Analysis 2024 National Draft

[Aphrodite]

 

[Dunna Heartknee]

Probably out of our reach but have a look at the kick and how fast it travels, in the Metro V Country game he shifted forward and had a massive impact. There's a lot to like about Langford, it looks an even draft he could possible go 5- 15 range.

 

[Michael Jezz]

Motlop is a low production, slow goal sneak. We could do much better imo. He's basically Owies 2.0 they just do their damage in a slightly different way.

There's 3 small forwards I'd take in this draft that I'd back to be better than either within 24 months

...oh please motlop can crumb and finish and allude a tackle, Owies is limited in all 3 aspects and is a find the hole, set shot specialist

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

...oh please motlop can crumb and finish and allude a tackle, Owies is limited in all 3 aspects and is a find the hole, set shot specialist

I'm not a believer

 

[Ninja Worrier]

Probably out of our reach but have a look at the kick and how fast it travels, in the Metro V Country game he shifted forward and had a massive impact. There's a lot to like about Langford, it looks an even draft he could possible go 5- 15 range.

Good player, I don't see us getting a look at him

 

[Footyfreak31]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1190479...-in-on-deal-does-veteran-eagle-look-elsewhere

Top-10 contender Tobie Travaglia, who enjoyed an excellent carnival for Vic Country, will play VFL for Carlton this weekend.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1190479...-in-on-deal-does-veteran-eagle-look-elsewhere

Top-10 contender Tobie Travaglia, who enjoyed an excellent carnival for Vic Country, will play VFL for Carlton this weekend.

My dream is a Berry, Travaglia, Ben and Lucas as a haul this year.

Would set us up so well for 2025 and the future. Id trade fringe senior players to secure the two of them. Serious players.

 

[Jimmae]

Vanishingly little mention of Taj Hotton in this thread so far, if the knee is OK he's exactly what we need as a forward/mid option. He's obviously slid from the top 5 and likely even out of the top 10, so he's in range.

Probably out of our reach but have a look at the kick and how fast it travels, in the Metro V Country game he shifted forward and had a massive impact. There's a lot to like about Langford, it looks an even draft he could possible go 5- 15 range.

Looks like the player some draft speculators were hoping Marchbank could be, even has 22 on his back!

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Vanishingly little mention of Taj Hotton in this thread so far, if the knee is OK he's exactly what we need as a forward/mid option. He's obviously slid from the top 5 and likely even out of the top 10, so he's in range.


Looks like the player some draft speculators were hoping Marchbank could be, even has 22 on his back!

Still 5th on my list of preferred candidates around our range. I do worry about his ACL injury though as a player that so heavily relied on his lateral movement and change in pace/direction to find space in tight pockets. Imo he's a similar prospect to Elijah in that regard, taken Lij a few years to seemingly find his power and agility again after looking absolutely exceptional pre ACL in his draft year.

 

[Jimmae]

Still 5th on my list of preferred candidates around our range. I do worry about his ACL injury though as a player that so heavily relied on his lateral movement and change in pace/direction to find space in tight pockets. Imo he's a similar prospect to Elijah in that regard, taken Lij a few years to seemingly find his power and agility again after looking absolutely exceptional pre ACL in his draft year.

I'd want to be a lot more sure about the knee to take him top 20, but he's far more of a power athlete than Hollands ever was.

 

[LemmingMaster]

Still 5th on my list of preferred candidates around our range. I do worry about his ACL injury though as a player that so heavily relied on his lateral movement and change in pace/direction to find space in tight pockets. Imo he's a similar prospect to Elijah in that regard, taken Lij a few years to seemingly find his power and agility again after looking absolutely exceptional pre ACL in his draft year.

This draft, there are not many players I will completely remove from bring around at our pick.

 

[Aphrodite]

Power, Saints, North father-sons invited to state Combine

The invitees for the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft state Combines have been revealed

www.afl.com.au

 

[new_blue]

I’ve seen the AFL’s updated draft value index tables (DVI) and the change isn’t too big.

The impact to the relative value of top 10 picks is quite small.

All they’ve really done is reduce the relative value of picks in 2nd and 3rd rounds and cut value off at pick 54.

As an example, currently the combined value of pick 30 and 40 is equivalent to pick 16 - under the updated index, that will change to the equivalence of pick 22.

 

[Ninja Worrier]

Great effort for Daniel Lowther to get a state screening at 47 years of age

 

[teagueyubeauty]

I’ve seen the AFL’s updated draft value index tables (DVI) and the change isn’t too big.

The impact to the relative value of top 10 picks is quite small.

All they’ve really done is reduce the relative value of picks in 2nd and 3rd rounds and cut value off at pick 54.

As an example, currently the combined value of pick 30 and 40 is equivalent to pick 16 - under the updated index, that will change to the equivalence of pick 22.

Makes a massive difference when taking multiple players in the first round


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[Opium]

Power, Saints, North father-sons invited to state Combine

The invitees for the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft state Combines have been revealed

www.afl.com.au

Does anyone know why the campo twins weren't invited to the combine in particular Ben

 

[bigblueboy]

Does anyone know why the campo twins weren't invited to the combine in particular Ben

They were invited to the national combine - a step up from the state combines.

 

[Sin City]

Great effort for Daniel Lowther to get a state screening at 47 years of age

Fits Geelong’s age profile pretty well

 

[Gethelred]

Unless he's playing on a wing no team is ever going to let Charlie roam anywhere without 3 blokes stuck to him like a bad smell.

The best thing we can do is find some elite kicks so they can hit him on the tit on a lead instead of asking him to mark it in a pack for 15.

Worked pretty well for Hawthorn in 2013.

Roughead 72
Franklin 60
Gunston 46
Breust 40
Hale 20

People forget a bit, but Gunston-Breust was a bit of a two headed monster on the lead at the time. I'd love to see career stats on Breust for goals kicked from set shot, because I'm convinced he is one of the shortest true full forwards ever. But the point here is while Buddy kicked his 60 he wasn't the focal point, and if they sat their three on him he carried them away upfield so that the others feasted.

 

[DangerousD]

Worked pretty well for Hawthorn in 2013.

Roughead 72
Franklin 60
Gunston 46
Breust 40
Hale 20

People forget a bit, but Gunston-Breust was a bit of a two headed monster on the lead at the time. I'd love to see career stats on Breust for goals kicked from set shot, because I'm convinced he is one of the shortest true full forwards ever. But the point here is while Buddy kicked his 60 he wasn't the focal point, and if they sat their three on him he carried them away upfield so that the others feasted.

Im sure they would both end up going for the same balls.

For two great players, they dont seem to split an oppositions defence and find space.

 

[Gethelred]

Im sure they would both end up going for the same balls.

For two great players, they dont seem to split an oppositions defence and find space.

There was a bit last year - after Harry went down - where our coaches very deliberately went with a policy of directing the ball to a good spot with a tall - usually TDK, sometimes Jack or Jack Martin - having the sole responsibility to direct the ball drop to the side our players were. It either happened organically - as in, the players in that situation just did it without thinking - or it was coached.

And it's a problem that this kind of intelligence has gone out of our game. Frustrating beyond belief.

 

[The Bighouse]

What is our ND history under Austin?
If correct, he’s probably going at 20% and ‘22 only looking AFL in #2 & 4.
2020: C.Durdin, J.Carroll
= hopes fading
2021: Motlop
= don’t rate as a small forward
2022: O.Hollands, Cowan, Binns, Lemmey
= most promising
2023: Moir, Wilson, another (?)
= too early but a lot of development ahead and ? over our 1st round selection’s competitiveness.
2024: Campo’s (2) ++

 

[BlueJet]

Unless he's playing on a wing no team is ever going to let Charlie roam anywhere without 3 blokes stuck to him like a bad smell.

The best thing we can do is find some elite kicks so they can hit him on the tit on a lead instead of asking him to mark it in a pack for 15.

If he starts moving & 2-3 go to him, that opens up shitloads of space for others to work with.
If that occurs, we're doing very well.

 

[ray8182]

Just watched noobers latest highlights of cooper hynes. He really has a lot of upside. Big bodied medium size half forward.

Moves a little like stringer. Actually when l watch him it’s stringer and degoey that come to mind. Has real power when breaking tackles, has clean hands, very good kick. Whilst he has a real power when bursting out of congestion he’s not a guy who has speed to run and carry.

I’m not sure Carlton would be looking at him as l think we may be looking for a better runner like Berry but hynes could be a real impact player.


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[The Return of the Paf]

what good player has austin actually drafted? starting to put together multiple drafts that are looking underwhelming. That is how you end up where richmond are now

It comes from only thinking one year ahead in an effort to 'win one for Cripps'. It's a return to the 'win one for Judd' years. It's piecemeal and it backfires. We are not competing against a more complete version of ourselves, we are competing against sides with different dynamics. I rather concentrate on how other sides win against all-comers, rather than how we lose the games we think we shouldn't.

 

[Prem17]

What is our ND history under Austin?
If correct, he’s probably going at 20% and ‘22 only looking AFL in #2 & 4.
2020: C.Durdin, J.Carroll
= hopes fading
2021: Motlop
= don’t rate as a small forward
2022: O.Hollands, Cowan, Binns, Lemmey
= most promising
2023: Moir, Wilson, another (?)
= too early but a lot of development ahead and ? over our 1st round selection’s competitiveness.
2024: Campo’s (2) ++

So far, Austin has been a downgrade on SOS and this will be a make or break year for him.
If we finish mid table next year or without at least a preliminary final berth, he'll be gone IMHO.
His biggest wins so far have been Cowan, Ollie, Boyd, who's not even utilized to his full capabilities, and Lord, who still has a way to go before he'll impact at AFL level.
Motlop will be fine if he can get his body right.