Analysis 2024 National Draft

[Aphrodite]

 

[marcmurphy3]

Would be happy with FOS or Draper.

Watching Draper burst out of packs wearing the Navy Blue would be hard to resist.

Was thinking the other day how rare Drapers athletic attributes are for an inside mid.

You probably have to go back to Ball and Judd 20 years ago to find a prospect with a similar combination of speed (plus agility), endurance and ball winning.

 

[BluStreak]

Jagga's ability to read where the ball will fall, his agility which makes him hard to tackle and his quickness in disposal would be a great delight to watch in the forward line. Would make him our best small forward.

 

[JuddgementDay]

Was thinking the other day how rare Drapers athletic attributes are for an inside mid.

You probably have to go back to Ball and Judd 20 years ago to find a prospect with a similar combination of speed (plus agility), endurance and ball winning.

Assuming we have done due diligence on his injury - Austin just have to lock in Draper for the betterment of team balance.

We've been crying out for some more speed in the midfield -and Draper is a great answer.
Austin lock Draper in for #3 and let's get on with the rest of the draft then - Bring on 2025!

 

[BigFrizz36]

Not really true at all tbh. Especially talls. Think you're confusing good players going to shit teams and shit teams being forced to play them with this.


One of the best wingers of the 2010s developed VFL til he was 22 or smthing.



The list of talls who started terribly is extensive. Gawn even said himself if he wasn't 200cm he'd have been cut after 2 years.


The Geelong trio of bartel, Enright and cam Guthrie all started their careers very slowly with sporadic game time in the first 3 seasons and strong messaging to go back and develop elements in the twos. I think Stevie J was in and out for his first 3 seasons not.playing too much either As he had to develop in the twos.

Swan was drafted in 2001 and didn't play ones til 2003.

Cal Wilkie developed in the vfl
Jobe Watson was.depth only first 3 seasons. Matt Priddis was overlooked in multiple years rookie drafts... Developed pretty well in the levels below...

Luke bruest started his third season in the AFL playing in the hawks THIRDS team. Not even selected for Box Hill.........

Luke Shuey won the rising star in his third year having played 6 games in his first two years on the list.

Kai Lohmann just starred in a flag after playing 8 games in his first two years on the lions list.

Plenty of examples of the opposite as well with players who burned brightly early but flamed out just as quickly. Jayden Stevenson, Chad Wiegard, Lewis Taylor etc.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Luke Shuey won the rising star in his third year having played 6 games in his first two years on the list.

Kai Lohmann just starred in a flag after playing 8 games in his first two years on the lions list.

Plenty of examples of the opposite as well with players who burned brightly early but flamed out just as quickly. Jayden Stevenson, Chad Wiegard, Lewis Taylor etc.

I rekon I remember hearing Shuey didn’t even play in his first season and then missed pretty much all his second season.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Not really true at all tbh. Especially talls. Think you're confusing good players going to shit teams and shit teams being forced to play them with this.


One of the best wingers of the 2010s developed VFL til he was 22 or smthing.



The list of talls who started terribly is extensive. Gawn even said himself if he wasn't 200cm he'd have been cut after 2 years.


The Geelong trio of bartel, Enright and cam Guthrie all started their careers very slowly with sporadic game time in the first 3 seasons and strong messaging to go back and develop elements in the twos. I think Stevie J was in and out for his first 3 seasons not.playing too much either As he had to develop in the twos.

Swan was drafted in 2001 and didn't play ones til 2003.

Cal Wilkie developed in the vfl
Jobe Watson was.depth only first 3 seasons. Matt Priddis was overlooked in multiple years rookie drafts... Developed pretty well in the levels below...

Luke bruest started his third season in the AFL playing in the hawks THIRDS team. Not even selected for Box Hill.........

How about since say 2014? (Last 10 years)
I’m sure there are mids who have taken time but they do seem to be impacting much more quickly.

 

[Soapy V]

I’ve read all the reports and watched the videos

IMO it’s still between.

FOS
Smith
Draper
Langford
Lalor
Smillie

I just see us getting Ashcroft

 

[Soapy V]

Assuming we have done due diligence on his injury - Austin just have to lock in Draper for the betterment of team balance.

We've been crying out for some more speed in the midfield -and Draper is a great answer.
Austin lock Draper in for #3 and let's get on with the rest of the draft then - Bring on 2025!

If the selection was purely on needs Draper looks the one.

Question is for Pick 3 do we go purely needs or simply the best player?

Love to be a fly on the wall for the discussions between Austin, Voss and the recruiting team and hear their true thoughts

 

[BigFrizz36]

How about since say 2014? (Last 10 years)
I’m sure there are mids who have taken time but they do seem to be impacting much more quickly.

In recent times I would say Callum Ah Chee, Ed Richards and Hayden Young are examples of players that have taken a bedding down period of maybe 2 or 3 years before they began to show what potential that they had

 

[I bleed Blue]

Been on the Sid Draper train since we secured pick 3.

Warmed to FOS. Now warming to Langford.

We just absolutely can't go wrong with whoever we get at this pick.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

If the selection was purely on needs Draper looks the one.

Question is for Pick 3 do we go purely needs or simply the best player?

Love to be a fly on the wall for the discussions between Austin, Voss and the recruiting team and hear their true thoughts

At pick 3 I want the best player available, if it’s Sid I’ll be very happy! I just don’t want us to pick a player because he is fast

 

[Stamos]

Assuming we have done due diligence on his injury - Austin just have to lock in Draper for the betterment of team balance.

We've been crying out for some more speed in the midfield -and Draper is a great answer.
Austin lock Draper in for #3 and let's get on with the rest of the draft then - Bring on 2025!

One could argue that for team balance (which I’m pretty doubtful you use as the rationale when using the number 3 pick) we’ d want a player who can play in a 2nd position.

 

[Revenant1965]

North

I hope so...

 

[TerryWallet]

At pick 3 I want the best player available, if it’s Sid I’ll be very happy! I just don’t want us to pick a player because he is fast

Rest assured, Draper is "not just fast".

He is All Australian his last 3 years. Has starred at every level, including Senior SANFL. He is a great attacking, and defensive player. Averaged 6 tackles a game at SANFL level.

He is a gun player and leader, who is fast.

 

[TerryWallet]

One could argue that for team balance (which I’m pretty doubtful you use as the rationale when using the number 3 pick) we’ d want a player who can play in a 2nd position.

I agree with that. But i think Elijah is that pinch hitting mid for us. Sid would allow Walsh to be utilised a bit better/smarter imo. Give him some chopout on the ball.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

Rest assured, Draper is "not just fast".

He is All Australian his last 3 years. Has starred at every level, including Senior SANFL. He is a great attacking, and defensive player. Averaged 6 tackles a game at SANFL level.

He is a gun player and leader, who is fast.

Would love Draper if he was to be selected with our pick 3, I just feel out of all 5 candidates I’m not sure if he is the best available?

But I trust Agresta and Austin

 

[AD03]

Interested to hear some opinions of the footage of Jagga, FOS, and Langford’s VFL games?

There’s a very repetitive trend of criticism to FOS based on video packages, so for those of you that aren’t impressed by the videos you’ve watched check out the VFL one as to me he looked easily the most exciting of the kids that played for tigers in the magoos.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

I’m still not convinced that North will trade pick 2 and if they keep it that they will pick Tauru.

If LDU leaves and in couple years I think Mckercher will be one of prime targets for the Tassie team so I can see the Kangas picking FOS or Draper with pick 2 and using their future first to buy back into the first round to get the KPD that they need

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Our midfield post revamp and heading into the future will be a serious force to be reckoned with if they all stay healthy. I love Crippa, Hewett and Kennedy but the next iteration looks far more balanced and suited for the modern game with better runners across the board. Every player in that mix is a strong runner and capable defensively inside and outside the contest.

How our wings develop will be a big factor too however, they'll need to provide more from a ball use perspective than Ollie and Acres currently do as they should be required to do less defensively. Whether Binns or Ollie are the answer to that is another question. I'd love to see Billy Wilson and Cowan trialled there this pre season as more offensively minded options.

Pittonet
Cripps
Walsh
Hewett
Cerra
Kennedy

TDK
Walker (Cripps Replacement)
Walsh
Lord/Ben Campo (Hewett Replacement)
Cerra
Draper/FOS/Smith (Kennedy Replacement)

Obviously will have others rotating through there too and Cripps could play on another 3-4 years for all we know but as a basis I love the look of that mix.

 

[Stamos]

Would love Draper if he was to be selected with our pick 3, I just feel out of all 5 candidates I’m not sure if he is the best available?

But I trust Agresta and Austin

I admit I have no real idea about the draftees, but the knocks on Draper concern me the most of the 5 possibilities. But, we won’t know for years who the right choice would be.

Hoping Agresta nails the pick.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

In recent times I would say Callum Ah Chee, Ed Richards and Hayden Young are examples of players that have taken a bedding down period of maybe 2 or 3 years before they began to show what potential that they had

Yeh that’s fair I was more talking about just contributing.
Young was injured his first two years and then broke out in his third. He was always playing when not injured.
Richard’s played over 40 games in his first two seasons.
They were contributing from the very start. Richard’s no doubt has exploded later though.


Ah Chee no doubt has become a decent player but I’d be gutted if we only get that level of a player from our pick.


I look at the draft from two years ago and I think only 3 players from the top 10 haven’t played 30 games. Wardlaw I ignore because he has been injured and Tsatas and Clark. I’d be very worried if we draft a player performing like them after two years.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

I admit I have no real idea about the draftees, but the knocks on Draper concern me the most of the 5 possibilities. But, we won’t know for years who the right choice would be.

Hoping Agresta nails the pick.

Does anyone have the history of Agresta on who he picked when he was at the swans?

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Just a random question, but who will bid on Ashcroft to keep the premiers Brisbane a little honest...

North, more for the reason to get extra time on the clock to take final bids for pick 2


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[bmaurizio]

Whether it’s O’Sullivan , Smith , Draper, Langford or Lalor, Austin must take the best player available at p3. Let’s hope we have luck too .

 

[JuddgementDay]

If the selection was purely on needs Draper looks the one.

Question is for Pick 3 do we go purely needs or simply the best player?


Love to be a fly on the wall for the discussions between Austin, Voss and the recruiting team and hear their true thoughts

We are not reaching like North may be for Taurus with #2 or even #6

I think in this case, I would like to follow the KISS principle as Draper is both a need for CFC & the best player for CFC at #3 - simples