Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation (Rumours total 25, last 28th August)

[Captain Furious]

Would we get a better player at Pick 5 this year than Phillipou?

Berry and future first for Phillipou?
Take a mid with our first. Lalor?
Welsh FS with points.
Free agent Perryman.
Swap Keane for Petty (if true Keane wants out). If not happy to keep Keane.

That’d be a good offseason.

Then next year target Goad, Wanganeen-Milera and another free agent.

Why would you give up a player and first for Phillipou? Yes has talent for sure, but so do hundreds of kids. Right now he's playing 2nds for a bottom 4 side so you're not going to give up more for him than he was drafted for.

Perryman isn't coming here if Hawks are offering 4M over 5 years. Solid player but damn, he aint worth that and we shouldn't be in that bidding war.

Think we have better uses for the Keane pick - if it materializes - than another key defender. We know Petty isn't great forward and not sure he displaces any of Murray, Worrell or Butts. Injuries and trades happen for sure but right now, tall defenders are at the bottom of our list of needs.

 

[Sanders]

Could split pick 5 for 2 first rounders and trade one of them for phillipou

Easier said than done

 

[Mostyn]

You want to trade a likely top-5 pick in 2025 for pick 10 in 2024? I'd want a lot better deal than that.

Yeah, but you won't get it.

How are you proposing to get Phillipou?

 

[Mostyn]

Maybe that's too high. Good player but I think he has plateaued atm.

He's only three months older than Dan Curtin, to be fair.

 

[Mostyn]

Saints I doubt would take pick 10 for Phillipou unless he makes it clear and certain he's had enough and wants out and even then I think Lyon wouldn't let him go in contract after speaking so glowingly of his future numerous times.

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I guess it's comparing what he says to how he acts. Mattaes might hear that, but maybe doesn't believe it.

 

[Mostyn]

What would we expect to receive for Pedlar if he asked for a trade. Very similar example to Phillipou to compare to. Both taken around the same pick in the first round, both contracted until 2026. Similar career games and stat average.

What's the age difference?

 

[Vader]

Yeah, but you won't get it.

How are you proposing to get Phillipou?

I'm not

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[FullyBigKPro]

Im more getting nervous we will be tempted to do something left field and random with our pick ~5 this year.

In a draft choc full of prime potentially elite midfielders I feel like Reid/Ogilvie will be allergic to this and want to use Pick 5 to get 'experienced players' like Petty etc..

 

[FR0GGY]

Be ideal to keep pick 5 and get Philipou

 

[Trigger13]

Im more getting nervous we will be tempted to do something left field and random with our pick ~5 this year.

In a draft choc full of prime potentially elite midfielders I feel like Reid/Ogilvie will be allergic to this and want to use Pick 5 to get 'experienced players' like Petty etc..

wouldnt put it past this dumb, dumb club.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Im more getting nervous we will be tempted to do something left field and random with our pick ~5 this year.

In a draft choc full of prime potentially elite midfielders I feel like Reid/Ogilvie will be allergic to this and want to use Pick 5 to get 'experienced players' like Petty etc..

Agree.

As Mutineer will attest, I’m no draft expert.

But even I can look at the projected top 10 for this years draft and see a smorgasbord of mids to choose from. I can’t recall a draft so deep with so many mids at the pointy end for such a long time.

If there was ever one draft where the bog simple decision is to roll up, spend your chip and walk away with a quality bankable mid then it’s this year.

 

[dogs105]

Would he be someone likely to know?

He's someone who would "possibly" know. He is around AFL footballers more than the average person, but generally works with juniors. Don't know if this is coming from "the horse's mouth", or repeating gossip.

Does that make sense?

 

[Crows I Am]

What's the age difference?

About 18 months. That would push it slightly more in Phillipou's favour for his trade cost but not dramatically as both are still very young.

Comparing their career so far both very similar.

I would think both would be worth a mid to late first rounder.

 

[BACCS]

Hopefully Tex had a nice catchup with Cumming over the weekend while the Giants were in town... Justin Reid was also at the game. If he leaves GWS, the close relationship with Tex is our point of difference over other clubs; I can't imagine the money/years will be too different between clubs chasing him.

 

[George Kramer]

He's someone who would "possibly" know. He is around AFL footballers more than the average person, but generally works with juniors. Don't know if this is coming from "the horse's mouth", or repeating gossip.

Does that make sense?

Yes horses105

 

[George Kramer]

Hopefully Tex had a nice catchup with Cumming over the weekend while the Giants were in town... Justin Reid was also at the game. If he leaves GWS, the close relationship with Tex is our point of difference over other clubs; I can't imagine the money/years will be too different between clubs chasing him.

Why? Tex maybe has a year left.

 

[Jarman3]

Im more getting nervous we will be tempted to do something left field and random with our pick ~5 this year.

In a draft choc full of prime potentially elite midfielders I feel like Reid/Ogilvie will be allergic to this and want to use Pick 5 to get 'experienced players' like Petty etc..

We're the kind of club that would double down on burning pick 6 on McAsey by trading pick 5 for Petty to replace him.

 

[1990crow]

Hopefully Tex had a nice catchup with Cumming over the weekend while the Giants were in town... Justin Reid was also at the game. If he leaves GWS, the close relationship with Tex is our point of difference over other clubs; I can't imagine the money/years will be too different between clubs chasing him.

Have you heard he's Cumming?

 

[OccamsRazorRay]

Our future first could probably get the Freo pick 10. That'd be enough for Phillipou.

Very Very unlikely. Clubs would have a range that they think Crows would finish in next year, lets say 12th-6th or something. Clubs aren't going to trade at the bottom value of that, it will always be the higher. Do you not remember Gold Coast trying to get rid of their guaranteed Pick 10 to ANYONE who would take it, and it wasn't until Geelong's pick 21 or something that they finally offloaded it. Getting a player in sooner has value in of itself, so clubs are usually reluctant to part with picks they currently have, particularly in the 1st round, and especially for picks heading into the next year that are an unknown.

 

[Mutineer]

About 18 months. That would push it slightly more in Phillipou's favour for his trade cost but not dramatically as both are still very young.

Comparing their career so far both very similar.

I would think both would be worth a mid to late first rounder.

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Either your maths is sheizzen houssen or mine is?

18 months?

 

[Danger in Texas]

Phillipou would be a good get, but I’d really prefer it if he wasn’t contracted

 

[BACCS]

We're the kind of club that would double down on burning pick 6 on McAsey by trading pick 5 for Petty to replace him.

Or we are a club that picks up Murray and Keane cheaply the following season to fill that role? I mean seriously, at least get angry at things that are real.

 

[Captain Furious]

About 18 months. That would push it slightly more in Phillipou's favour for his trade cost but not dramatically as both are still very young.

Comparing their career so far both very similar.

I would think both would be worth a mid to late first rounder.

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I mean, c’mon. We all want to love Pedlar but we have as much chance of getting a 1st rounder for him as we do of getting Harley Reid next year. We were the only ones who considered him a 1st rounder 4 years ago and there’s been little to suggest we were right.

 

[fuic08]

Hopefully Tex had a nice catchup with Cumming over the weekend while the Giants were in town... Justin Reid was also at the game. If he leaves GWS, the close relationship with Tex is our point of difference over other clubs; I can't imagine the money/years will be too different between clubs chasing him.

I keep seeing it on here, but are Tex and Cumming actually mates?

 

[BACCS]

I keep seeing it on here, but are Tex and Cumming actually mates?

Yes, Tex has talked about Cumming several times on his regular radio slot over the years. Their families have been close since they were kids (even though Tex is a bit older).