Analysis 2024 National Draft

Who will be our first selection on night 2 of the Draft?


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For us? Draper, Jagga, FOS, Lalor, Langford

Thank you. Can you elaborate why you think someone like jagga would suit us more than fos or lalor?

Is it just the burst and evasiveness that we lack?

From my limited viewing, i would think fos or lalor are a point of difference for us with more front half impact which we lack as well as footskills and penetration which we also lack (and so does jagga)??
 
I want to push back a bit on Lalor = Dusty.

I just don't think he's shown anything like Dusty's kicking or accumulation.

De Goey is the same type but a step below and I think that seems more reasonable
I'm referring to his ceiling. If De Goey was fit enough to cover as much ground as Dusty, he'd basically be Dusty.
 

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Concerns with Drapers kicking are way overblown. He is far from a butcher. Yeah, it's not his biggest strength but we are not talking Dow or Andy Carrazzo level disposal skills. He's probably a 7 out of 10 while a guy like Jagga is an 8. Just needs to steady more when kicking the ball at full pace. If you watch his highlights, he pulls off some exceptional kicks.

And I'm not team Draper by the way. Just think some are exaggerating strengths and weaknesses of these potential draftees to suit an argument. In reality there's not much between them and if those weaknesses were as big as made out, they wouldn't be in contention for top 5.
he's played in average teams who's probably doing more than he'd like compared to a Vic met or country with deeper talent
 
Yeah... when ur talking a top 3 pick we're not picking the best athlete, we're picking a gun footballer who also happens to match what we lack athletically.

You're an intelligent poster Arr0w, to suggest we'd be doing otherwise by not taking Langford is silly.

Smillie has performed almost just as well as Langford this year, but he doesn't cop a mention in here for good reason. Adding another 190+ slow midfielder to our mix would be utterly ludicrous.

It's rare where recruiters/people have 1 player dramatically ahead of another, generally 3-4 in a group especially for the 1st round or so

So, for me, I'd take Lalor ahead of Langford who i have in the same group as Smith, Draper and then possibly FOS

At that point you can still lean to needs
 
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he's played in average teams who's probably doing more than he'd like compared to a Vic met or country with deeper talent

Plus playing against grown men every week in a semi professional league instead of against kids in a development league. His disposal would be under a fair bit more pressure.
 
Could be wrong, but I feel like people need to come to terms with the fact that if FOS is on the board at our pick, we’ll take him.
Think you’re right, I get the feeling the club sees Finn as it’s first preference and he’ll probably get picked if available.

Personally still think Jagga more likely to improve the effectiveness of our midfield group, which has shown signs of struggling this year, and is the better pick for the team.
 
I’m not too sure how I would feel if we’ve selected FOS.

But, I’ll quickly get on board with our selection at #3 - any of Smith, FOS & Draper - in that order

Lalor is gone at #1
 

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Could be wrong, but I feel like people need to come to terms with the fact that if FOS is on the board at our pick, we’ll take him.

Don't worry. We'll all convince ourselves he was the right choice when we pick him 🤣

That is until he doesn't dominate year 1. Then all the I told you so's will come out lol.
 
Ben Campo is another one I think we're underrating a bit on here. Was talked up as a potential Top 10-20 pick in his underage year, winning some accolades in his U17 year alongside Sid Draper.

This year the talk has died down, he's played less, and his draft stocks have fallen. It's hard to say with certainty exactly what the combination of factors is, was he overrated in his U17 year as a big name and put up draft board, or is he pushed down the draft boards as an U18 with people knowing he's locked away to us, so people put less time into him (and we may have told him not to go out and sell himself too hard).

It touches on some of the discussion above re FOS, Samo and others on under age form and how it translates. Is Ben Campo in the same camp? Or was his lower profile this year manufactured / indifference from the draft watchers. Either way, if we can select him after Pick #38 I think we'll get a bargain, and maybe in there will be a top 10-20 range midfielder if we're lucky.

Underage, kids get rated on WHAT they do. Can a mid rack up disposals?

Draft year they get rated on HOW they do it. Can the mid play inside and out? Are they quick? Are the disposals clean? What are they like overhead? Can they kick goals? Do they have a second position? Etc

Ben Campo is a good football prospect, but he's not a sexy football prospect. That means he'll probably get drafted behind a bunch of more risky/upside/athletic types.

Even ignoring father-son shenanigans... IF he makes it at AFL level, he'll likely be a bargain.
 
FOS!
Balance
Quick
Agile
Good mark overhead
Skilful
Finishes his work

Couldn't ask for a better young prospect to develop and exactly what our midfield could use more of. Imagine him and E.Hollands teaming up 🤤

Cripps
Walsh
Cez
Hewett
Doch
E.Hollo
FOS 🤞
Lord
Cameos (Cinx, O.Hollo, Fog, B.Campo)

Midfield will have a good mix of different players
 
Treloar comp for Draper might be the best player comp for a draftee I’ve seen

You sir have made me want Draper now
Shuey a better comparison imo. Treloar kicks a heap of goals and Sid is probably more agile, Treloar is quicker in a straight line.

FOS to me looks like he could be what we hoped from Cuningham.
 
One important attribute that’s glaringly missing is ball getting skills/number of possessions, just not high enough imo for a midfielder - probably the lowest of the 4 players mentioned.
He hasn’t played an AFL game yet.
Give him at least 50 before we cast these aspersions.
People canning him before he puts a jersey on.
 
Shuey a better comparison imo. Treloar kicks a heap of goals and Sid is probably more agile, Treloar is quicker in a straight line.

FOS to me looks like he could be what we hoped from Cuningham.

Yep. Shuey is who he reminds me of too.

I find FOS the hardest player to do a comparison of in the draft. Doesn't really remind me of anybody.

For me he moves like a right footed Josh Kelly but plays more like a Heeney.
 
Sorry to post a question not relevant to this post but I can’t be bothered going back the several pages to the quote.

I wanted to get your thoughts on your assessments of Jhye Clark in his draft year, I saw your assessments of a champs game where you stated that Clark was your favourite in the draft, the game you were commenting on he had 16 touches at 73% efficiency.

He has really struggled not only at AFL but VFL too and I was wondering if looking back, if any warning signs were there?
I was never too hot on Clark. Courageous but not enough elite attributes for mine.
 
Yep. Shuey is who he reminds me of too.

I find FOS the hardest player to do a comparison of in the draft. Doesn't really remind me of anybody.

For me he moves like a right footed Josh Kelly but plays more like a Heeney.
Maybe because he's his own kind of player who will - 10 years from now - become a new type of player to compare others to.

Not a bad thing. Think Crippa, Bont, Pendles before them.
 
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