List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

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Spoiler: Confirmed Trades - Update - 16th October

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Daniel Rioli	Richmond	Trade	Gold Coast	Gold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli 17 Daniel Rioli Age 27 Ht 179cm Wt 78kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 11.2 3star K 5.8 2star HB 5.4 4star M 2.7 3star T 3.2 5star MG 179.2 3star D 8.1 2star K 4.9 2star HB 3.3 2star M 2.0 2star T 2.6 4star MG 144.9 3star D 9.0 3star K 3.8 2star HB 5.2 4star M 0.8 1star T 3.8 5star MG 160.2 3star , R4 (51,61,70,76) Picks Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai Bolton	Richmond	Trade	Fremantle	Fremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton 29 Shai Bolton Age 25 Ht 176cm Wt 77kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 12.3 3star K 6.9 3star HB 5.4 4star M 2.8 3star T 2.9 4star CL 1.4 4star D 12.7 3star K 9.2 4star HB 3.5 2star M 3.0 3star T 2.7 4star CL 1.8 4star D 9.2 3star K 4.6 2star HB 4.6 4star M 2.0 3star T 2.6 4star CL 0.0 1star , R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick. Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 3star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 4star MG 369.3 5star D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 2star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 3star MG 369.3 5star D 13.6 4star K 11.2 4star HB 2.4 3star M 4.2 4star T 2.2 4star MG 358.0 5star Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5star K 12.1 4star HB 7.9 5star M 4.6 4star T 1.9 4star MG 367.4 5star D 9.0 2star K 5.0 2star HB 4.0 3star M 0.3 1star T 2.7 4star MG 147.7 3star D 14.2 4star K 8.8 4star HB 5.4 4star M 4.0 4star T 1.2 3star MG 217.8 4star John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4star K 9.2 4star HB 7.1 4star M 3.5 4star T 2.0 4star MG 186.1 3star D 14.2 3star K 7.7 3star HB 6.5 4star M 3.2 3star T 1.8 3star MG 149.7 3star D 18.8 5star K 11.0 4star HB 7.8 5star M 4.0 4star T 2.2 4star MG 229.8 4star	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 3star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 4star MG 369.3 5star D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 2star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 3star MG 369.3 5star D 13.6 4star K 11.2 4star HB 2.4 3star M 4.2 4star T 2.2 4star MG 358.0 5star , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5star K 12.1 4star HB 7.9 5star M 4.6 4star T 1.9 4star MG 367.4 5star D 9.0 2star K 5.0 2star HB 4.0 3star M 0.3 1star T 2.7 4star MG 147.7 3star D 14.2 4star K 8.8 4star HB 5.4 4star M 4.0 4star T 1.2 3star MG 217.8 4star Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5star K 11.8 4star HB 6.4 4star M 4.9 5star T 3.0 5star MG 289.2 4star D 17.6 4star K 11.6 4star HB 6.0 3star M 3.3 3star T 3.4 4star MG 319.9 5star D 16.6 4star K 12.4 5star HB 4.2 4star M 7.0 5star T 2.6 4star MG 279.8 5star , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble

9

John Noble

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

186.1

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

149.7

3star

D

18.8

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

229.8

4star

to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius

13

Jack Lukosius

Age

24

Ht

195cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

369.3

5star

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

369.3

5star

D

13.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

358.0

5star

, Richards, Rory Atkins

2

Rory Atkins

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

367.4

5star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.3

1star

T

2.7

4star

MG

147.7

3star

D

14.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

MG

217.8

4star

, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[Whippet1]

3 of our biggest holes are leadership, experience and delivery out of the backline. Number crunching aside these trades make us better yes?

 

[Topparoo]

We have McKercher, Powell who can play there and hit targets.

We need a young key forward. We don't need a 7th half back flanker at that price.

Not opposed to picking up Daniel but the price was way too steep. Especially when our opponents will play through him when they go forward

Agree we need key forwards asap. At least now we have someone coming off half back who can hit up a forward. McKercher isn't a defender he'll be free and far more damaging in the midfield with Sheezel and co. Powell as a half back? Who knows? Anyway he's one of ours now.

 

[hoffseason gains 01]

One thing about getting Daniel is finally having someone in our backline I won’t have to worry about the ball being in their hands

 

[Twangler]

And that’s the problem that losing Pick 25 means EVERYONE knows we will trade out pick 2 which has diluted its value massively because we NEED to split it now…

Let’s just hope there is a lot of competition for that pick. We also have a F1 and F2 to play with to get back into the draft.

 

[Themanbun]

More than that, we lacked a backline general capable of organising the troops in front of him.

You might have to go back a couple years, but Daniel has shown over a substantial body of work he can do that.

Daniel plays further up the ground than that. Has definitely not played the general role.

 

[THE_GUN]

Dont have to split pick 2.

Can swap with Richmond with our first rounder next year.

No way they take all of their picks this draft, they will want to spread it out.

Dont think Richmond would be keen on your F1
we would be looking to sell off #23 & #24 for F1's and take the rest probably 5-6 selections depending on how the cards fall

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Excuse the intrusion

I can understand the melts about not having picks but there are multiple options still available with pick 2

#2 for #6 + #18
on trade #6 to Gws #15 , #16 , #21

North end up with #15 , #16 , #18 , #21

Be honest would you trade a top 3 pick for 4 picks beyond 15?

 

[chickenonachain]

Most of our players would be five out of twenty nine

 

[Its a Process]

Disagree mate.

Our rebound game was among the worst in the comp.

Daniel isn't Houston, but he just cost less than a third of the draft point capital we were offering for DH.

People around here carry on about how Daniel's a defensive liability, but you know what, the Pies got into the prelims in Daicos' debut year, and I guarantee CD's defensive accountability for us will be greater that what ND showed that year.

Zorko isn’t the best 1 vs 1 defender either. If we get our pressure game up we can carry it.

 

[Waynesworld]

It is what it is, we say welcome to our new North players.

Sure we may have overpaid for Daniels, but on the flip side would anyone guarantee that we would have picked a player that would step into our senior side and potentially be top 5-10 in his first year with pick 25?

We’ve brought in 3 senior players and a previous pick 20 (a small forward who we have been chasing), essentially for picks 25 and 44.

 

[Hojuman]

Nobody is giving 6 & 10/11

1-7/8 is similar this draft

anyway good luck

Depends how desperately you want pick #2.
1 - 10/11 is similar this draft.
Anyway, good luck.

 

[ansonholt]

25 + 44 for Daniel, Parker and Konstanty.


Two premiership players and a former pick 20 small forward.

Can’t be unhappy with that.

Way too much whingeing on here. But I accept that. It's Bigfooty. Par for the course.

Clarko said we needed experience, so we bring in three premiership players. Can't argue with that.

Some wanted pick 48 back with CD when we gave up 25. Which bona fide champion player would we have drafted with pick 48??

Some wanted to give up our F2 rather than 25, without realising that F2 would have BEEN 25 in or thereabouts in 2025. Somehow in some people's minds F2 is pretty much a throwaway but 25 is valuable. Come on guys.

We needed experience, not more speculative young players. We have tons of those. We got experience. It was a good result. Be happy. We still have pick 2 as well.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Daniel hits targets.

Short, lateral nothing kicks.

We have six others on the list to do that already.

Good stuff Brady.

 

[Moti]

With Archer, Daniel and LMac, players like Hardeman and even Goater might be overlooked and I would hate that stump their development


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[The Nostradamus]

It is what it is, we say welcome to our new North players.

Sure we may have overpaid for Daniels, but on the flip side would anyone guarantee that we would have picked a player that would step into our senior side and potentially be top 5-10 in his first year with pick 25?

We’ve brought in 3 senior players and a previous pick 20 (a small forward who we have been chasing), essentially for picks 25 and 44.

yeah but how much better if it were a f3 and 44 given

and at 25 we pick a KPF like Gerryen

 

[Themanbun]

Look people are allowed to have negative opinions on trades this club makes. We heard the same stuff when people called the CCJ trade a poor one, and every time this club has made a blue. We will make more mistakes as time goes on, that's just the game, and it's okay to put your opinion out there when you think one has been made.

I pray this doesn't turn out to be one, but IMO at this point in time, it is.

 

[norfnuffie]

Surely we try get Darcy Jones next year to have a triple threat of helmets

 

[Danni_Benson]

I would have thought bringing in someone who can hit up a target out of defence is exactly what we need. No one has been happy with LMac long bombing to the opposition ad nauseum. If he can recapture the form he has shown with the dogs he could be the best recruit of the lot.

Just thinking of LMac’s kicking makes me feel sick in the stomach!

Demoralizing for the team each and every time he misses a target!!

Caleb is a welcome inclusion!!

 

[NMFC TID]

As was mentioned in the members Q and A we want to get back to playing the attacking brand that we tried at the start of the year. Through the corridor. Daniel is that guy to bite off the 45 degree kick to get it into the corridor from defence. He’s going to have a very big part in what we are going to do next year. We can’t have another year of LMac or Fisher trying to bite that kick off.

 

[Shermanator]

Gave you
Xerri signing for 4
Parker committing
Konsta early
And Ldu will sign but still can’t convince you all!

That’s me for 24 see you next year.

Love ya work GR2023!

 

[B4Bear]

Taken as a package of four players, Brady did well.

Whining about pick 25 being overs is ridiculous, outside of the first round it is speculation, nothing more.

There are some seriously sad ****s here.

 

[HBFlanker]

Konstanty for free levels out the overpay for Daniel

 

[Shagga is all Class]

3 of our biggest holes are leadership, experience and delivery out of the backline. Number crunching aside these trades make us better yes?

Of course.

For me, we would have won a few more games this year and may have even put Collingwood, Freo, or West Coast to the sword.

The players need some belief, and most of all, we need LDU to sign before these future trading/no salary cap/entitled parasites that want to compete every year for decades come knocking.

If we fix these problems, we might even attract a Free Agent, or a trade prospect of note.

Pick 25 is not overpaying.

Overpaying, is if our core leaves.

 

[Danni_Benson]

Stop it!!

 

[chubbspeterson]

Taken as a package of four players, Brady did well.

Whining about pick 25 being overs is ridiculous, outside of the first round it is speculation, nothing more.

There are some seriously sad ****s here.

It's more the list balance. That was a good chance to add Gerreyn/Faull/Sims as a key forward or Matt Whitlock as a key defender or small forward like Hannaford at pick 25.