Analysis 2024 National Draft

Who will be our first selection on night 2 of the Draft?


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No,

We get Pick 38 ( Ben Camporeale) and pick 69 ( 57 points)

Pick 38 (465 points) 20% discount = 372

Pick 40 (429) - 372 = 57

This is why we will trade this pick out if the bid comes

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Riley Beveridge said if we get a bid on Ben we will trade that pick out and match it to select Ben and then immediately trade back in to get another selection
 
No,

We get Pick 38 ( Ben Camporeale) and pick 69 ( 57 points)

Pick 38 (465 points) 20% discount = 372

Pick 40 (429) - 372 = 57

This is why we will trade this pick out if the bid comes

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The discount is fixed at 197 points for any bids after pick 18, so it would be:

We get Pick 38 (Ben Camporeale) and pick 59 (161 points)

Pick 38 (465 points) less fixed discount (197) = 268 points needed

Give Pick 40 (429) - less cost of 268 = 161 remaining - pick 40 slides to pick 59
 

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No,

We get Pick 38 ( Ben Camporeale) and pick 69 ( 57 points)

Pick 38 (465 points) 20% discount = 372

Pick 40 (429) - 372 = 57

This is why we will trade this pick out if the bid comes

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The discount is a fixed value (197 points) after round 1.
 
The discount is fixed at 197 points for any bids after pick 18, so it would be:

We get Pick 38 (Ben Camporeale) and pick 59 (161 points)

Pick 38 (465 points) less fixed discount (197) = 268 points needed

Give Pick 40 (429) - less cost of 268 = 161 remaining - pick 40 slides to pick 59
Ugh. Forgot that rule.

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Gutsy trade by North, but credit to them for making their move now. Gone are the days of waiting and/or trading back for most situations.

If say, Richmond traded their original Pick 11 to North for their F1 and North picked their CHB Whitlock, it would seem ok. Still a gamble, but ok.

Here, Whitlock drifts a bit, so North actually get a bonus very low F2 and the same player Whitlock.

Good move by both Clubs, and their unique situations. North are clearly hitting the GO button. Even if they've given up a Top 5 F1, they've got their 1st Rd CHB in now. And Richmond have clearly committed to 5 years of full patience.
 
I am a bit confused. Can someone categorically point to our ability to trade out 40 if a bid comes earlier for Ben?

I had thought you can’t trade out at the moment a bid comes if you want to then match.
 
Having a look at how this might go...

28. ?? (won't be Richmond)
29. Dogs
30. Weagles
31. Dogs
32. Saints
33. Port
34. Freo
35. Hawks
36. GWS
37. *
38. Port
39. *

Dogs - prob won't bid on Ben, likes of: Moraes, Ough, Dolan, Alger, Davis
Weagles - Davis would have to be in their sights. Otherwise a tall Shanahan, Whitlock. Unlikely to bid on Ben.
Saints - almost certainly after a mid, very surprised they didn't pick one earlier. Maybe Gross or Davis. Ben definite possibility, and not just out of spite.
Port - Hoping Shanahan or Whitlock will fall to them. Locals Dodson & Clarke maybe. And yes, Ben a possibility.
Freo - Davis if available. Maybe Gerreyn. Doubt they'd bid on Ben.
Haw - Moraes, Ough, Davis. Unlikely to bid on Ben.
GWS - Dunno...Maybe a ruck? Dodson, Gerreyn. Or a mid... and Ben would be up there.
* - Could see a bid here. Think they'll just go best available, need everything. One pick at least will go tall.

I think there will be a bid on Ben, just because there's a lack of quality mids remaining.

So... a phantom 28-40:

28. ?? (won't be Richmond) - Shanahan
29. Dogs - Moraes
30. Weagles - J Whitlock
31. Dogs - Ough
32. Saints - Gross
33. Port - Dodson
34. Freo - Davis
35. Hawks - Dolan
36. GWS - Clarke
37. * - Sims
38. Port - Gerreyn
39. * - Jaques

If we've still got 40 at this point, we have several options - Mraz, O'Farrell, Barrat. Alger also a tantalising option. However, I fear that a bid on Ben will come in that 35-39 range. Hopefully we can trade out and back in and have another pick in the mid-40s and still find at least one of this group available. Or Dennis, West, Nicholls or Burmeister should be around still.
 
My order of preference of those left I consider in the relative range. Really love Jaques and Johnson as players but not sure we're going to invest in another half back with our pick. Really really hope we don't see a Ben bid before our pick.

Shanahan
Gerreyn
O'Farrell
Johnson
Jaques
Alger
Dennis
J.Whitlock
Clarke
Mraz
Ough
Gross
Moraes

How I rank them as players not accounting for a needs basis would be a bit different but we're a very good chance to get a good player if a Ben bid comes after 40.
 
If a bid comes in at 32, I would do a deal with the Lions

Trade pick 40 for 49 and 56, 49 and our 55 covers the bid

After we obtain Ben, go back to the Lions

Trade 63, 64, 67 ( which come in a little) for 47


Essentially we only go back 7 spots
Depends how many picks Brisbane intend to take I suppose. They started with 6 spots available. Maybe 4 picks? They've taken 2. This deal gives them 40 and 46 to use on those picks (an upgrade on 46, 47), so sounds fair, I guess.
 

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Depends how many picks Brisbane intend to take I suppose. They started with 6 spots available. Maybe 4 picks? They've taken 2. This deal gives them 40 and 46 to use on those picks (an upgrade on 46, 47), so sounds fair, I guess.

They do have another couple of academy kids, made 1 is bid worthy, but we could shuffle more later picks to balance rule requirements
 
I am a bit confused. Can someone categorically point to our ability to trade out 40 if a bid comes earlier for Ben?

I had thought you can’t trade out at the moment a bid comes if you want to then match.
It’s been done in several previous drafts, you can trade out the pick when the bid comes, you just can’t trade back for the same pick
 
Saints - almost certainly after a mid, very surprised they didn't pick one earlier. Maybe Gross or Davis. Ben definite possibility, and not just out of spite.
Travaglia has decent midfield potential, Tauru can certainly get leaner.

Regardless, the Saints have next gen bids coming in, they might not have another active pick.

If we can get permission to use our futures, I would be keen for us to target pick 29. Eagles and whoever is gunning for pick 28 will be chasing a tall, and the quality is still on the board.
 
If we don't go a tall at 38 (if we get to it without a bid) I'd love either of these two. Johnson can play anywhere on the field, Jaques a bit more of a locked in defender imo. That said I think it's highly highly likely we go a tall.




 
I swear if SOS bids on Ben with the amount of quality sliders tonight I'm starting a petition to have him banished to the Linton St rabble forever!
It be Essendon they have Pick 37 and 39 St Kilda they got Pick 32 too early and Tom Gross, Josh Dolan and Hamish Davis will be their also plenty of Forward if they need. I hope we get Harry O’Farrell, Floyd Burmeister, Noah Mraz in that order or if Ruckman Logan Smith is worth a Bidding Gabriel Stumpf our 3rd pick if Ben Camporeale has to be taken.
 
If we don't go a tall at 38 (if we get to it without a bid) I'd love either of these two. Johnson can play anywhere on the field, Jaques a bit more of a locked in defender imo. That said I think it's highly highly likely we go a tall.






Jagga and Jagues in one draft might be a bit too much.
 
Such a risky trade y North

I really like it

They have Sheezel Wardlaw McKercher Duursma Bergman Phillips Archer Goater George Curtis and now FOS. They have more than enough young talent.

This is added to Larkey LDU Simpkin Zuurhaar Xerri Parker McDonald Logue Comben Scott & Daniel.

The time to start moving up is now. They needed a tall forward to develop next to Larkey and they got their man.

They now have all the pieces to start moving up
 

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