Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

I've deleted confirmed information

Rumors from September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumors from October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumors from October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumors from October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumors from October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 8

• Jon Ralph claims we are not prepared to use a future 2nd on Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 9

• Graham Wright will not join Adelaide, instead taking up the Carlton CEO role (link)
• Tom Morris claims the Peatling trade will involve future 2nd and 3rd round picks, and we have offered him a four year deal at about $600k per season (link)
• Riley Beveridge claims we asked GWS if they were interested in one of our players in the Peatling trade (link)

Rumor summary October 10

• Collingwood are interested in Justin Reid as their new head of football (link)
• GWS want our future 2nd and pick 46 for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 11

• Poster claims we are attempting to lure Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, maybe in 2025 (link)
• Tom Morris claims we will do the Peatling deal for pick 46 and a future 2nd provided there are other late pick swaps (link)

Rumor summary October 13

• Tom Morris suggests we have offered a trade involving a swap of future 2nds for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 15

• After West Coast got absolutely rogered, Cal Twomey claims we have offered either two future 3rds for Peatling, or a swap of 2nds and a future 3rd (link)
• We have interest in Sam Davidson from Richmond VFL (link)
• Mitch Cleary claims some GWS players are facing suspensions from the AFL due to behaviour at an end of season event (link)
• Brett Montgomery is staying at GWS, meaning we were unsuccessful at luring him (link)

Rumor summary October 16

• Stalemate on the Peatling trade as of 4pm, with us threatening to send him to the PSD (link)

 

[Cromulant]

I imagine if we had Pick 5 in the draft you'd be wanting us to pick a Western Australian KPF.

I mean Buddy was Pick 5 and from WA, surely that is a winning formula that can just be applied across the board.

That's the best you've got ??

 

[WaynesWorld19]

It’s what the journo tweeted

How does the Journo know the role / title B4 the Crows have made an announcement

Do you believe McClures announcement on Clarry .....you can always trust McClure

 

[Crow till I die]

Oh totally, how could they possibly fit in the likes of Jed Bews, Jack Henry, Zach Guthrie, Tom Atkins, Oisin Mullin, Jake Kolodjashnij, Shaun mannagh, Lawson Humphries, Shannon Neale, plus an ancient Mitch Duncan, and Rhys Stanley.
Millionaire mile right there.

Hey..you only need to make it seem fair I guess. Its like they are the mafia of the AFL

 

[George Kramer]

But he isn’t announced as anything other than nicks ‘right hand man’ yet

Also what you consider high quality candidates vs what are actually high quality might also differ

‘High profile’ you’re talking about , different than ‘high quality ‘

Only people close to the action know for sure and we will find out with results either way eventually

If he’s our coaching director, do you think he was one of our top targets?

Rowey was even saying today that people he had spoken to said we were struggling to fill the role.

Yes it’s only Rowey but it ties in with his CV and our difficulty in attracting experienced credentialed footy people.

Burton and Kelly have been our last 2 footy ops managers, what does that tell you?

 

[whattagun07]

What about Dangerfield, Bruhn, Holmes, Cameron, Stengle, Stewart, Ollie Henry, Blicavs

Just don't see their list as salary cap bursting.
I hate Geelong as much as anyone, but it's turning into a standard complaint that I don't think has significant basis when you compare their list to other clubs.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

It’s what the journo tweeted

Did he say ‘coaching director ‘ ? if so ‘right hand man’ is maybe a funny description by him

More implies ‘senior assistant ‘ to me but who knows

I’ll await further announcement from club re actual role

 

[Scorpus]

How does the Journo know the role / title B4 the Crows have made an announcement

Do you believe McClures announcement on Clarry .....you can always trust McClure

Probably because Mark Ricciuto was on radio this morning saying we're announcing our coaching director this week

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

I think people are getting Chris Fagan's role wrong or minimizing his experience.

He was Head of Coaching and Development at Hawthorn. So at our club that would be a mixture of a new role, and Marco Bello's role (Head of Development)

Fagan was also the GM of Football Operations at Melbourne before moving to Hawthorn, so he had higher tier experience before moving into the Head of Coaching and Development role.

As far as I'm aware Murray Davis only has assistant coaching experience, so he is being promoted into a new role without an equivalent experience base

That’s a very basic representation of Fagan’s path to Melbourne and his roles there.

Why does someone need to be a senior AFL coach to be a coaching director? Leppitch was a terrible senior coach, why does that make him more qualified to be a coaching director at Collingwood?

Chris Fagan clearly rates him very highly and I’m sure works very closely with him, why is his endorsement for this role not enough for people who had no idea who he was before tonight? Trusting the opinion of the people that work with him isn’t happy clapping.

 

[baldandbroke]

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A Director of Coaching role is above a head coach, so you'd think the requirements for experience would be higher and you'd want some sort of high level experience

Is it above it? Or is it a different role than we are guessing it is?

I can’t imagine a role that overpowered the Head Coach’s decisions - how would that work?

I guess we wait and see how it pans out…

 

[George Kramer]

How does the Journo know the role / title B4 the Crows have made an announcement

Do you believe McClures announcement on Clarry .....you can always trust McClure

The same journo that said Cumming preferred Adelaide?

And I’ve said, if he’s wrong, fine I’m happy with the appointment as assistant.

As coaching director? Nah and let me guess you’re clapping the club again.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Probably because Mark Ricciuto was on radio this morning saying we're announcing our coaching director this week

So the journo guessed .....no mention of the other potential appt

 

[George Kramer]

That’s a very basic representation of Fagan’s path to Melbourne and his roles there.

Why does someone need to be a senior AFL coach to be a coaching director? Leppitch was a terrible senior coach, why does that make him more qualified to be a coaching director at Collingwood?

Chris Fagan clearly rates him very highly and I’m sure works very closely with him, why is his endorsement for this role not enough for people who had no idea who he was before tonight? Trusting the opinion of the people that work with him isn’t happy clapping.

Where do you think Davis ranked in terms of our targets and be honest, not an ambassador

 

[jenny61_99]

The same journo that said Cumming preferred Adelaide?

And I’ve said, if he’s wrong, fine I’m happy with the appointment as assistant.

As coaching director? Nah and let me guess you’re clapping the club again.

If they announce a Wright type as well?

 

[Amacca 23]

Clap clap

Yeah i get it anybody who doesnt agree with you is a hapoy clapper look here you fool you have no idea about him but are quick to judge him as a failure because YOU dont know him and would of said the exact same thing about fagan because he was an UNKNOWN person as well

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[George Kramer]

So the journo guessed .....no mention of the other potential appt

And if he’s not wrong?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

If he’s our coaching director, do you think he was one of our top targets?

Rowey was even saying today that people he had spoken to said we were struggling to fill the role.

Yes it’s only Rowey but it ties in with his CV and our difficulty in attracting experienced credentialed footy people.

Burton and Kelly have been our last 2 footy ops managers, what does that tell you?

We missed Rutten and Dew last year so I doubt he’s our top target

Also doubt Rahilly was when he came

Also doubt the guy we get at pick 4 in draft will be our top target as well

Burton was a disaster appointment and Kelly was a stop gap measure , like a holding pattern

Doesn’t mean every decision the club ever makes is going to be bad , just like it’s not always good

It is good to see some changes happening however , so far the off season is promising

 

[George Kramer]

Yeah i get it anybody who doesnt agree woth you is a hapoy clapper look here you fool you have no idea about him but are quick to judge him as a failure because YOU dont know him and would of said the exact same thing about fagan because he was an UNKNOWN person as well

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Full stops are your friend.

No that’s not it, but clappers who back every club appointment and show no ability to think for themselves, I call clappers, clapper.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Is it above it? Or is it a different role than we are imagining?

I can’t imagine a role that overpowered the Head Coach’s decisions - how would that work?

I guess we wait and see how it pans out…

I’d imagine it’s a role which oversees coaching operations, as well as giving advice to Nicks

The head coach would still be the most senior position amongst the coaching staff, I think

 

[Shifty Crow]

But he isn’t announced as anything other than nicks ‘right hand man’ yet

Also what you consider high quality candidates vs what are actually high quality might also differ

‘High profile’ you’re talking about , different than ‘high quality ‘

Only people close to the action know for sure and we will find out with results either way eventually

Nailed it - need to wait for clubs announcement to be clear on the role appointment.

I’m with you - I’m convinced there are people on this forum that prefer a high profile name from an unsuccessful program, then an unknown name from a successful premiership program.

Let’s not deal with perceptions based on a name, let’s appt based merit and performance.

People need to pause and wait for more info.




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[baaaallllll]

But he isn’t announced as anything other than nicks ‘right hand man’ yet

Nicks 'Right hand man' ... he is going to be very busy

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

Where do you think Davis ranked in terms of our targets and be honest, not an ambassador

I’ve got no idea, I just trust that he has a wealth of knowledge from a successful program and would’ve required endorsement from Chris Fagan, that’s enough for me to at least give him a shot.

 

[George Kramer]

We missed Rutten and Dew last year so I doubt he’s our top target

Also doubt Rahilly was when he came

Also doubt the guy we get at pick 4 in draft will be our top target as well

Burton was a disaster appointment and Kelly was a stop gap measure , like a holding pattern

Doesn’t mean every decision the club ever makes is going to be bad , just like it’s not always good

It is good to see some changes happening however , so far the off season is promising

Kelly stop gap? He’s been there a few years now.

My point is he clearly wouldn’t have been one of our top targets. He might turn out to be great. But I’m not going to buy posters applauding the appointment when they know he wasn’t a top choice.

 

[Shifty Crow]

100%. That’s clearly why Giants wanted an answer today. A no response today means 90% chance he is goneski

History suggests when it goes this deep with no answer, the player is usually leaving.

There is no announcements on GWS social media feed



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[Cromulant]

I think people are getting Chris Fagan's role wrong or minimizing his experience.

He was Head of Coaching and Development at Hawthorn. So at our club that would be a mixture of a new role, and Marco Bello's role (Head of Development)

Fagan was also the GM of Football Operations at Melbourne before moving to Hawthorn, so he had higher tier experience before moving into the Head of Coaching and Development role.

As far as I'm aware Murray Davis only has assistant coaching experience, so he is being promoted into a new role without an equivalent experience base

He was an assistant coach a Melbourne before he became.the GM in a period where they had a coach sacked

It's not diminishing his experience at all, it's more understanding the path he went on was not too dissimilar to that of Davis.

Neither played AFL, both had some time coaching their own senior sides

 

[Syd Crow]

So we have Davis- seems like a good addition.

Wright still a shot for the senior gig?

Do we still have Montgomery in the pipeline?

Would be a monumental change to the off-field group if those all came off!!

We have ANB, Cumming and still possibly Peatling as players … and the trade period hasn’t started yet!!

Bit better than last year

Only a bit better than last year? I felt as happy as getting a speeding ticket last year when all we got was Chris Burgess. This year is more like it should be.