Analysis 2024 National Draft

Who should Carlton take at Pick 3 if available?


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At pick 3 I want the best player available, if it’s Sid I’ll be very happy! I just don’t want us to pick a player because he is fast

Draper averaged 24.8 disposals, 12 contested possessions and 3.8 tackles per game for SA at the carnival as a 17 y.o. 2 years ago.

Averaged 21 disposals (eight contested) at 76.2% efficiency and 3.8 clearances at this year's champs after returning from injury just before.

On his best days O'Sullivan generally has 20 disposals. Did not make the AA team this year.

More concerns around FOS than Draper for me but maybe Finn has the higher upside given he's a bit taller?

But how do you split guys at this level? It's a hair between about 5 of them. Passing up Jagga would be a big risk and Langford looks like a mini Bont. Tough job AFL talent scouting.
 
Why the Elijah criticism all of a sudden? Thought he, like most of the team, was sensational when we were winning. He trailed off at the end, like 90% of the team, but that doesn’t suddenly mean he’s no good. He’s an elite runner, takes risks, and has a bit of X factor about him, and showed plenty for a bloke that had played 14 games prior to this season.

Everyone was very high on him all season too. I know a lot people may be bored, but rewriting history isn’t the way
 
Luke Shuey won the rising star in his third year having played 6 games in his first two years on the list.

Kai Lohmann just starred in a flag after playing 8 games in his first two years on the lions list.

Plenty of examples of the opposite as well with players who burned brightly early but flamed out just as quickly. Jayden Stevenson, Chad Wiegard, Lewis Taylor etc.
Dempsey winning the rising star in his 3rd year this season too
 

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I've actually cooled on Elijah a little bit. He tailed off later in the year IMO. His lack of pace and urgency at times took me from excited to cautious. Has the skill and poise, but I'm not counting on him to be an A grader just yet.
I know this is a ND thread, but haven't EH and OH employed a running coach like H and Cripps? Am expecting a step up from EH this year...
 
Fox Footy Phantom

Blues taking Jagga Smith, Crows taking Langford. Draper sliding to the Saints at 8.

What a topsy turvy draft year this is.
 
I really think this entire draft period is a fascinating psycho emotional watch.


Following the finals series, we would’ve been falling over ourselves at the thought of being able to add any one of Sid Draper, Jagga Smith, FOS, Harvey Langford to our midfield.

One month later, and now that they are available to us, we sit back and try to point out every flaw that each of them have to convince ourselves not to add them. 😂

“Drapers kicking on the run isn’t great”

“Jagga, goes backwards too much and doesn’t take enough ground”

“FOS seems too flakey”

“Langford isn’t a POD for our midfield and isn’t quick enough”

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If the selection was purely on needs Draper looks the one.

Question is for Pick 3 do we go purely needs or simply the best player?

Love to be a fly on the wall for the discussions between Austin, Voss and the recruiting team and hear their true thoughts
"best" or 'better' is very subjective...

Not possible to say Smith or Draper is 'better' than a FOS or Lalor...

You can say (100% factually) that Draper's skill set fits our needs very well and that his exposed form at senior level suggest he will start round 1 and be a significant contributor from the get go.

Lalor is a forward/mid, FOS similar... has to be some doubts on FOS imo, injury wise...

Smith - I read all this stuff he could play as a small forward? Really, any history there?

C. Durdin says hi.

Draper for me.
 
Going by vibes, predictions and rumours, I think our preference order is:

Smith
FOS
Draper/Langford tied.

1. Richmond Lalor/FOS
2. North FOS, Adelaide Smith, Richmond Lalor/FOS
3. Carlton Smith/FOS

So we will get Smith if the Crows don't jump us, and if they do then we get FOS. If FOS and Smith are gone, I have no clue where we rate Lalor, but I'm thinking below Draper and Langford.

Are we concerned about Draper's back? Or potential go home factor for the die-hard Crows supporter? Probably not overly, but they are still half ticks in the 'cons' column.

I'd be good with Smith. Most natural footballer of the lot. His vision and ability to take the highest percentage option every time is unmatched for mine.
 

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It's hard to get invested in this pick as most of us are convinced SOS is going to screw us on Ben's bid, or if not, Port will right before us.
 
"best" or 'better' is very subjective...

Not possible to say Smith or Draper is 'better' than a FOS or Lalor...

You can say (100% factually) that Draper's skill set fits our needs very well and that his exposed form at senior level suggest he will start round 1 and be a significant contributor from the get go.

Lalor is a forward/mid, FOS similar... has to be some doubts on FOS imo, injury wise...

Smith - I read all this stuff he could play as a small forward? Really, any history there?

C. Durdin says hi.

Draper for me.

I'm curious why there are doubts on FOS injury wise, when Draper has the pars defect concern?
 
Can ignore that phantom. Not based on any intel. Its just who the journo thinks clubs should take.

That's what I'm thinking. Fox Footy is using actual late mail ... for what that's worth.
 

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