Analysis 2024 National Draft

[Aphrodite]

 

[GT619]

Didn't I say he was probably the best player in the draft?

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can't remember. he's my favourite of the bunch this year

 

[HyphensBack]

Sorry but I 100% disagree. Langford or FOS aren't "slow" Win the ball is the key

Cerra & Walsh and even Cripps can burst form the middle. Then give mid minutes to Motlop, Durdin, Williams etc to freshen up. Boyd Wilosn Saad Ollie etc running off HB. Win the ball and use it properly and leg speed is largely irrelevant

I agree, slower but not slow and evasive. Plus I value elite disposal more than speed

I feel dirty saying it but Langford could be our Pendlebury (Left footed and all). We need speed sure but we need creative ball users out of the middle.

FOS could be xxxx (I have no idea) but I like that they can both play forward initially as it’s a weakness of ours

But I would take Lalor in a flash

 

[HyphensBack]

Think it might be more about what he does when he doesn't have the ball that may be the issue with Harvey. And take this with a grain of salt, as I haven't watched anywhere near enough this year to make a considered judgment. But what I did see of him this year left me non-plussed - lacking defensively, no run/chase, lacking in second efforts. Highlight package looks great, but don't think it's the full story. Have him behind the others in the group we're looking at personally, but geez, he knows how to lower the eyes and hit a target.

Okay I’m off Harvey and on to Lalor - or is he no good too

 

[HyphensBack]

The thing is, transition play isn't always about who's the fastest sprinter but rather who's the fastest across the length of the field. Langford was one of the top performers in the 2km time trial, and his running capacity is elite for his class. His 20m sprint is lower, but when it comes to the transition game and broader running capacity he'll be a positive contributor to it.

Most of the game isn't played in an all out sprint. In fact very little of it is.

Okay I am back on Langford

 

[Cripptonite]

A poster on the Crows draft thread with links to South Adelaide has mentioned that we’re showing a huge amount of interest in Draper with Bryce Gibbs putting in a good word to Draper about the CFC.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

he's a gut runner. not quick. but runs hard from contest to contest. remember this is a 10 - 12yr player we're investing in, not just impacting straight away

What about defensively, like really trying to defend not just pretend like Dow used to do?


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[mjonc43]

A poster on the Crows draft thread with links to South Adelaide has mentioned that we’re showing a huge amount of interest in Draper with Bryce Gibbs putting in a good word to Draper about the CFC.

Lemmey, Moir and Campo twins would make him feel like he is home.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

A poster on the Crows draft thread with links to South Adelaide has mentioned that we’re showing a huge amount of interest in Draper with Bryce Gibbs putting in a good word to Draper about the CFC.

We are selecting, not Draper so not sure what Gibbsy’s input has anything to do with it

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Lemmey, Moir and Campo twins would make him feel like he is home.

Little Durds as well, 5 youngsters under 22yrs, Draper would make it 6…

 

[marcmurphy3]

A poster on the Crows draft thread with links to South Adelaide has mentioned that we’re showing a huge amount of interest in Draper with Bryce Gibbs putting in a good word to Draper about the CFC.

The poster reckons we have spoken to him twice as much as any other club.

 

[HyphensBack]

For me Langford should be last on that list as Carlton do not need another big lumbering type of player in the midfield as we already have enough in Cripps, Hewett and Cerra, and while he does have his unique set of skills the club are supposed to be looking at players with pace and more pace as we don`t have a player with that burst of speed out of the centre. To me Langford shapes as a taller version of Lalor but without his speed, and is more of a forward than a dead set mid......Does not solve our midfield quick extraction plan in my view......I really feel that Austin wants either FO`S or Draper, and as the so called draft specialists are saying.......Draper (baring injury!) is ready to step up from round 1 next season........hoping for one of those two, even though Smith is being compared to Cotchin by some. Doesn`t look like a sniper, but there you go!!!

What injury for Cerra resulted in him getting big and lumbering?

Why is Langford more of a forward then a mid, I keep seeing him extracting the ball or taking marks in the middle and kicking to the advantage of forwards, was he playing as a high half forward??

 

[SurreyBlue]

The poster reckons we have spoken to him twice as much as any other club.

Due diligence.
We should be speaking to all 5 or so continuously.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

Due diligence.
We should be speaking to all 5 or so continuously.

Cal said today we have spoken to all 5 candidates (FOS, Langford, Lalor, Jagga and Draper) multiple times recently.

But he really emphasised FOS and Langford for our pick 3

 

[PezzDogg95]

I really like Sid Draper for our pick, has pace and agility, knows how to find the footy and is tenacious in attack and defence.

He'll contribute to our defence at stoppages and most importantly our transition defence through the midfield with his pace and tenacity. He doesnt weaken our strengths, and he strengthens our weaknesses defensively.

In attack, having his foot speed and agility make him incredibly hard to catch, this will be an asset in our midfield which is mostly crash and bash at the moment. The opposition will need to check his run before he gets away from them, giving them another dynamic to consider. Something the club knows we sorely lack.

He has had consistent and high achieving years in 2023 and 2024. He has leadership experience and credentials. Played against men in the SANFL and performed well.

He is ready for the AFL, and will play 20+ games across half forward and rotating into the midfield in 2025 for the team that selects him.

If available at Pick #3, I wouldn't hesitate to call his name out.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Cal said today we have spoken to all 5 candidates (FOS, Langford, Lalor, Jagga and Draper) multiple times recently.

But he really emphasised FOS and Langford for our pick 3

I don't think he really emphasised anyone
(and I was looking desperately hard for a hint ). If he did it must have been very subtle as I just rewatched and again got nothing.

Cal loves Langford and probably picks him if it was his selection. Might be picking up some of that love.

Could be wrong but that's my perception.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Due diligence.
We should be speaking to all 5 or so continuously.

No doubt. Also we are probably making up for lost time since we spent the whole year thinking these guys are out of reach.

 

[Coops93]

Anythings possible Coops.

But at 35 and 37 the points we need to match at these picks are discounted by 20%, and we would easily match the bid with 63, 68 and 69 if needed. It's not to say they won't bid but if they did, we've got these later picks (including 72) and there's no way we wouldn't match a bid ay 35 or 37.

Iirc you must use your next pick in matching, meaning 38 is gone.

 

[Coops93]

Transition play used to be about labouring along. It's now very much a game of sprints and high intent efforts.

Just have to watch Hawthorn or Geelong to see how their immense running power from their forward half players breaks the games open for them.

Part of the reason why their ball movement often looks silky smooth and ours looks like we're extracting blood from a stone.

I may have misworded it, but the point was over distance he's fine. Mightnt be the best over 20m but over a 100m run he'll be perfectly fine. He'll run up and down the field at pace all day.

 

[BlueZombie]

Aquaducts…?

"Remember what the city used to be like , Reg!"

 

[The Blueseum]

No longer worried about pick 3, too busy drinking the Cripps Shiraz.

 

[Jimmae]

Those trade downs are unrealistic because if those type of deals were on the table North Melbourne (who are looking to split) would take them for 2. The reason they aren't splitting is because the offers aren't there.

Don't get me wrong. I'm sure we could get overs for 3 but it would require us trading out of the top 10 (back to where we started). There won't be a decent slide option.

North have nothing else to offer in this year's draft other than pick 2. If they want to appease someone trading up, I suspect they'll need to make multiple trades, if that's even possible with how live trading is structured.

We have 38, and apparently North can be talked into making their pick null and void for the planning of everyone but Melbourne.

Is anyone saying we’ll only take 4?
I think the consensus is we’ll take 4 in the ND to make 36 senior, and then 1 rookie as it now seems we’ll be leaving 2 SSP spots open.

It's come up a fair bit so yeah I was clarifying. The double SSP slot move is the one I have serious reservations about given the names being touted.

They are known quantities.

 

[MITSUHIRATO]

So with two SSP spots available, does that means we can invite a total of four players to train?

DGB (assuming he’s still available)
Matt Allison
Sam Durdin

38

Sam Durdin

Age

28

Ht

199cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.7

2star

K

6.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

Matt Carroll

I really feel like we’re wasted positions on Durdin and Carroll (more so Durdin) when train-on invites are limited.

 

[BigFrizz36]

So with two SSP spots available, does that means we can invite a total of four players to train?

DGB (assuming he’s still available)
Matt Allison
Sam Durdin
Matt Carroll

I really feel like we’re wasted positions on Durdin and Carroll (more so Durdin) when train-on invites are limited.

Might depend on whether we draft a tall defender , assuming that we can use 38 or similar.

 

[Arr0w]

Makes sense we have a couple of talls as train on players, just in case we lose pick 38 on a Ben bid and or a tall we want is selected earlier

 

[ESKIE]

Yes. They could say it.

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Good on them