Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

I've deleted confirmed information

Rumors from September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  Rory Sloane

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  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumors from October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumors from October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumors from October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumors from October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 8

• Jon Ralph claims we are not prepared to use a future 2nd on Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 9

• Graham Wright will not join Adelaide, instead taking up the Carlton CEO role (link)
• Tom Morris claims the Peatling trade will involve future 2nd and 3rd round picks, and we have offered him a four year deal at about $600k per season (link)
• Riley Beveridge claims we asked GWS if they were interested in one of our players in the Peatling trade (link)

Rumor summary October 10

• Collingwood are interested in Justin Reid as their new head of football (link)
• GWS want our future 2nd and pick 46 for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 11

• Poster claims we are attempting to lure Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, maybe in 2025 (link)
• Tom Morris claims we will do the Peatling deal for pick 46 and a future 2nd provided there are other late pick swaps (link)

Rumor summary October 13

• Tom Morris suggests we have offered a trade involving a swap of future 2nds for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 15

• After West Coast got absolutely rogered, Cal Twomey claims we have offered either two future 3rds for Peatling, or a swap of 2nds and a future 3rd (link)
• We have interest in Sam Davidson from Richmond VFL (link)
• Mitch Cleary claims some GWS players are facing suspensions from the AFL due to behaviour at an end of season event (link)
• Brett Montgomery is staying at GWS, meaning we were unsuccessful at luring him (link)

Rumor summary October 16

• Stalemate on the Peatling trade as of 4pm, with us threatening to send him to the PSD (link)

 

[Trigger13]

Didnt you say a few days ago both would be at Port ??

Nope. Just Luko. I said it would be so us to not get Cumming too. But he has chosen us

 

[ABAB]

Luko’s preference is Port (offer around 3.6m over 4 years). Cumming will be a crow. Come at me

It won't be just what Lukosius want but what GCS want and they don't want to pay any of his $2M for 2 years which is why they will be dealing with us hence the rumour F1 with pick 26 coming back. No doubt Port Power is able to absorb that $2M for 2 years if they don't bring in Perryman at the reported $850K at 7 years so they will likely end with Perryman and us with Cummings and Lukosius.

 

[Carmo]

You had Rooch saying Burns was stepping aside from Senior Assistant

Stepping aside isn't leaving though.

 

[Cromulant]

Stepping aside isn't leaving though.

True that.

Id be surprised if he went back into a pure assistant role.

He may, but I doubt he would stay there. He's more likely to coach Birdwood A grade lol.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Luko’s preference is Port (offer around 3.6m over 4 years). Cumming will be a crow. Come at me

Not one person in the AFL World believes Lukosus is a $900K a year player ......he's been dropped a couple of times from the GC team

So I'll cob wash this rumour

 

[spenze]

i have no problem with no cuts being made YET but not for the reasons you mention

valid reasons for me
1.,the new director coaching should have a say
2. we try to trade them not delist them (not berg)

there is nobody in the uncontracted including c burgers that we need and even if we dont get the three mentioned target i would rather load up at this draft

The reason they don't is they feel they can't bring a new player through the SANFL with too many rookies, it become demoralising for them and they don't want these kids wanting to leave. Basically, first or second year away from family, getting pummeled each week makes for a shit job and development.

We are hamstrung because we'd rather not be in the SANFL whilst it doesn't allow us to have decent top ups but we can't go anywhere else.

Port and us should just play a scratch match each week and leave that comp until we find better

 

[Trigger13]

It won't be just what Lukosius want but what GCS want and they don't want to pay any of his $2M for 2 years which is why they will be dealing with us hence the rumour F1 with pick 26 coming back. No doubt Port Power is able to absorb that $2M for 2 years if they don't bring in Perryman at the reported $850K at 7 years so they will likely end with Perryman and us with Cummings and Lukosius.

Fair point. I must stress that port is Luko’s preference. Doesn’t mean he gets there does it. I assume they will get it done though. They tend to do that

 

[Trigger13]

Not one person in the AFL World believes Lukosus is a $900K a year player ......he's been dropped a couple of times from the GC team

So I'll cob wash this rumour

Much of this wage is the backended portion of his current contract

 

[Tex Danger]

Stepping aside isn't leaving though.

I queried whether this could happen couple weeks back.

Him forfeiting senior title makes a lot of sense as that was a roadblock to us attracting better than him which we need, but as another normal assistant then the bar is lower (still questionable on performance)

Ideally he’s dropping that title because someone like Montgomery is coming in to take it, or it’s this floated coaching director.

But even if we didn’t then at least stripping the tithe would help when we’re approaching people for next year with that role being open. Not ideal but better than just letting him keep the title just because no one else came along.

I suspect thigh Montgomery comes in as senior and someone else like van Berlo is relegated to a development coach role (aligning with them all being contracted fir next year)

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Not one person in the AFL World believes Lukosus is a $900K a year player ......he's been dropped a couple of times from the GC team

So I'll cob wash this rumour

Well if his contract is $2m for the next two years, that is a sunk cost. So it comes down to how much per year for the remainder of a contract offer.

Ie it’s $800k per year for the final two years - which is believable given salary cap increases

 

[Carmo]

Cant believe McHenry would be still trying to stay with us...it's against HIS interests!? Our highly contested game does not suit a small gut running guy who's good at doing short hit-ups. He's be way better off at clubs with more open running game plans, like Collingwood or GWS to make two. The guy's mad not to try and get out, gonna sink his career by not making a move. Even just playing seconds for a year in the Eastern states where he'd dominate and make the headlines and likely be picked up mid year makes way more sense than trying to continue with us? Surely someone in the club that's all about "prioritizing others" has said this to him?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Much of this wage is the backended portion of his current contract

Even allowing for that, the rumoured offer is inflated ....you're saying Lukosius is almost going to be paid the back-ended portion of his Contract for 4 years

He's a $600K a year player for the extra 2 years tacked on .....closer to $500K, if the $1M per year is correct

 

[Vader]

A lot of players on holiday at the moment, so can only assume it was planned to have it later in the year.

They normally do the first round of cullings as soon as the Exit Interviews have been completed. This is then followed by a second round at the end of the trade period, when we know how many players we've brought in and what draft picks we have left.

This year they seem to have foregone the first round, saving everything up for the second.

At the end of the day it makes zero difference, other than fuelling the frustrations of impatient supporters wanting to see concrete actions after a bitterly disappointing season.

 

[MRB37]

You had Rooch saying Burns was stepping aside from Senior Assistant

He'll still be forwards coach though.

 

[Samcro24]

Not one person in the AFL World believes Lukosus is a $900K a year player ......he's been dropped a couple of times from the GC team

So I'll cob wash this rumour

Plenty examples of players getting more than they’re worth these days.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Luko’s preference is Port (offer around 3.6m over 4 years). Cumming will be a crow. Come at me

Best case result IMO

Paying up 25 for ANB is far from ideal but at least we get to keep F1. I think we would trade F2 into this year in that scenario (or keep Gollant - not my preference)

 

[Eddie Murphy]

Luko’s preference is Port (offer around 3.6m over 4 years). Cumming will be a crow. Come at me

If Luko is truly valued at a future 1st this is the best outcome for us

 

[Carmo]

Port and us should just play a scratch match each week and leave that comp until we find better

We should approach West Coast and freo and get them to field their own reserves and we play them, at least that way it's only once a month we play the same team.

Could also try a mix it with us playing SANFL as well.

 

[Cromulant]

He'll still be forwards coach though.

Its a sad state of affairs really.

 

[Danger in Texas]

If Luko is truly valued at a future 1st this is the best outcome for us

Means we retain flexibility for a possible NWM trade next year, too

 

[Mostyn]

Imagine a scenario where we miss cumming to Port as a free hit, miss Lukosius to Port and they only pay a 2nd rounder for him on a lower contract than we offered and we overpay for ANB and then proudly announce the re signing of McHenry.

Yes, let's just imagine if all the bad things happen.

 

[Mostyn]

So I’m assuming you were previously a different user name, can I ask who you were?

Kristof. For a few months i toyed with Mego Red, before being Mostyn.

 

[Mostyn]

For what it's worth, we'd already made delistings by this time last year. And that was only 1-2 weeks post-SANFL Finals exit.

Former first-round pick, ex-Pie among four Crows axed

The Crows have axed four players from their list

www.afl.com.au

I can't understand why we aren't already announcing cuts to deadweight like McHenry, Gollant, Parnell, regardless of our trade target plans... We're 15th and haven't played finals for 7 years - should be turning the list over much more aggressively.

Why do you want them done now, other than impatience and worry that they won't happen?

There's zero advantages in announcing them before you have to.

 

[Mutineer]

Not one person in the AFL World believes Lukosus is a $900K a year player ......he's been dropped a couple of times from the GC team

So I'll cob wash this rumour

Once wasn't it and straight back in the following week...under Dimma.

Only other time he's played VFL was when returning from a knee injury in 2022 and then straight back in the next week.

We get you dont like Jack but facts.

 

[Mostyn]

Means we retain flexibility for a possible NWM trade next year, too

I'm not interested in constantly kicking things down the road.

I'm completely happy to trade F1. I just don't want to waste it.