Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

I've deleted confirmed information

Rumor summary September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
  9

  Rory Sloane

  Age

  34

  Ht

  183cm

  Wt

  87kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  23.7

  5star

  K

  11.7

  4star

  HB

  11.9

  5star

  M

  3.5

  4star

  T

  6.6

  5star

  CL

  5.7

  5star

  D

  15.3

  4star

  K

  7.3

  3star

  HB

  8.0

  4star

  M

  1.3

  1star

  T

  3.3

  4star

  CL

  4.2

  5star

  D

  22.2

  5star

  K

  8.6

  4star

  HB

  13.6

  5star

  M

  3.2

  4star

  T

  6.0

  5star

  CL

  4.6

  5star

  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
  13

  Clayton Oliver

  Age

  27

  Ht

  189cm

  Wt

  88kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  27.8

  5star

  K

  9.5

  4star

  HB

  18.4

  5star

  M

  3.2

  3star

  T

  6.3

  5star

  CL

  6.3

  5star

  D

  25.1

  5star

  K

  11.1

  4star

  HB

  14.0

  5star

  M

  3.6

  4star

  T

  5.6

  5star

  CL

  5.9

  5star

  D

  19.2

  5star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  14.6

  5star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  4.4

  5star

  CL

  3.8

  5star

  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumor summary October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
  32

  Darcy Fogarty

  Age

  25

  Ht

  194cm

  Wt

  100kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  8.5

  2star

  K

  5.7

  2star

  HB

  2.8

  2star

  M

  3.7

  4star

  T

  1.7

  4star

  G

  1.2

  4star

  D

  6.3

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.3

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.3

  3star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  8.0

  2star

  K

  5.4

  2star

  HB

  2.6

  3star

  M

  3.4

  4star

  T

  2.6

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumor summary October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumor summary October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 7

• No new rumors, although Justin Reid confirmed we'll use pick 28 on Neal-Bullen

 

[Executive Landlord]

Rapid fire questions with Alex Neal-Bullen

The former Dee joined the Crows through a trade on Monday

www.afc.com.au

Which new teammates are you looking forward to playing alongside?

"Keaysy (Ben Keays) and Murph (Lachlan Murphy), two forward flankers, love that."

Jesus

 

[Scorpus]

Elite trolling from Neal-Bullen

 

[Vader]

We've delisted Parnell and Hamill. Their spots could be used to transfer Smith and Laird. Probably wishful thinking but it should happen.

I'll spell it out for you in slow time. Here is the list mathematics since the start of the 2024 season.

We started the 2024 season with 38 senior list players and 4 rookie list players. Since then...
Turray (MSD) - IN - 38 senior 5 rookie
This is where we ended the season. Since then...
Sloane (ret) - OUT - 37 senior 5 rookie
Hamill (delist) - OUT - 37 senior 4 rookie
Parnell (delist) - OUT - 37 senior 3 rookie
McHenry (delist) - OUT - 36 senior 3 rookie
Gollant (delist) - OUT - 35 senior 3 rookie
Himmelberg (FA) - OUT - 34 senior 3 rookie
Cumming (FA) - IN - 35 senior 3 rookie
ANB (trade) - IN - 36 senior 3 rookie

When Peatling arrives, it will be 37 senior 3 rookie. That leaves just 2 vacancies combined, across our senior and Cat A rookie lists.

The AFL mandates that clubs make a minimum of 3 selections at the ND, with rookie upgrades counting towards the total. The only way we can satisfy this is by upgrading 1 rookie (most likely Keane), and transferring 2 contracted players from the senior list to the rookie list. This will leave us with 36 senior and 4 rookie.

The process of transferring players from the senior list to the rookie list requires them to be delisted before the ND, and then re-drafted in the RD. Thus, we can look forward to 2 senior listed players being delisted at some point, with the media release noting that we are committed to re-drafting them in the RD.

It is possible that Smith will be one of these transferred players. It is extremely unlikely that Laird will be transferred.

The only way we end up with any additional draft selections is if one of our contracted players is delisted or traded, or if one of the delisted senior players signs with another club as a DFA. None of these are likely outcomes.

** All the above calculations ignore Gallagher, who is a Cat B rookie. Cat B rookies are additional to the maximum 42 senior + Cat A rookie list players.

 

[Syd Crow]

Elite trolling from Neal-Bullen

I did find it kind of odd for him to name both players who he would be competing with, especially since one won the club champion award (and you would assume is definitely best 22 next year) and the other clearly did not.

 

[The Karma Bus]

Rapid fire questions with Alex Neal-Bullen

The former Dee joined the Crows through a trade on Monday

www.afc.com.au

Which new teammates are you looking forward to playing alongside?

"Keaysy (Ben Keays) and Murph (Lachlan Murphy), two forward flankers, love that."

Bit of a joker too i see...

 

[Executive Landlord]

I did find it kind of odd for him to name both players who he would be competing with, especially since one won the club champion award (and you would assume is definitely best 22 next year) and the other clearly did not.

Probably because Nicks has said he will line up along side them

 

[crow2crow]

I'll spell it out for you in slow time. Here is the list mathematics since the start of the 2024 season.

We started the 2024 season with 38 senior list players and 4 rookie list players. Since then...
MSD - Turray IN - 38 senior 5 rookie
This is where we ended the season. Since then...
Sloane (ret) - OUT - 37 senior 5 rookie
Hamill (delist) - OUT - 37 senior 4 rookie
Parnell (delist) - OUT - 37 senior 3 rookie
McHenry (delist) - OUT - 36 senior 3 rookie
Gollant (delist) - OUT - 35 senior 3 rookie
Himmelberg (FA) - OUT - 34 senior 3 rookie
Cumming (FA) - IN - 35 senior 3 rookie
ANB (trade) - IN - 36 senior 3 rookie

When Peatling arrives, it will be 37 senior 3 rookie. That leaves just 2 vacancies combined, across out senior and Cat A rookie lists.

The AFL mandates that clubs make a minimum of 3 selections at the ND, with rookie upgrades counting towards the total. The only way we can satisfy this is by upgrading 1 rookie (most likely Keane), and transferring 2 contracted players from the senior list to the rookie list. This will leave us with 36 senior and 4 rookie.

The process of transferring players from the senior list to the rookie list requires them to be delisted before the ND, and then re-drafted in the RD. Thus, we can look forward to 2 senior listed players being delisted at some point, with the media release noting that we are committed to re-drafting them in the RD.

It is possible that Smith will be one of these transferred players. It is extremely unlikely that Laird will be transferred.

The only way we end up with any additional draft selections is if one of our contracted players is delisted or traded, or if one of the delisted senior players signs with another club as a DFA. None of these are likely outcomes.

** All the above calculations ignore Gallagher, who is a Cat B rookie. Cat B rookies are additional to the maximum 42 senior + Cat A rookie list players.

God you're patient. How many more times are you expected to spell it out for them? ffs

 

[clinto69]

I'll spell it out for you in slow time. Here is the list mathematics since the start of the 2024 season.

We started the 2024 season with 38 senior list players and 4 rookie list players. Since then...
Turray (MSD) - IN - 38 senior 5 rookie
This is where we ended the season. Since then...
Sloane (ret) - OUT - 37 senior 5 rookie
Hamill (delist) - OUT - 37 senior 4 rookie
Parnell (delist) - OUT - 37 senior 3 rookie
McHenry (delist) - OUT - 36 senior 3 rookie
Gollant (delist) - OUT - 35 senior 3 rookie
Himmelberg (FA) - OUT - 34 senior 3 rookie
Cumming (FA) - IN - 35 senior 3 rookie
ANB (trade) - IN - 36 senior 3 rookie

When Peatling arrives, it will be 37 senior 3 rookie. That leaves just 2 vacancies combined, across out senior and Cat A rookie lists.

The AFL mandates that clubs make a minimum of 3 selections at the ND, with rookie upgrades counting towards the total. The only way we can satisfy this is by upgrading 1 rookie (most likely Keane), and transferring 2 contracted players from the senior list to the rookie list. This will leave us with 36 senior and 4 rookie.

The process of transferring players from the senior list to the rookie list requires them to be delisted before the ND, and then re-drafted in the RD. Thus, we can look forward to 2 senior listed players being delisted at some point, with the media release noting that we are committed to re-drafting them in the RD.

It is possible that Smith will be one of these transferred players. It is extremely unlikely that Laird will be transferred.

The only way we end up with any additional draft selections is if one of our contracted players is delisted or traded, or if one of the delisted senior players signs with another club as a DFA. None of these are likely outcomes.

** All the above calculations ignore Gallagher, who is a Cat B rookie. Cat B rookies are additional to the maximum 42 senior + Cat A rookie list players.

Great summary. Thank you!

 

[BunjiMC]

I'll spell it out for you in slow time. Here is the list mathematics since the start of the 2024 season.

We started the 2024 season with 38 senior list players and 4 rookie list players. Since then...
Turray (MSD) - IN - 38 senior 5 rookie
This is where we ended the season. Since then...
Sloane (ret) - OUT - 37 senior 5 rookie
Hamill (delist) - OUT - 37 senior 4 rookie
Parnell (delist) - OUT - 37 senior 3 rookie
McHenry (delist) - OUT - 36 senior 3 rookie
Gollant (delist) - OUT - 35 senior 3 rookie
Himmelberg (FA) - OUT - 34 senior 3 rookie
Cumming (FA) - IN - 35 senior 3 rookie
ANB (trade) - IN - 36 senior 3 rookie

When Peatling arrives, it will be 37 senior 3 rookie. That leaves just 2 vacancies combined, across out senior and Cat A rookie lists.

The AFL mandates that clubs make a minimum of 3 selections at the ND, with rookie upgrades counting towards the total. The only way we can satisfy this is by upgrading 1 rookie (most likely Keane), and transferring 2 contracted players from the senior list to the rookie list. This will leave us with 36 senior and 4 rookie.

The process of transferring players from the senior list to the rookie list requires them to be delisted before the ND, and then re-drafted in the RD. Thus, we can look forward to 2 senior listed players being delisted at some point, with the media release noting that we are committed to re-drafting them in the RD.

It is possible that Smith will be one of these transferred players. It is extremely unlikely that Laird will be transferred.

The only way we end up with any additional draft selections is if one of our contracted players is delisted or traded, or if one of the delisted senior players signs with another club as a DFA. None of these are likely outcomes.

** All the above calculations ignore Gallagher, who is a Cat B rookie. Cat B rookies are additional to the maximum 42 senior + Cat A rookie list players.

So what you're saying is that we should split pick 4?

 

[Syd Crow]

So what you're saying is that we should split pick 4?

for more draft picks? lol

 

[Ciao Giacomo]

Berry literally signed a new contract with us - they are not trading him

Sam Berry extends with Crows

Berry has played 57 AFL games since being drafted

www.afc.com.au

So he would be the FIRST contracted player ever traded to another club?

I agree that he deserved another contract but now that we have recruited ANB, Peatling, Cumming and we expect a quality mid with pick 4, he must see that he opportunities may be limited. It may be in the best interests of both Berry and the AFC for him to find a new home.

 

[Vader]

So he would be the FIRST contracted player ever traded to another club?

I agree that he deserved another contract but now that we have recruited ANB, Peatling, Cumming and we expect a quality mid with pick 4, he must see that he opportunities may be limited. It may be in the best interests of both Berry and the AFC for him to find a new home.

Not happening in 2024. 2025 may be a different story.

 

[baldandbroke]

So he would be the FIRST contracted player ever traded to another club?

I agree that he deserved another contract but now that we have recruited ANB, Peatling, Cumming and we expect a quality mid with pick 4, he must see that he opportunities may be limited. It may be in the best interests of both Berry and the AFC for him to find a new home.

I think there is a rule about how old the newly inked contract is?

 

[triggyscrewedus]

I really like him but we have to leave out one of 2 x KPD, Worrell, Hinge, Laird, Max & Nank. And then there’s Milera.

Bond is Back pocket perfect. He can definitely have a role in that backline.
Worrell can play big and small, the others should be half back/wing rotation.
Laird can play sanfl
I'm looking forward to Bigman reporting that Max is training with our midfield this summer.. wishful thinking maybe.

 

[Cromulant]

I think there is a rule about how old the newly inked contract is?

Correct

 

[Vader]

I think there is a rule about how old the newly inked contract is?

I'm not aware of any specific rules preventing it - but it is NEVER done in practice.

 

[Syd Crow]

I'm not aware of any specific rules preventing it - but it is NEVER done in practice.

Like the Pirate Code?

 

[Numinous]

Which new teammates are you looking forward to playing alongside?

"Keaysy (Ben Keays) and Murph (Lachlan Murphy), two forward flankers, love that."

How many flanks does he think a football oval has?

 

[Ciao Giacomo]

I'm not aware of any specific rules preventing it - but it is NEVER done in practice.

Surely there is a Geelong exemption that we can apply for ?

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

Geelong get away with it, 'Sorry, we no longer have pick 28'.

He is out of contract and has nominated a club. I think it will be alright.

GWS want future picks anyway for academy players, they already have 3 first rounders this year

 

[Pea Nut]

People wanting some change back in the trade for ANB are forgetting that we don't have the list spots available to take extra picks to the draft this year. As Vader has clearly and repeatedly explained. With the list being so full, any moves we make would have to be on draft night.

 

[Stripple]

People wanting some change back in the trade for ANB are forgetting that we don't have the list spots available to take extra picks to the draft this year. As Vader has clearly and repeatedly explained. With the list being so full, any moves we make would have to be on draft night.

Melbourne's future 3rd?

 

[Pea Nut]

Melbourne's future 3rd?

All the suggestions I saw were for picks in this years draft.

 

[latinoheat]

I'll spell it out for you in slow time. Here is the list mathematics since the start of the 2024 season.

We started the 2024 season with 38 senior list players and 4 rookie list players. Since then...
Turray (MSD) - IN - 38 senior 5 rookie
This is where we ended the season. Since then...
Sloane (ret) - OUT - 37 senior 5 rookie
Hamill (delist) - OUT - 37 senior 4 rookie
Parnell (delist) - OUT - 37 senior 3 rookie
McHenry (delist) - OUT - 36 senior 3 rookie
Gollant (delist) - OUT - 35 senior 3 rookie
Himmelberg (FA) - OUT - 34 senior 3 rookie
Cumming (FA) - IN - 35 senior 3 rookie
ANB (trade) - IN - 36 senior 3 rookie

When Peatling arrives, it will be 37 senior 3 rookie. That leaves just 2 vacancies combined, across our senior and Cat A rookie lists.

The AFL mandates that clubs make a minimum of 3 selections at the ND, with rookie upgrades counting towards the total. The only way we can satisfy this is by upgrading 1 rookie (most likely Keane), and transferring 2 contracted players from the senior list to the rookie list. This will leave us with 36 senior and 4 rookie.

The process of transferring players from the senior list to the rookie list requires them to be delisted before the ND, and then re-drafted in the RD. Thus, we can look forward to 2 senior listed players being delisted at some point, with the media release noting that we are committed to re-drafting them in the RD.

It is possible that Smith will be one of these transferred players. It is extremely unlikely that Laird will be transferred.

The only way we end up with any additional draft selections is if one of our contracted players is delisted or traded, or if one of the delisted senior players signs with another club as a DFA. None of these are likely outcomes.

** All the above calculations ignore Gallagher, who is a Cat B rookie. Cat B rookies are additional to the maximum 42 senior + Cat A rookie list players.

Save this for next time the question is asked

 

[Crow till I die]

People wanting some change back in the trade for ANB are forgetting that we don't have the list spots available to take extra picks to the draft this year. As Vader has clearly and repeatedly explained. With the list being so full, any moves we make would have to be on draft night.

It could have been a future pick back - ie 3rd or 4th rounder