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[shinboner magic]

Any champs games this weekend??

 

[roos_fanatic08]

noobermensch Im hearing that Smillie’s disposal is quite ordinary. Confirm or deny?

When in space he is a beautiful and long kick of the footy. Can be prone to throw it on the boot and bomb it when there is pressure around the contest his handballing is a bit meh.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Any champs games this weekend??

WA Vs Allies from 12 today.

Honestly can’t get too excited about it, this is probably the worst WA side on paper that I’ve ever seen.

 

[Sphynx]

Cooper Hynes with another standout performance today . 35 disposals & a goal … really pushing his name forward .

On limited minutes also as the champs players were rested.

Spent 30 minutes on the bench.

 

[shinboner magic]

On limited minutes also as the champs players were rested.

Spent 30 minutes on the bench.

So I gather he’s a mid by the disposal count - what type is he and height / speed

 

[Chewy Chewman]

WA Vs Allies from 12 today.

Honestly can’t get too excited about it, this is probably the worst WA side on paper that I’ve ever seen.

Although Dan Curtins brother is named in defence.

Looks a likely type for the 2025 draft.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Cooper Hynes with another standout performance today . 35 disposals & a goal … really pushing his name forward .

The Dandy duo in Hynes and Langford are two of my favourite players in this years draft. Hynes is a bit more rough around the edges and a bit less athletic than Langford but then two of them have incredible upside.

Langford kind of reminds me of Goater in some ways. Langford already has a more developed tank though.

So I gather he’s a mid by the disposal count - what type is he and height / speed

Hynes is a 190cm mid who can also play lead up roles in the forward line. Hard worker between the arcs, equally capable at getting the footy inside and outside the contest. He is averaging 26.4 disposals, 3.3 tackles, 4.6 marks and 5.7 inside 50’s per game this year.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Yes, and while Ollie is a good two way runner, this guy is a lot better, in fact I'll go on to say he's bloody good and a lot of improvement to come, his name, Finn O'Sullivan. I know a lot of posters go on about smallish mids and that we have enough of them but this guy is very good, runs both ways and for a player of his size {182cm} is good overhead.

O’Sullivan or Smith I feel will be the best fits for our current midfield.

O’Sullivan with his running power or Smith with his silliness and speed.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

When in space he is a beautiful and long kick of the footy. Can be prone to throw it on the boot and bomb it when there is pressure around the contest his handballing is a bit meh.

Who are your top 3 players for smarts who have the skills (not necessarily 10/10) to back up their footy nous?

 

[Zondor]

CCJ trade only looks bad in hindsight??? It was a stinker at the time! And plenty of people knew it!!!!

C’mon Vapour. We got a freebie 2nd Rounder from the AFL the following year. That alone makes a shit trade palatable. I’ve got plenty of other excuses that explain away the myriad of poor decisions the club has made over the past 5 years. Thanks to the Turd Polishers that post on this forum. :stern look

Reason for Edit: You work it out. :stern look

 

[noobermensch]

noobermensch Im hearing that Smillie’s disposal is quite ordinary. Confirm or deny?

Deny. First I'll say that I'm not an expert biomechanist, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

I think his kicking action is fluid and smooth. When he's balanced and punches through the footy he gets good penetration. I think he gets lazy on his kicks at times, and has shanked a few under pressure.

I made this same point in my last video. Harley is currently ranked as one of the most damaging kicks by foot in the AFL. At this time last year lots of draft watchers wanted to rank Jed Walter ahead of Harley due to questions about his kicking. There are reasons why disposal efficiency can suffer at junior level, one of which is the options you're kicking to are not at the same level. There are no Charlie Curnow's in the Talent League.

I tend to get most concerned when a kid has a dodgy kicking technique, a hitch or bad ball drop etc. But even then, recruiters say that kicking is one of the most fixable skills in the game.

 

[DuckYeah]

Deny. First I'll say that I'm not an expert biomechanist.

I think his kicking action is fluid and smooth. When he's balanced and punches through the footy he gets good penetration. I think he gets lazy on his kicks at times, and has shanked a few under pressure.

I made this same point in my last video. Harley is currently ranked as one of the most damaging kicks by foot in the AFL. At this time last year lots of draft watchers wanted to rank Jed Walter ahead of Harley due to questions about his kicking. There are reasons why disposal efficiency can suffer at junior level, one of which is the options you're kicking to are not at the same level. There are no Charlie Curnow's in the Talent League.

I tend to get most concerned when a kid has a dodgy kicking technique, a hitch or bad ball drop etc. But even then, recruiters say that kicking is one of the most fixable skills in the game.

Im being sold on him at number 1 pick.

 

[noobermensch]

If you want an example of a prospect who's kicking skills will likely harm his draft rank, check out Ben Camporeale. He has both a weird ball drop and a bent knee hitch. More than half of his kicks end up helicoptering wildly way off where he wanted it to go.

 

[Sphynx]

So I gather he’s a mid by the disposal count - what type is he and height / speed

He’s a natural forward and was a key forward/half forward in younger age groups.

Not your typical high accumulating mid.

Will Day might be a good comparison.

 

[shinboner magic]

C’mon Vapour. We got a freebie 2nd Rounder from the AFL the following year. That alone makes a shit trade palatable. I’ve got plenty of other excuses that explain away the myriad of poor decisions the club has made over the past 5 decisions. Thanks to the Turd Polishers that post on this forum. :stern look

Big men take time - by 2040 he’ll be up to 5 touches a game

 

[noobermensch]

I do have a Hynes vid. I might not have posted it here, can't recall:



I imagine I'll end up doing more given his current hot streak of form

 

[roos_fanatic08]

If you want an example of a prospect who's kicking skills will likely harm his draft rank, check out Ben Camporeale. He has both a weird ball drop and a bent knee hitch. More than half of his kicks end up helicoptering wildly way off where he wanted it to go.

One of the most bizarre kicking actions I’ve ever seen. Don’t really understand how his and Lucas kicking action are so different.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Who are your top 3 players for smarts who have the skills (not necessarily 10/10) to back up their footy nous?

1. Jagga Smith
2. Finn O’Sullivan
3. Levi Ashcroft or Josh Smillie

Draper/Moraes next rung below.

 

[Arden]

But even then, recruiters say that kicking is one of the most fixable skills in the game.

We turn good kicks into shit kicks at North, not the other way around.

 

[Steele7]

If Smillie ends up being a Pick 3 behind Smith & O’Sullivan. Could trade out pick 1 for pick 3 & another 1st round pick. Then Smillie + KPF

 

[roos_fanatic08]

If Smillie ends up being a Pick 3 behind Smith & O’Sullivan. Could trade out pick 1 for pick 3 & another 1st round pick. Then Smillie + KPF

I don’t think Smith has down enough to push up into the top tier yet I still have big questions marks on the defensive side of his game.

 

[shinboner magic]

I don’t think Smith has down enough to push up into the top tier yet I still have big questions marks on the defensive side of his game.

Out if the top few mids who has the most balanced game , between attack and defence

 

[andana]

Will Brodie

17

Will Brodie

Age

25

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

is still running around in the wafl getting 30 disposals a game. Big bodied mid.
Must be coming out of contract.

 

[DuckYeah]

Will Brodie is still running around in the wafl getting 30 disposals a game. Big bodied mid.
Must be coming out of contract.

2026. Signed a 4 year deal with Fremantle

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

Although Dan Curtins brother is named in defence.

Looks a likely type for the 2025 draft.

So not on an AFL list before 2026 and yet still half a chance to establish himself at AFL level before his older brother.