Analysis 2024 National Draft

[Aphrodite]

 

[Sheephead]

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I haven’t watched enough U18s footy but anyone able to explain why Harvey Langford is not even in the poll

His kicking is elite - we need that
He apparantly has great endurance
And he goes forward and kicks goals

I also love how he takes grabs and moves the ball on early to advantage - he strikes me as a rookie who could play half forward and rotate thru the middle from Game 1

‘Coz I’m not pretty enough’. He’s a very good player, but not he’s not what armchair experts want. Like Smillie, he gets no love but will be very good IMO.

 

[BlueTongue]

I haven’t watched enough U18s footy but anyone able to explain why Harvey Langford is not even in the poll

His kicking is elite - we need that
He apparantly has great endurance
And he goes forward and kicks goals

I also love how he takes grabs and moves the ball on early to advantage - he strikes me as a rookie who could play half forward and rotate thru the middle from Game 1

Agreed. A lot seem caught up in the Draper-mania as a supposed band-aid to our speed issues.
God forbid we look at any other attributes.

 

[Sheephead]

do we need another accumulator though

Two things. Better to have the ball than not, and, Cripps is 29, Hewett getting older, just lost Kennedy, you have to keep topping up the mid bucket with the best available options.

We also need to keep investing in KPD. The back 6 wins Premierships.

Hence my absolute willingness to trade back for Smillie and Trainor.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Port are in talks to move up to Pick 6 or 10

Edit: Pick 10.

Update to this: involves Port, GWS and Richmond. Will result in Tigers getting 2 if it pans out.

 

[Benaly28]

Watched the gettable interview with Jagga seems like a good kid the only thing is IMO is that he’s lightly framed and can definitely accumulate possessions but can be damaging.


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[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

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‘Coz I’m not pretty enough’. He’s a very good player, but not he’s not what armchair experts want. Like Smillie, he gets no love but will be very good IMO.

Two things. Better to have the ball than not, and, Cripps is 29, Hewett getting older, just lost Kennedy, you have to keep topping up the mid bucket with the best available options.

We also need to keep investing in KPD. The back 6 wins Premierships.

Hence my absolute willingness to trade back for Smillie and Trainor.

I think it’s because B Campo doesn’t bring speed and players like Kennedy and Hewett can be replaced easily and cheaply.


I would also trade back but I think it’s extremely unlikely you get picks to get Smillie and Trainor

 

[HarryFlashman]

So is Richmond getting pick 2 a good thing for us ?

 

[marcmurphy3]

So is Richmond getting pick 2 a good thing for us ?

Depends who we want but Id lean towards no given there was a chance North would reach for a KPP.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Agreed. A lot seem caught up in the Draper-mania as a supposed band-aid to our speed issues.
God forbid we look at any other attributes.

What does he bring that Kennedy didn't aside from improved kicking? A player we just pushed out the door due to his athletic profile...

 

[tarczonandjane]

So is Richmond getting pick 2 a good thing for us ?

I am having a lucky week… I live in Brisbane, went down to Melbourne for work, and just happened to bump into Ang Christou while I was walking around Princes Park!!!

So, I am prepared to put the following supreme guesswork out there and say that I reckon we are absolutely all in on getting FOS, and that if Richmond get pick 2 we will miss out. In other words, Richmond getting pick 2 is bad for us.

Ps don’t take any of the above as from Ang. I was so excited I could barely hold my phone to take a selfie with him, much less ask about the draft!

 

[bradfisher14]

So is Richmond getting pick 2 a good thing for us ?

Yes - IMO they will take Lalor and FOS. Leaves us Smith or Draper who are my two preferences.

 

[HarryFlashman]

Depends who we want but Id lean towards no given there was a chance North would reach for a KPP.

I was thinking about North’s situation, they stay at 2 and grab best available - that would absolutely stack there mids.

If they were “adventurous” they then trade out a mid for a 1st & 2nd & would make out like bandits.

They could then use the picks to buy in a ready made KPP & still have gun mids.

 

[HarryFlashman]

With North’s mid stocks, I don’t think it would be hard to get agreement for a trade out - the player would get a ripping contract and move to a decent club, you would think one of them would jump at it.
It would be a win/win all around - would take a ballsy list management play thou

 

[GoBlues!]

So is Richmond getting pick 2 a good thing for us ?

Odds are Richmond will pick Lalor with one of the picks, and either Jagga or Finn with the other.

If we’re left with the choice of either Jagga or Finn I don’t think we should be bothered either way.

I’m picturing a midfield with Jagga/Finn, Ben Camporeale and Cody Walker in a couple of years time…with triple Brownlow medalist Cripps.

 

[Bletch]

So is Richmond getting pick 2 a good thing for us ?

Best for us is if North keep it and spend it on Tauru. Otherwise, it doesn't really matter who has it.

 

[VainGlorious]

I’m having lunch with Austin and Agresta on Friday through the coterie group I’m in. Will pass on any intel.

Is it Friday yet?

Asking for a friend.

 

[Bletch]

From the main draft board:

The draft consensus ranking for October from rankings done by the AFL, ESPN, RMC, Herald Sun, The Age and Fox Footy.

View attachment 2154898

 

[HyphensBack]

This is why

Damn I didn’t notice that Langford was slow

Hope we aren’t chasing another runner who can’t football

Much prefer a great disposer and high possession player who runs all day
Over
A fast runner who hardly gets the ball and when they do they handball to others under pressure or kick it blindly

 

[SurreyBlue]

Odds are Richmond will pick Lalor with one of the picks, and either Jagga or Finn with the other.

If we’re left with the choice of either Jagga or Finn I don’t think we should be bothered either way.

I’m picturing a midfield with Jagga/Finn, Ben Camporeale and Cody Walker in a couple of years time…with triple Brownlow medalist Cripps.

Jeepus - what happened to Walsh and Cerra?

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Damn I didn’t notice that Langford was slow

Hope we aren’t chasing another runner who can’t football

Much prefer a great disposer and high possession player who runs all day
Over
A fast runner who hardly gets the ball and when they do they handball to others under pressure or kick it blindly

Who are you talking about here?

 

[Arr0w]

Love your work ArrOw. Great read and a really good reflection on picks that came later in the draft over so many years.

The only thing is that it's not relevant to the point. Yes many great players have been overlooked multiple times by multiple clubs and have gone on to be great players. It will happen again this year.

I honestly don't think there is a Dow at pick 3 this year.

Such a great discussion between pick oppinions by everyone. IMO one Ashcroft/Sheezel/Daicos/Wardlaw/McKirtcher type beats two Ollie Hollands as much as i love him.

While no recruiter has picked the best player at each pick over their tenure (they could write their own ticket if they did), it should always be the goal

Pick 3, you would be looking for 200+ gamer, but no reason you can't find 2 players like that late in the 1st round

 

[HyphensBack]

Who are you talking about here?

I was referring to Dow (should have said explosive runner)

But Draper looks fast but sloppy with possessions as well

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Damn I didn’t notice that Langford was slow

Hope we aren’t chasing another runner who can’t football

Much prefer a great disposer and high possession player who runs all day
Over
A fast runner who hardly gets the ball and when they do they handball to others under pressure or kick it blindly

Well good thing we have the opportunity to get a gun footballer who can also run... Given we're using pick 3 and not 60.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Just to clarify, the 4 picks burned before our pick will be used to match bids on two players - Levi Ashcroft (Lions picks 27, 34) and Kako (Essendon picks 28, 31).

The other two bids expected, on Lombard and Marshall, involve burning picks after our pick 38.

Exactly. But there will be 4 picks inserted and 4 picks burned, which leaves us back where we started. When Ashcroft is taken, we will go into 37 as one pick is inserted and two burned. Then Lombard pushes us back to 38 as one pick is inserted and matching picks are after 38. Then Kako brings us back to 37 as one pick is inserted and two burned. Then Marshall takes us back to 38 again as one pick is inserted and the matching picks are after our pick.

 

[bmaurizio]

Two things. Better to have the ball than not, and, Cripps is 29, Hewett getting older, just lost Kennedy, you have to keep topping up the mid bucket with the best available options.

We also need to keep investing in KPD. The back 6 wins Premierships.

Hence my absolute willingness to trade back for Smillie and Trainor.

Absolutely agree, our defense suffered a destabilizing blow with loss of Jones affecting our team structure, upfield too, we have not been able to deliver the ball effectively to our midfielders or half forwards since.
It’s an urgent need.