nights either although understand why they do it. Seems crazy to exclude clubs and also make draftees sit through two nights waiting.
Think you could knock out the draft in one night, just do the interviews with the draftees Picture in Picture while it’s all going on. Start at 6pm. Only the full nuffs watch this, so they’ll tune in early.
 

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Mojorisin Phantom:

My final 3 round phantom
Edited x2 to remove late night stuff ups.

1. Richmond - Sam Lalor
2. North Melbourne - Finn O'Sullivan
3. Carlton - Jagga Smith
4. Adelaide - Sid Draper
5. Lions - Levi Ashcroft (Match)
6. Melbourne - Alix Tauru
7. Richmond - Harvey Langford
8. Suns - Leo Lombard (Match)
9. St Kilda - Tobie Travaglia
10. St Kilda - Josh Smillie
11. Melbourne - Bo Allan
12. Richmond - Jobe Shanahan
13. Richmond - Murphy Reid
14. West Coast - Xavier Lindsay
15. Essendon - Isaac Kako (Match)
16. Port Adelaide - Joe Berry
17. Lions - Sam Marshall (Match)
18. Fremantle - Taj Hotton
19. GWS - Cooper Hynes
20. GWS - Oliver Hannaford
21. Western Bulldogs - Jesse Datolli
22. Richmond - Harry Armstrong
23. Sydney - Jack Whitlock
24. Richmond - Jonty Faull
25. GWS - Matt Whitlock
26. Sydney - Luke Trainor
27. Richmond - Harry Oliver
28. Richmond - Alex Dodson
29. Western Bulldogs - Christian Moraes
30. West Coast - Hamish Davis
31. Port Adelaide - Ned Bowman
32. Fremantle - Harry O'Farrell
33. Carlton - Ben Camporeale (match)
34. St Kilda - Jasper Alger
35. Hawthorn - James Barrat
36. Western Bulldogs - Angus Clarke
37. Port Adelaide - Noah Mraz
38. GWS - Hugh Boxshall
39. Essendon - Luke Urquhart
40. Sydney - Jack Ough
41. Geelong - Lachie Jaques
42. Essendon - Kayle Gerreyn
43. St Kilda - Cody Angove
44. Western Bulldogs - Sam Davidson
45. Port Adelaide - Tom Sims
46. Sydney - Joel Cochran (Match)
47. St Kilda - Lennox Hoffman (Match)
48. Collingwood - Clancy Dennis
49. Essendon - Jacob Molier
50. Essendon - Lucca Grego
51. Collingwood - Charlie Nicholls
52. GWS - Will Hayes
53. Geelong - Xavier Ivisic
54. Lions - Riley Bice
55. Collingwood - Rhys Unwin
 
Espn, probably the worst mock and player ratings going around so factor that in.
pick 48. Charlie West (195cm key fwd, SA)
Pick 53: Will Hoare (195cm key def, Essendon VFL)
Pick 57: Nathan Sulzberger (187 mid/fwd)


But given our interest in Nicholls, would we select two players and leave him to go to Geelong at pick 55? Not sure. They may make a choice who they prefer.
Makes it really clear that we really benefit on a bid for Kako earlier than ESPN predicts - need their picks in the 40's and 50's to be used up in the bid.
 
Mojorisin Phantom:

My final 3 round phantom
Edited x2 to remove late night stuff ups.

1. Richmond - Sam Lalor
2. North Melbourne - Finn O'Sullivan
3. Carlton - Jagga Smith
4. Adelaide - Sid Draper
5. Lions - Levi Ashcroft (Match)
6. Melbourne - Alix Tauru
7. Richmond - Harvey Langford
8. Suns - Leo Lombard (Match)
9. St Kilda - Tobie Travaglia
10. St Kilda - Josh Smillie
11. Melbourne - Bo Allan
12. Richmond - Jobe Shanahan
13. Richmond - Murphy Reid
14. West Coast - Xavier Lindsay
15. Essendon - Isaac Kako (Match)
16. Port Adelaide - Joe Berry
17. Lions - Sam Marshall (Match)
18. Fremantle - Taj Hotton
19. GWS - Cooper Hynes
20. GWS - Oliver Hannaford
21. Western Bulldogs - Jesse Datolli
22. Richmond - Harry Armstrong
23. Sydney - Jack Whitlock
24. Richmond - Jonty Faull
25. GWS - Matt Whitlock
26. Sydney - Luke Trainor
27. Richmond - Harry Oliver
28. Richmond - Alex Dodson
29. Western Bulldogs - Christian Moraes
30. West Coast - Hamish Davis
31. Port Adelaide - Ned Bowman
32. Fremantle - Harry O'Farrell
33. Carlton - Ben Camporeale (match)
34. St Kilda - Jasper Alger
35. Hawthorn - James Barrat
36. Western Bulldogs - Angus Clarke
37. Port Adelaide - Noah Mraz
38. GWS - Hugh Boxshall
39. Essendon - Luke Urquhart
40. Sydney - Jack Ough
41. Geelong - Lachie Jaques
42. Essendon - Kayle Gerreyn
43. St Kilda - Cody Angove
44. Western Bulldogs - Sam Davidson
45. Port Adelaide - Tom Sims
46. Sydney - Joel Cochran (Match)
47. St Kilda - Lennox Hoffman (Match)
48. Collingwood - Clancy Dennis
49. Essendon - Jacob Molier
50. Essendon - Lucca Grego
51. Collingwood - Charlie Nicholls
52. GWS - Will Hayes
53. Geelong - Xavier Ivisic
54. Lions - Riley Bice
55. Collingwood - Rhys Unwin

Don’t mind that one.


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On Reef and AJ. I’d delist AJ and commit to redrafting him in the rookie draft, hoping someone else grabs him instead, and offer Reef a 1 year deal, committing to developing him in defence for the next 12 months.

Hopefully other clubs would see value in taking on AJ for a 12 month rookie deal (looking at you Melbourne you ****ing rabble of a club).

Someone just told me that Melbourne might take AJ in the rookie draft.

Make this happen and I’m officially Nostradamus.
 
I find it hard to see a likely scenario where it would help Saints.

I'd like clubs to bid honestly without factoring anything else in, but bloody unlikely.

There's often an advantage in not bidding.
Tiges marketing department want their boy to go pick 1 - and there will be no gain for them in more Brisbane picks getting wiped out - it'll just benefit other clubs.
North are very likely to offer their F2 for Brisbane's 27, so wouldn't be interested in bidding. And even if they don't do that, tactically for them moving 62 up is about the number of picks used - they'd probably be better off with a later pick for Ashcroft and Brisbane matching with more junk picks than them being forced to use decent picks to match. Etc...

It doesn’t hinder them either and costs them nothing.
 
The afl need to introduce trading of a player on draft night

What I mean for example
Collingwood.draft jack ginnivan pick 30
Hawthorn wanted him so they offer pick 33..a future 3rd and even a roomi pick

So his drafted and traded on the same night
 
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