Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

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Rumors from September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  Rory Sloane

  Age

  34

  Ht

  183cm

  Wt

  87kg

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  Mid

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  Last 5

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  23.7

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  K

  11.7

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  11.9

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  M

  3.5

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  T

  6.6

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  CL

  5.7

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  D

  15.3

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  7.3

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  1.3

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  8.6

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  13.6

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  M

  3.2

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  T

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  4.6

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  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  Clayton Oliver

  Age

  27

  Ht

  189cm

  Wt

  88kg

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  Mid

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  27.8

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  6.3

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  6.3

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  M

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  T

  4.4

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  CL

  3.8

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  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumors from October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  Darcy Fogarty

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  25

  Ht

  194cm

  Wt

  100kg

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  Fwd

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  8.5

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  K

  5.7

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  3.7

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  T

  1.7

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  G

  1.2

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  D

  6.3

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  K

  4.0

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  2.3

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  M

  3.0

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  T

  2.3

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  1.0

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  D

  8.0

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  K

  5.4

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  2.6

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  M

  3.4

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  2.6

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  G

  1.0

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  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumors from October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumors from October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumors from October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 8

• Jon Ralph claims we are not prepared to use a future 2nd on Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 9

• Graham Wright will not join Adelaide, instead taking up the Carlton CEO role (link)
• Tom Morris claims the Peatling trade will involve future 2nd and 3rd round picks, and we have offered him a four year deal at about $600k per season (link)
• Riley Beveridge claims we asked GWS if they were interested in one of our players in the Peatling trade (link)

Rumor summary October 10

• Collingwood are interested in Justin Reid as their new head of football (link)
• GWS want our future 2nd and pick 46 for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 11

• Poster claims we are attempting to lure Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, maybe in 2025 (link)
• Tom Morris claims we will do the Peatling deal for pick 46 and a future 2nd provided there are other late pick swaps (link)

Rumor summary October 13

• Tom Morris suggests we have offered a trade involving a swap of future 2nds for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 15

• After West Coast got absolutely rogered, Cal Twomey claims we have offered either two future 3rds for Peatling, or a swap of 2nds and a future 3rd (link)
• We have interest in Sam Davidson from Richmond VFL (link)
• Mitch Cleary claims some GWS players are facing suspensions from the AFL due to behaviour at an end of season event (link)
• Brett Montgomery is staying at GWS, meaning we were unsuccessful at luring him (link)

Rumor summary October 16

• Stalemate on the Peatling trade as of 4pm, with us threatening to send him to the PSD (link)

 

[Cromulant]

yeh it sounds very personal and most of its going over my head because i don't understand the background of the hatred for craigy. so i'm staying out of it even though I was somehow dragged into it.

Craigy had/has his faults, preparing his players and squads physically was not one of them.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Sport is all about peaking at the right time.

Olympic athletes train to be at the peak of their fitness and form at the exact moments to ensure maximum chances of success in the big events (worlds, olympics, comm games etc.).

I remember being told around the time of the 97/98 that the bulk of the credit behind the scenes for the 97/98 GF victories was given to Neil Craig who had the team peak at exactly the tight time.. scrape into the final 8 but with a team on the cusp of top fitness and form.

most of the credit from joe public obviously went to Blighty..

 

[rabidcrow]

Tassie appeals as there is zero expectations for win / loss.

I think Bucks would only go around again to get a flag. He has never won one? Asa key part he was an assistant from memory

I don’t think he would coach for any other reason. Big VIC based media personality - he isn’t going to get paid much more to coach

Success would be the only reason ( unless the AFL paid him an ambassadorial wage for Tassie)


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[WaynesWorld19]

I hate seeing any Crows official use the word 'Aggressive' when referring to the offseason for the AFC. They clearly have 0 concept of what that word means or entails.

Aggressive with regards to list management would have been calling time on Tex and Smith (as good as they have been), followed by immediately delisting at least 5 players the Monday after our season was done.

Aggressive with trading would be going to the likes of Finn Callaghan, Will Day, Chad Warner etc and telling them we will pay them DOUBLE. Imagine being told you could earn DOUBLE your salary by doing the exact same job with a competitor. You would absolutely do it even if it meant moving.

Aggressive with regards to coaching (in the absence of doing the obvious and sacking Nicks) would have been for Silvers to say to VB, Burns and Kelly 'thanks for your services' and coming out telling the club we will be on the hunt to secure some quality senior assistants and a new Football GM. 'Send your resumes to me as we will be paying the best $ in the league' - screw the VFL soft cap garbage rules.

Sure - we may or may not have done some of the above behind the scenes, but its time to put our money where our mouths are and do something that remotely looks 'aggressive'. Ive yet to see it.

I think you're missing the meaning of "aggressive" .....you can be aggressive in sport or business, and still not win

Was the offer to Gulden being aggressive .....it certainly was a very unlike Crows move ....so IMO that was out of character

What about the Oliver play .....I call that an aggressive move

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I think Bucks would only go around again to get a flag. He has never won one? Asa key part he was an assistant from memory

I don’t think he would coach for any other reason. Big VIC based media personality - he isn’t going to get paid much more to coach

Success would be the only reason ( unless the AFL paid him an ambassadorial wage for Tassie)


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I'm not sure that would be his driving motivation .....it was IMO, to coach his beloved COLL

Can he muster the same dedication for another Club ....doubt it, otherwise he would have hopped back into the Coaches chair by now

 

[crow2crow]

I hate seeing any Crows official use the word 'Aggressive' when referring to the offseason for the AFC. They clearly have 0 concept of what that word means or entails.

Aggressive with regards to list management would have been calling time on Tex and Smith (as good as they have been), followed by immediately delisting at least 5 players the Monday after our season was done.

Aggressive with trading would be going to the likes of Finn Callaghan, Will Day, Chad Warner etc and telling them we will pay them DOUBLE. Imagine being told you could earn DOUBLE your salary by doing the exact same job with a competitor. You would absolutely do it even if it meant moving.

Aggressive with regards to coaching (in the absence of doing the obvious and sacking Nicks) would have been for Silvers to say to VB, Burns and Kelly 'thanks for your services' and coming out telling the club we will be on the hunt to secure some quality senior assistants and a new Football GM. 'Send your resumes to me as we will be paying the best $ in the league' - screw the VFL soft cap garbage rules.

Sure - we may or may not have done some of the above behind the scenes, but its time to put our money where our mouths are and do something that remotely looks 'aggressive'. Ive yet to see it.

to be fair on player acquisition they tried to be agressive but couldnt get any matches on tinder. so we are left with targets others dont want to fill roles

on coaching again the media are saying they having trouble getting better coaching candidates to move states (because its not the top job because we keeping nix)

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

tim watson just called port the crows

is he ok?

You saw him coach the Saints right...

 

[crow2crow]

You saw him coach the Saints right...

good point.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I hate seeing any Crows official use the word 'Aggressive' when referring to the offseason for the AFC. They clearly have 0 concept of what that word means or entails.

Aggressive with regards to list management would have been calling time on Tex and Smith (as good as they have been), followed by immediately delisting at least 5 players the Monday after our season was done.

Aggressive with trading would be going to the likes of Finn Callaghan, Will Day, Chad Warner etc and telling them we will pay them DOUBLE. Imagine being told you could earn DOUBLE your salary by doing the exact same job with a competitor. You would absolutely do it even if it meant moving.

Aggressive with regards to coaching (in the absence of doing the obvious and sacking Nicks) would have been for Silvers to say to VB, Burns and Kelly 'thanks for your services' and coming out telling the club we will be on the hunt to secure some quality senior assistants and a new Football GM. 'Send your resumes to me as we will be paying the best $ in the league' - screw the VFL soft cap garbage rules.

Sure - we may or may not have done some of the above behind the scenes, but its time to put our money where our mouths are and do something that remotely looks 'aggressive'. Ive yet to see it.

Yeah, they are confusing aggressive & passive.

Actions speaks louder than words...

 

[1970crow]

Neil Craig left the Crows in 1999 to join the Olympic cycling team. The Crows went downhill that year.

End of 1999 and he returned 1 year later. He was gone for 1 season. The cult of Neil remains strong in so many. Neil was a good coach, not good enough on match day or tactically in terms of adjusting for specific opposition. He was able to work us very hard to gain a fitness edge in 1997/1998, but the genius behind it was Doctor Brian Sando. Craig's training methods broke a lot of players in the following years. The credit he receives for those flags is overstated. Just look at the rest of his history, failure everywhere he went.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I think you're missing the meaning of "aggressive" .....you can be aggressive in sport or business, and still not win

Was the offer to Gulden being aggressive .....it certainly was a very unlike Crows move ....so IMO that was out of character

What about the Oliver play .....I call that an aggressive move

You need to get a grasp of "ineffective" & "incompetent".

If you are effective & competent you find a way of getting it done!

 

[crow2crow]

You saw him coach the Saints right...

it cracked me up because remember when kochie cracked the shits at a journo for saying port adelaide power rather than port power or port adelaide football club. like seriously who cares....

anyway imagine his if a journo ie tim says port adelaide crows

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

it cracked me up because remember when kochie cracked the shits at a journo for saying port adelaide power rather than port power or port adelaide football club. like seriously who cares....

anyway imagine his if a journo ie tim says port adelaide crows

Well Biden called Zelnskyy Putin on the world stage.

 

[ABAB]

Yeah, they are confusing aggressive & passive.

Actions speaks louder than words...

Tried but didn't land the big fish in the last few years (also including the Oliver play last year) like we did with Dawson and Rankine the previous years, now we will "aggressively" give up a F1 for Lukosius who we clearly targeted since he was drafted by GCS.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Tried but didn't land the big fish in the last few years (also including the Oliver play last year) like we did with Dawson and Rankine the previous years, now we will "aggressively" give up a F1 for Lukosius who we clearly targeted since he was drafted by GCS.

There is smart aggressive - Dawson & Rankine.

Dumb aggressive - Gibbs.

 

[Floating Doughnut]

it cracked me up because remember when kochie cracked the shits at a journo for saying port adelaide power rather than port power or port adelaide football club. like seriously who cares....

anyway imagine his if a journo ie tim says port adelaide crows

They do, a lot.
It halts the false narrative that they are the same club, they spend thousands trying to make people believe this.
One of Nicks’ finest moments was calling them Port Power ! He knows how it irks them.

 

[Crows I Am]

It's our future first not this year. Could be 4 but club will be hoping it's more like 10-12

Problem is even pick 10-12 is way overs for Luko.

He is worth a pick somewhere around 20-30.

 

[jackster83]

Yeah, they are confusing aggressive & passive.

Actions speaks louder than words...

Desperate is the word I'm thinking of.

 

[Shifty Crow]

There is smart aggressive - Dawson & Rankine.

Dumb aggressive - Gibbs.

Aggressive doesn’t mean bringing in 6-7 players, it’s about targeting quality players for the role they play.


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[El Doederino]

Aggressive would also be delisting a bunch of players who are never going to make it. McHenry, Jones, Shoenberg, Hamill, Himmelberg, Parnell, Burgess, Gollant etc. We know where their limits are, and its solid SANFL standard. If any of those players play AFL next year, you know we are in trouble.

Clear the decks of the deadwood and aggressively approach some young talent with more upside.

 

[cleanhands]

End of 1999 and he returned 1 year later. He was gone for 1 season. The cult of Neil remains strong in so many. Neil was a good coach, not good enough on match day or tactically in terms of adjusting for specific opposition. He was able to work us very hard to gain a fitness edge in 1997/1998, but the genius behind it was Doctor Brian Sando. Craig's training methods broke a lot of players in the following years. The credit he receives for those flags is overstated. Just look at the rest of his history, failure everywhere he went.

So when did Docs magic wear out?

 

[Crow till I die]

So when did Docs magic wear out?

Never...by way of example look at balme's magic all these years later and we as a club could still greatly benefit from it. Bet you never would have thought that back in your day when he would send you guys out to beat up the opposition...and then play footy

 

[cleanhands]

Never...by way of example look at balme's magic all these years later and we as a club could still greatly benefit from it. Bet you never would have thought that back in your day when he would send you guys out to beat up the opposition...and then play footy

Not me

 

[GreyCrow]

Sport is all about peaking at the right time.

Olympic athletes train to be at the peak of their fitness and form at the exact moments to ensure maximum chances of success in the big events (worlds, olympics, comm games etc.).

I remember being told around the time of the 97/98 that the bulk of the credit behind the scenes for the 97/98 GF victories was given to Neil Craig who had the team peak at exactly the tight time.. scrape into the final 8 but with a team on the cusp of top fitness and form.

most of the credit from joe public obviously went to Blighty..

While this is true there was some mayo put on by Blight

He wanted other teams to be beaten before they started so said '' we are so fit we will outrun you at the end''

 

[Pilchard_Adams]

I think people are severely underestimating Luko. Was pretty damn good last year in an average side. Still only 24, and bigger guys take a little longer. Worth a 1st rounder easy. We could be cursing ourselves for playing hard ball and trying to get a bargain.

We were saying the same about rankine... imagine if we missed him.

I also feel with Draper in the pack of players possibly drafted from pick 3 to 10, we could see a live trade situation, drop from 4th to 7th and net a 2nd rounder in the process. If Draper is available at 4 I expect the phones to be running hot