Analysis 2024 National Draft

[Aphrodite]

 

[YeoShuey]

Are you a Carlton supporter?

Your posting history is a bit confusing, and use of words like "you guys" is odd.

What term do you want me to use when referring to people other than myself? You guys seem to fits best. I just cannot include myself in that because I am not overrating him.

 

[YeoShuey]

Jagga Smith has been spoken about as a Number 1 pick for two years, see many of numerous examples:

• https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/dr...e/news-story/63e5d4ac12292e1e2ed0fc1a83ce8bdf
• https://www.espn.co.uk/afl/story/_/...agga-smith-levi-ashcroft-sid-draper-sam-lalor
• https://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=HSWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2024-jagga-smith-stars-in-vfl-debut-key-forward-bolter-essendon-ngas-firstround-lock/news-story/f6b022e24cd26b998e5f3c9b8df5dbff&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=GROUPA-Segment-2-NOSCORE
• https://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=HSWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-draft-2024-jagga-smith-on-his-50disposal-game-comparisons-to-zak-butters-and-national-championships/news-story/b4e9f965994006c27ae1776abc0e8d0c&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=GROUPA-Segment-2-NOSCORE

I haven't disputed that he has been spoken about as a number 1 pick. Also haven't denied that he has been spoken about as a 6-10 pick.

You are just making my point for me. It's all subjective.

 

[GoBlues!]

Who would you take at 3?

Same question was asked and answered yesterday:

Lalor gone and not knowing what North do....

Smith
Draper
Langford or FOS

What also comes into play is what might happen to our next pick

 

[FlowersByIrene]

I haven't disputed that he has been spoken about as a number 1 pick. Also haven't denied that he has been spoken about as a 6-10 pick.

You are just making my point for me. It's all subjective.

So your point is you have no point... and you just don't like Jaga so you're just weirded out that everyone isn't frothing over FOS who has been injured all year and has clear limitations or Lalor who is also injured, who is unlikely to be available to us and who also isn't really a ready made midfielder - which is what we need and what Austin has said we are targeting?

Bizarre

 

[YeoShuey]

So your point is you have no point... and you just don't like Jaga so you're just weirded out that everyone isn't frothing over FOS who has been injured all year and has clear limitations or Lalor who is also injured, who is unlikely to be available to us and who also isn't really a ready made midfielder - which is what we need and what Austin has said we are targeting?

Bizarre

I do have a point but you clearly haven't comprehended it for the second, third, maybe even fifth time that I have explained it that I cannot bother explaining it again.

I'm neutral on Jagga. Indifferent. Sounds more like you have a problem with FOS and Lalor which I find more bizarre given they are clearly the best 2 players in the draft.

 

[Dunna Heartknee]

I do have a point but you clearly haven't comprehended it for the second, third, maybe even fifth time that I have explained it that I cannot bother explaining it again.

I'm neutral on Jagga. Indifferent. Sounds more like you have a problem with FOS and Lalor which I find more bizarre given they are clearly the best 2 players in the draft.

There's no problem with either they are touted to go one and two, considering we have pick three how do you suggest we acquire them if they are already gone.

 

[YeoShuey]

There's no problem with either they are touted to go one and two, considering we have pick three how do you suggest we acquire them if they are already gone.

Good question.

Lalor will most likely be gone first so that would just leave FOS. I think who goes second will depend on club.

If Richmond get that pick, then FOS may be gone. If North keep their pick, more chance of them choosing Tauru than FOS in my opinion. I would not be shocked if they go for Tauru even at Pick 2.

 

[Dunna Heartknee]

Good question.

Lalor will most likely be gone first so that would just leave FOS. I think who goes second will depend on club.

If Richmond get that pick, then FOS may be gone. If North keep their pick, more chance of them choosing Tauru than FOS in my opinion. I would not be shocked if they go for Tauru even at Pick 2.

It's just a waiting game, if FOS is still there at our pick we'll take him imo.

 

[The Bighouse]

Depends on your interpretation.

"Carlton has their eyes on pacy draft prospect Finn O'Sullivan" <- To quote various news article including the Herald Sun. That doesn't sound like an assumption to me. That sounds more like a statement of fact rather than assumption.

Statement of fact would be from Austin & Co declaring CFC is solely eyeing FOS for our pick upgrade to #3. HUN ran with this from the get go with the Walsh connection highlighted.

Don’t believe any such uttering has come from our LM team, if you can point out where any names have been raised for our specific draft pick target. That would be a statement of fact, not a journalist/newspapers thoughts on our perceived list management drafting strategy.

 

[GoBlues!]

Two weeks to go and we’re all up to speed on each player’s strengths and weaknesses, is it time to cull the poll down to who we think the club will take at our 1st pick?

Some good players listed below but can’t see how any of them would be considered at pick 3.

• Bo Allan​

  Votes: 5 1.1%

• Joe Berry​

  Votes: 26 5.9%

• Tobie Travaglia​

  Votes: 13 2.9%

• Harry Armstrong​

  Votes: 7 1.6%

• Jobe Shanahan​

  Votes: 0 0.0%

• Xavier Lindsay​

  Votes: 4 0.9%

• Taj Hotton​

  Votes: 11 2.5%

• Josh Smillie​

  Votes: 4 0.9%

 

[HBF]

Same question was asked and answered yesterday:

Thanks.
Finding it hard to really land on anyone this year.

 

[marcmurphy3]

I reckon it's FOS or Jagga. FOS more likely if North keep pick 2. Jagga if they trade it to Richmond.

Getting that vibe.

 

[BluStreak]

can anyone give an appraisal of FOS attitude towards professionalism in his approach to football.
He comes across (to me) as too flippant about it. The I am good so why do I have to put in type.

Hope that I am totally wrong but I have seen too many kids that are good at something but are not professional enough to put in the hard work to be better.

 

[SpiritOfCarlton]

Grown men arguing over the teenage boy they like the most.

 

[marcmurphy3]

can anyone give an appraisal of FOS attitude towards professionalism in his approach to football.
He comes across (to me) as too flippant about it. The I am good so why do I have to put in type.

Hope that I am totally wrong but I have seen too many kids that are good at something but are not professional enough to put in the hard work to be better.

Nothing I have seen suggests any level of
unproffesionalism.

That said, he is not at the Jagga level who seems the ultimate professional.

 

[GoBlues!]

Thanks.
Finding it hard to really land on anyone this year.

Same here, there’s a lot to like about Smith, Finn, Draper, Lalor and Langford.

They all offer something different and will be pretty good players.

 

[BluStreak]

Nothing I have seen suggests any level of
unproffesionalism.

That said, he is not at the Jagga level who seems the ultimate professional.

Jagga comes across like Crippa and Walsh in his prep

 

[marcmurphy3]

Jagga comes across like Crippa and Walsh in his prep

However good Jagga does or doesn't end up being you can guarantee he gets 100% out of himself.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Grown men arguing over the teenage boy they like the most.

I'm not so sure everyone here is grown.

At the end of the day we'll end up with a good kid at #3, who cares if he's not awarded next years rising star.