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Analysis 2024 National Draft
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I can only confidently say its FOS as no.1
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No, I'm not. Really his ball use is the only reason he's not a clear number 1 pick this year. He's inconsistent by foot and prone to having off games where his ball use falls off a cliff a bit. It was a fairly frequent point of discussion on the draft boards - As I said though, I'm of the opinion that his kicking will improve significantly as he gets stronger through his legs in an AFL environment.
He's still a gun player, I'd be very pleased if we picked him if we're not set on Draper.
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Inconsistent, not bad. His best is very good, he just has games every now and then where it's sub par.Not a good ball user. I just spilt my beer
Agree Nick Daicos is a generational player an amazing talent.
And Draper is consistent by foot
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No, he's worse by foot than Jagga. They'd both be getting selected for more reasons than their kicking talent.
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This is my impression as well. I think part of it is also down to playing almost exclusively as an inside mid. Even the best kicks of the footy don't have great efficiency numbers when playing that position. By no means am I saying Jagga is on his level as a kick, but N. Daicos moving to the midfield is a great example of this.
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Peak Toby McLean was a bit of a weapon though. Injuries ravaged him post 2017/18 from memory and he came back a bit of a sh**truck inside bull. Had totally lost his dazzle and evasive abilities.
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Smith and Langford I think.
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Has that sixth sense for where the ball is going/should go like Daicos. That's where the comparison ends for me.
Outside of that, I see bits of Cotchin, Butters, Warner and even Sam Mitchell.
He just sees the game really well which is so hard to teach. Always thinking three moves ahead of where the play is going and finds the best option to get his team forward with efficiency.
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To my eye, Jagga's kicking is very technically sound. Its not a god given weapon, its damage mainly comes from his ability to consistently make a good decision. He doesn't have it in him to use his kicking to create an opportunity, he just picks the right one when an option presents itself.
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This. Spot on.
I still cannot understand why FOS is rated highly.
He is undersized as a mid (182cm), not particularly fast, and his movements look very Dow-esque to me (nice side step in traffic, but no burst forward). His stats went backwards from last year to this, and aside from kicking 5 goals in 4 games are underwhelming, particularly compared with other prospects.
He also had two injuries this year and seemed to struggle with those.
His 'best attributes' seem to translate badly to me. 'Stoppage craft' but he's not a accumulator? Overhead marking, but he's 182cm? Goal-kicking, but mostly when playing forward (where he doesn't get the ball).
He strikes me as exactly the sort of player we (and other teams - not just us) have whiffed on in the past. Has good athleticism, but doesn't really have a core AFL skillset and just doesn't translate up.
I'm no expert, but from what I've seen I'd rather Draper or Smith, and probably also Langford. In all 3 cases it's clear what they will be at AFL level. Draper is fast, a little hectic but he'll get the ball and add pace. Smith just gets the footy, a lot - he's a slightly different version of Walsh. Langford could be Dan Houston or similar.
Given we've traded next year's first as well as our own to get this, I really hope we just take the safe option. Throwing any of those guys into a finals calibre team where they can learn the craft as a part of a midfield that already features Cripps/Walsh/Hewett/Cerra to do the heavy lifting seems a no-brainer and a great way to keep our midfield sustainable post-Cripps etc.
He is undersized as a mid (182cm), not particularly fast, and his movements look very Dow-esque to me (nice side step in traffic, but no burst forward). His stats went backwards from last year to this, and aside from kicking 5 goals in 4 games are underwhelming, particularly compared with other prospects.
He also had two injuries this year and seemed to struggle with those.
His 'best attributes' seem to translate badly to me. 'Stoppage craft' but he's not a accumulator? Overhead marking, but he's 182cm? Goal-kicking, but mostly when playing forward (where he doesn't get the ball).
He strikes me as exactly the sort of player we (and other teams - not just us) have whiffed on in the past. Has good athleticism, but doesn't really have a core AFL skillset and just doesn't translate up.
I'm no expert, but from what I've seen I'd rather Draper or Smith, and probably also Langford. In all 3 cases it's clear what they will be at AFL level. Draper is fast, a little hectic but he'll get the ball and add pace. Smith just gets the footy, a lot - he's a slightly different version of Walsh. Langford could be Dan Houston or similar.
Given we've traded next year's first as well as our own to get this, I really hope we just take the safe option. Throwing any of those guys into a finals calibre team where they can learn the craft as a part of a midfield that already features Cripps/Walsh/Hewett/Cerra to do the heavy lifting seems a no-brainer and a great way to keep our midfield sustainable post-Cripps etc.
Jag's so slippery in heavy traffic, any lack of so called leg-speed weakness will be invisible.
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Where did you get Jagga’s weight from?Cheers, couldn’t find any results other than the top 10 for all events
Jagga by a mile
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Similar to my view on him, which is why I'm keen to see his progress with it as he builds his body. With a bit more power/penetration he may have the ability to hit those risky targets he sometimes unsuccessfully looks for. I think he's the best brain in the draft, but someone like Langford or Lalor has considerably more power in their kicks which opens up other options on the field for them.
Thats Daicos' biggest weapon, he can hit a dart from 50m away despite being a lightly framed player. It's the best of both worlds.
Nick also faster and kicked more goals. Obscene he wasn’t 1.
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I agree, I do believe that there is a great player in there if it comes together for him. But hes definitely the one where a team picks him, he busts, and they just say to themselves "what on Earth were we thinking?". Not saying he will bust, but if he does, the signs were all there.
Apparently the Ainter's aren't happy with Cal's Phantom over on their Board. Such a shame for Ross that his flatout gut busting triumph over our reserves cost him 5&6 and 2 Tier A mids.
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I don't get this at all. FOS has a 2.98 20m sprint to Draper 2.94 and Draper is lightning. From my viewing FOS is also all about forward running. Very seldom goes backwards. Very attacking mindset from wherever he is on the ground.
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