Analysis 2024 National Draft

[Aphrodite]

 

[DangerousD]

Last year Austin traded down to get Moir and Wilson which to me suggests Austin is more than happy to target areas of need or specific players he thinks will compliment the list, which has me thinking.

Berry and Lindsay both rated at 17 and 18 in Twomeys latest rankings and it appears we are up to our eye balls in trying to lure Houston, so what could we reasonably expect to get back if we traded down from 11 to say 15?

Are the players rated at 9-13 on Twomeys rankings far enough ahead to not want to trade down to 15-18?

Lastly Hynes reads as the type of player that would suit us but haven’t seen him mentioned much, what’s peoples thoughts on him?

 

[Bletch]

Last year Austin traded down to get Moir and Wilson which to me suggests Austin is more than happy to target areas of need or specific players he thinks will compliment the list, which has me thinking.

Berry and Lindsay both rated at 17 and 18 in Twomeys latest rankings and it appears we are up to our eye balls in trying to lure Houston, so what could we reasonably expect to get back if we traded down from 11 to say 15?

Are the players rated at 9-13 on Twomeys rankings far enough ahead to not want to trade down to 15-18?

Lastly Hynes reads as the type of player that would suit us but haven’t seen him mentioned much, what’s peoples thoughts on him?

Using Twomey's September rankings, our pick 11 becomes pick 12 due to Brisbane taking Ashcroft. But pick 15 would become pick 18 with Lombard and Kako coming in at 13 and 14.

Another way of looking at it. Ignore the Academy/F-S kids. Then Berry and Lindsay are rated at 14 and 15. If we were set on either of these choices, it would be risky to trade down much lower than we are now.

There's also the possibility of compensation picks further downgrading our pick 11. We'll know more about that after the trade period.

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

Last year Austin traded down to get Moir and Wilson which to me suggests Austin is more than happy to target areas of need or specific players he thinks will compliment the list, which has me thinking.

Berry and Lindsay both rated at 17 and 18 in Twomeys latest rankings and it appears we are up to our eye balls in trying to lure Houston, so what could we reasonably expect to get back if we traded down from 11 to say 15?

Are the players rated at 9-13 on Twomeys rankings far enough ahead to not want to trade down to 15-18?

Lastly Hynes reads as the type of player that would suit us but haven’t seen him mentioned much, what’s peoples thoughts on him?

Berry and Lindsay I don’t rate in the same league as Travaglia, Trainor, Hotton types.

Dont mind Hynes but he’s not a need for us. Would prefer him over Moraes though.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

If we pass on Berry after watching the Ah Chee and Lohmann I'm dropping a nuke on Austin's office

 

[Christou2Kouta]

We really need a Will Ashcroft type. If only there was a player like that in this upcoming draft…


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[Wilson14]

If we pass on Berry after watching the Ah Chee and Lohmann I'm dropping a nuke on Austin's office

So you’d be talking about more traditional medium sized forwards (183cm & 185cm) ?? Because Brisvegas small forwards are Zac Bailey (182cm) and Charlie Cameron (183cm)

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

So you’d be talking about more traditional medium sized forwards (183cm & 185cm) ?? Because Brisvegas small forwards are Zac Bailey (182cm) and Charlie Cameron (183cm)

I'm not sure what you're asking here sorry?

 

[Wilson14]

I'm not sure what you're asking here sorry?

You always talk about small forwards?? And it is more medium forwards that you’ve asked about???

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

You always talk about small forwards?? And it is more medium forwards that you’ve asked about???

Not sure I'd really call any of them medium forwards. Someone like Moir or Rayner would be but Cameron, Lohmann and Bailey are all very traditional small forwards imo, they're just all very good in the air too.

Berry plays the same way, he's electric when the ball hits the ground but he can launch clean over people's heads too. Very balanced forward threat much like Lohmann and Ah Chee today.

 

[Wilson14]

I’m not sure I'd really call any of them medium forwards. Someone like Moir or Rayner would be but Cameron, Lohmann and Bailey are all very traditional small forwards imo, they're just all very good in the air too.

Berry plays the same way, he's electric when the ball hits the ground but he can launch clean over people's heads too. Very balanced forward threat much like Lohmann and Ah Chee today.

I only keep coming because you keep going for small forwards when it is clearly Voss is horrible and Lohmann/Morris are more the medium forwards?

And going by the Bailey/Cameron stats today it is only 2 goals, so let’s just say Brisbane are better coached?

 

[jooce8891]

I only keep coming because you keep going for small forwards when it is clearly Voss is horrible and Lohmann/Morris are more the medium forwards?

And going by the Bailey/Cameron stats today it is only 2 goals, so let’s just say Brisbane are better coached?

mate if you cant see how the brisbane smalls/medium forwards are 100x better than ours, regardless of coaching, im not sure anyone can help you

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I only keep coming because you keep going for small forwards when it is clearly Voss is horrible and Lohmann/Morris are more the medium forwards?

And going by the Bailey/Cameron stats today it is only 2 goals, so let’s just say Brisbane are better coached?

As Jooce said above. If you can't see the Mariana trench size gap between our smalls and Brisbanes idk how to help. Coaching makes a difference sure... but on talent they are in a different dimension to ours.

Lohmann and Ah Chee played better games today than most of ours have played over their entire careers.

 

[Bennyboy7777]

So you’d be talking about more traditional medium sized forwards (183cm & 185cm) ?? Because Brisvegas small forwards are Zac Bailey (182cm) and Charlie Cameron (183cm)

Jack Ginnivan is a small forward and is 185cm.

 

[BerryisGoat]

Guys no WalshisGOAT is right, he’s gone on about speed all year, and then adds today Lohmann and Ah Chee who are traditionally considered mediums except for his own argument, as opposed to Bailey and Cameron who are considered the quicker small forwards. He clearly knows his football, he also knows Dimma’s son so that must mean he is correct in every sense of the word is Lohmann a medium forward but he changes the narrative to suit his opinion

 

[bradfisher14]

Guys no WalshisGOAT is right, he’s gone on about speed all year, and then adds today Lohmann and Ah Chee who are traditionally considered mediums except for his own argument, as opposed to Bailey and Cameron who are considered the quicker small forwards. He clearly knows his football, he also knows Dimma’s son so that must mean he is correct in every sense of the word is Lohmann a medium forward but he changes the narrative to suit his opinion

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Guys no WalshisGOAT is right, he’s gone on about speed all year, and then adds today Lohmann and Ah Chee who are traditionally considered mediums except for his own argument, as opposed to Bailey and Cameron who are considered the quicker small forwards. He clearly knows his football, he also knows Dimma’s son so that must mean he is correct in every sense of the word is Lohmann a medium forward but he changes the narrative to suit his opinion

Did someone srsly make a new account to post this?

 

[GT619]

Guys no WalshisGOAT is right, he’s gone on about speed all year, and then adds today Lohmann and Ah Chee who are traditionally considered mediums except for his own argument, as opposed to Bailey and Cameron who are considered the quicker small forwards. He clearly knows his football, he also knows Dimma’s son so that must mean he is correct in every sense of the word is Lohmann a medium forward but he changes the narrative to suit his opinion

now you've done it

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

If I'm that despised around these threads I'm happy to bounce

 

[DangerousD]

Guys no WalshisGOAT is right, he’s gone on about speed all year, and then adds today Lohmann and Ah Chee who are traditionally considered mediums except for his own argument, as opposed to Bailey and Cameron who are considered the quicker small forwards. He clearly knows his football, he also knows Dimma’s son so that must mean he is correct in every sense of the word is Lohmann a medium forward but he changes the narrative to suit his opinion

If you’re not a tall forward you’re a small forward.

 

[The Return of the Paf]

We've gone from 'we should be like Geelong' to 'we should be like Brisbane'? Ok - I'll update my programme, then.

 

[djw1952]

Using Twomey's September rankings, our pick 11 becomes pick 12 due to Brisbane taking Ashcroft. But pick 15 would become pick 18 with Lombard and Kako coming in at 13 and 14.

Another way of looking at it. Ignore the Academy/F-S kids. Then Berry and Lindsay are rated at 14 and 15. If we were set on either of these choices, it would be risky to trade down much lower than we are now.

There's also the possibility of compensation picks further downgrading our pick 11. We'll know more about that after the trade period.

You really have to look at the draft as two separate pools. The "open" pool is the "normal" one and the father-son/academy pool is the other, as F-S/A players usually end up going to the clubs that they are tied to. The open pool order is only affected by the compensation picks as they actually do change the depth of talent in that pool and it therefore does push the pick your club has back one spot. In other words even though the F-S/A picks do alter the "number" order of the draft, the players that were available to a club before the F-S/A picks were taken are still available to them, and so the depth has not altered at all because all that has happened is that a bid was made for a player in the "other" pool and then matched, and the bidder who was next in line anyway takes the player that was there before their bid.......

 

[teagueyubeauty]

So you’d be talking about more traditional medium sized forwards (183cm & 185cm) ?? Because Brisvegas small forwards are Zac Bailey (182cm) and Charlie Cameron (183cm)

Send that screenshot to McStay…how do you reckon he’s feeling right about now


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[HereComesJuddy]

Geez it like to get our hands on Sydney’s picks 17 and 19 as well as Brisbanes pick 18. Feel like there’s plenty of diamonds at that stage of the draft

 

[Sheephead]

I like the look of Harry O’Farrell as that KPD we crave. Cody Anderson is another slider I like. Smillie makes him look lesser than what he is.

 

[Arr0w]

I like the look of Harry O’Farrell as that KPD we crave. Cody Anderson is another slider I like. Smillie makes him look lesser than what he is.

I like O'farrell too, but has durability concerns so far. Hopefully he gets his body right