Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

Rumor summary September 30

• Cal Twomey confirms we are interested in James Peatling (link)
• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  Rory Sloane

  Age

  34

  Ht

  183cm

  Wt

  87kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  23.7

  5star

  K

  11.7

  4star

  HB

  11.9

  5star

  M

  3.5

  4star

  T

  6.6

  5star

  CL

  5.7

  5star

  D

  15.3

  4star

  K

  7.3

  3star

  HB

  8.0

  4star

  M

  1.3

  1star

  T

  3.3

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  CL

  4.2

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  D

  22.2

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  K

  8.6

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  HB

  13.6

  5star

  M

  3.2

  4star

  T

  6.0

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  CL

  4.6

  5star

  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  Clayton Oliver

  Age

  27

  Ht

  189cm

  Wt

  88kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  27.8

  5star

  K

  9.5

  4star

  HB

  18.4

  5star

  M

  3.2

  3star

  T

  6.3

  5star

  CL

  6.3

  5star

  D

  25.1

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  K

  11.1

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  HB

  14.0

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  M

  3.6

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  T

  5.6

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  CL

  5.9

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  D

  19.2

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  K

  4.6

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  HB

  14.6

  5star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  4.4

  5star

  CL

  3.8

  5star

  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumor summary October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  Darcy Fogarty

  Age

  25

  Ht

  194cm

  Wt

  100kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  8.5

  2star

  K

  5.7

  2star

  HB

  2.8

  2star

  M

  3.7

  4star

  T

  1.7

  4star

  G

  1.2

  4star

  D

  6.3

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.3

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.3

  3star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  8.0

  2star

  K

  5.4

  2star

  HB

  2.6

  3star

  M

  3.4

  4star

  T

  2.6

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  G

  1.0

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  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)
• Tom Morris claims the race for Peatling is down to GWS, Adelaide or a Victorian club (link)

Rumor summary October 2

• Ricciuto claims we will announce a director of coaching this week (link)
• GWS have upped their offer for Peatling to four years (link)
• Twomey claims the Peatling decision is down to Adelaide, GWS and Western Bulldogs (link)
• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)
• Kymbo says the Peatling decision is down to Adelaide or GWS (link)
• Poster claims Peatling has decided to stay in Sydney (link)
• Poster claims our offer for Peatling is the best in terms of dollars by far (link)
• We've landed Murray Davis from the Brisbane Lions as coaching director (link)

 

[rabidcrow]

If he was being announced as a line coach you'd find the reaction would be completely different.

The reality is he's coming into a role (Director of Coaching) that he's arguably not completely qualified for.

That's the issue people have with this.

The big clubs have no issue pulling high quality candidates while we have to resort to plucking someone from obscurity, putting him into the position and hoping that he'll deliver.

We essentially did the same thing with Adam Kelly.

Who are the high profile coaching directors around the place. Do we have a list of who has those roles at other clubs?


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[WaynesWorld19]

It’s been known he’s looking for higher roles so I think he goes to Carlton as CEO

I agree ....wasn't he also targeted for a Tassie Role

I struggle to see what the attraction of the ADEL role would be .....

 

[George Kramer]

Why? Just because he isn’t a ‘name’ doesn’t mean he definitely wouldn’t be well regarded

I’ve given more reasons than just because he isn’t a name though

 

[adelaidecrows]

Or perhaps the AFL could make an exception - to help the Cats out after a tough finish to the year


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Well they have done that before

 

[George Kramer]

He would’ve required an endorsement from Chris Fagan, I can’t see why that isn’t enough for people who didn’t know who he was 3 hours ago.

What you reckon Fagan wouldn’t have endorsed him?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Who are the high profile coaching directors around the place. Do we have a list of who has those roles at other clubs?


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This reaction reminds me of people going off re us drafting someone they’ve never heard of

And I’ve been guilty of it myself before

Without the inside info it’s tough to know what an acquisition this guy might be , time will tell but has a few things going for him

High profile doesn’t always mean best candidate either

 

[relapse]

Nothing like kelly really, davis has been involved with a successful club
Time will tell if it's a good appointment, but that's true for anyone
Plenty of well known names end up being failures too

Of course it is

Adam Kelly was CEO of East Fremantle and then General Manger of Football with the SANFL.

We looked at his experience and in the absence of higher qualified candidates, we hoped that he could step up and perform.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Nicks 'Right hand man' ... he is going to be very busy

Good with a fly swat I'm told...

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Of course it is

Adam Kelly was CEO of East Fremantle and then General Manger of Football with the SANFL.

We looked at his experience and in the absence of higher qualified candidates, we hoped that he could step up and perform.

We probably should have done some referee checks though...

 

[GreyCrow]

As far as I'm aware Murray Davis only has assistant coaching experience, so he is being promoted into a new role without an equivalent experience base

Again we have someone learning on the job

 

[Runnin Blue]

Can someone make a coaching pissing contest thread and move the conversation over there?

You guys are crazy.

 

[Syd Crow]

Good with a fly swat I'm told...

A critical skill set for Nick's right hand man!

 

[GreyCrow]

Someone like Justin Leppitch? A failed senior coach that had a toxic history at the Lions as a coach, but is a well credentialled assistant coach. We are getting someone in that is highly respected by a premiership winning club and has developed AA players like Harris Andrews since draft day.

Where did I even mention Leppitsch. I couldnt begin to say how little I think of him on a year to year basis let alone day to day

 

[whattagun07]

Can someone make a coaching pissing contest thread and move the conversation over there?

You guys are crazy.

100%
My favourite thread has descended today

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Again we have someone learning on the job

Wouldn’t we want to know the role first though ?

I’d love to be such an expert without having any of the info in front of me

 

[latinoheat]

How does Geelong actually get Smith and Oliver.
You'd presume Dogs want a first and a second.
Like Pick 15 and F2.

Unless Oliver for a third rounder actually happens.

Smith would be a top 10 pick I rekon .

And if ports are asking for 2 firsts for Houston , smith would be worth twice that .

In terms of trade targets

Smith > Bolton > Houston > Rioli

 

[adelaidecrows]

Is that what a director of coaching does?

Brendan Bolton was director of coaching above Alistair Clarkson after being his assistant and then an epic failure as a senior coach. Then straight back to being an assistant. Can't see him telling Clarko anything lol.

Now he's a director of coaching and an assistant coach at Collingwood.

I'd really like to see what the role description is.

Me too. I dont think its about telling a coach what to do per say. There job is to not be a yes man. A sounding board for the coach to run ideas, justify their programs. Basically keeps the coach on a consistent path, provide feedback while over seeing the entire coaching department. Everyone needs constructive feedback and you need guys who wont turn into a yes man that a coach can walk all over. I suspect this is what they want for Nicks. Someone with the time to oversee everything and help Nicks in those areas.

 

[GreyCrow]

Wouldn’t we want to know the role first though ?

I’d love to be such an expert without having any of the info in front of me

The tweet said coaching director

A role he has never held

ie learning on the job

 

[George Kramer]

This reaction reminds me of people going off re us drafting someone they’ve never heard of

And I’ve been guilty of it myself before

Without the inside info it’s tough to know what an acquisition this guy might be , time will tell but has a few things going for him

High profile doesn’t always mean best candidate either

That’s because you’re not getting it. Let’s say the club through all their research thought he was the best man for the job, went for him and got him, fine.

But the chances of that actually being the case given all you know about our club and our difficulties? Especially when it’s being reported in the media how difficult we were finding it to fill the role. Do you think being the coaching director of the Adelaide Crows, overseeing Nicks and his band of quality coaches would be a sought after gig?

What do think is more plausible. We nabbed the best candidate with no experience in the job or worked our way down a long list?

I suppose some of us are just disappointed that we hoped we might have actually pulled off a coup and actually got the experienced targets we were after. But we clearly haven’t.

It might turn out to be great appointment and then awesome. But at this stage it’s just hope and wishful thinking and weren’t you hoping for more?

 

[119others]

Not gonna happen unfort re Wright

That was always the most likely outcome but surely Balme comes into play then?

 

[Danger in Texas]

The tweet said coaching director

A role he has never held

ie learning on the job

You make it sound like he’s never coached in his life

It’s more responsibility than the roles he’s had at the Lions, but it’s not like he has to learn about a whole new field

 

[jackster83]

Good with a fly swat I'm told...

 

[119others]

I agree ....wasn't he also targeted for a Tassie Role

I struggle to see what the attraction of the ADEL role would be .....

Esp as he could go back into the Pies, the biggest club in the land, in the same role AND stay in his adopted state. Or Blues CEO. Or AFL house…

 

[GreyCrow]

You make it sound like he’s never coached in his life

Never said that at all and if you look at my first post on this I wish him well

It’s more responsibility than the roles he’s had at the Lions, but it’s not like he has to learn about a whole new field

ie learning on the job

I wish people would admit it and move on. I hope he does well. I'm just annoyed that we continue this idea that we are a club that allows people to learn on the job

Face it we are now a feeder club

 

[Danger in Texas]

Never said that at all and if you look at my first post on this I wish him well



ie learning on the job

I wish people would admit it and move on. I hope he does well. I'm just annoyed that we continue this idea that we are a club that allows people to learn on the job

Face it we are now a feeder club

That’s a very broad definition of “learning on the job”, that’s all I’ll say there