List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Player moves

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (67) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[The Nostradamus]

D-day looms for Caleb Daniel

Western Bulldogs defender Caleb Daniel could decide as early as today whether he wants to pursue a four-year deal with the Kangaroos or see out his contract at the club where he has won a premiership and a best and fairest.

There is no deadline on his decision, but both clubs are expecting him to make a call soon. One of the aspects Daniel will be weighing up is whether a deal can get done as well as whether he believes he can regain a permanent spot with the Bulldogs having played VFL and as a sub in 2024.

The Bulldogs are already in negotiations with Geelong over Bailey Smith and will sit down with St Kilda to discuss a deal over Jack Macrae.

If it’s just the first thing he shouldn’t need to worry about it as he’s contracted

Worst case he asks for a deal but has to go back and play another year

Is in no worse a spot as everyone already knows he’s considering leaving

Also if he wants to increase the chance of a deal to get done it’s better to make it official asap to give more time to get it done

 

[Disco Dew]

Can people stop losing their shit over third round + trades.

No chance.
Houston coming to us is more likely

 

[Psicosis]

Are you Sphynx in disguise? That entire second paragraph is hyperbolic garbage

Haha !

 

[perplexed]

When old players retire, list spots have to be filled. You know that.

We havent been attractive to FAs lately.

Logue and Tucker got done for PP. A second and a fourth rounder, with a swap of thirds.Can't blame the club on Griff doing his ACL. That’s a great deal. How can you argue otherwise.

I don't. These were both good trades.

Howe, Shiels, Nyuon, Teakle, Pink and Darling all cost nothing, or extremely speculative picks. They filled spots cheaply so we could spend most of our draft capital on kids. Tell me what you would have done otherwise, bearing in mind the highest pick you’re allowed to use is in the sixties.

Look at these guys. They are mostly short-term infill to cover obvious list holes and list management failures. Fine you say, but where is the long-term strategy that they are covering for?
We started last season with five vfl quality talls but no long-term support for Nick Larkey.
Our only two small forwards have come via the msd. Even last year, when Nick Watson was sitting there waiting for us, we took a sixth mid-sized forward. Hawthorn wanted to trade up for Duursma with the pick we couldn't find for Logan Morris. Duursma could be a star, but he will have to become Nat Fyfe to improve our list as much as Watson and Morris would have.

Fisher and Stephens are the only ones who cost substantial picks. But they were acquired with PP that had to be used last year. Nevertheless, happy to debate the merits of those decisions.

In retrospect we didn't really have to trade those picks, but we shouldn't be blamed for that. Those two players though........they can both run.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

At least we can watch replays of our 4 flags in colour while we wait to improve.


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And there are 4x photos of our captain wearing our jumper accepting the premiership cup. Are there any photos in existence of someone in a StKilda jumper accepting the premiership cup?

 

[giantroo]

AFL trades LIVE: ‘Problem’ stopping Blues from landing star amid fears Roos being ‘used’

Trades LIVE: ‘Problem’ stopping Blues from landing star amid fears Roos being ‘used’

www.foxsports.com.au

Kangaroos list boss Brady Rawlings

Brady Rawlings

Age

43

Ht

184cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

8.7

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.3

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.8

3star

on Monday declared his club was “still in the hunt” for Houston

“We’ve met with Dan. It’ll come down to whoever has the best value for Port Adelaide. We think we’re still a chance,” he said.

Rawlings wouldn’t confirm reports the Kangaroos had offered the Power two first-round picks for Houston, saying: “I’m not sure there’s been an asking price. It’s whoever comes up with the best deal.”

Essendon legend Matthew Lloyd questioned whether North was being “used” to create a bidding war.

“I wouldn’t be throwing two first-rounders at Dan Houston

5

Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

, but I think that’s what it may take for clubs to get him,” Lloyd said on the 3AW trade podcast.

“That’s where I think North Melbourne will probably get blown out of a water … They can probably afford to do it, but I just think Dan Houston

5

Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

, is he just using them as well as a way to have another club involved?


“He’d want Carlton or Collingwood. He wants to win a premiership, Dan Houston

5

Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

.

“It all comes down to who can get the Gold Coast Suns’ pick 13 … Whoever can get that unlocks the deal to get Dan Houston

5

Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

.”

 

[ferball]

I've been a supporter of Fisher, I don't mind him, particularly when he uses his first option. Despite that, he is a terrible one on one defender and I think we overpaid for him.

Do you know what he actually cost?

 

[Johnny99]

Ok say Daniel decides to play with the NMFC for 4 years .
So you look at the back 6 for Round 1 in 2025.
Backline
Corr Louge Archer
Half Backline
Daniel Comben ?
Which mean there’s 1 position available in the Backline available
McDonald
Fisher
Goater
Hardenham
Bergman
With that you don’t have to be Einstein to workout McDonald will get the gig as he will voted in as Captain again and Clarkson will frightened to drop the Captain.
Fisher will be a bench player then once on the field will play as a Half Forward
As for other 3 players who won’t be given the opportunity to play AFL I feel sorry for them.
Goater might be a player that will start in the VFL and stay there
Hardenham A nice guy if not given a go will want to go back to WA
Bergman similar to Goater

Great work Mr. NN.

So no injuries in 2025. Great to hear.

 

[perplexed]

Do you know what he actually cost?

Yeah, we payed stuff-all for Fisher, but the contract we offered was too long for a speculative fringe type.

 

[Mr north man]

AFL trades LIVE: ‘Problem’ stopping Blues from landing star amid fears Roos being ‘used’

Trades LIVE: ‘Problem’ stopping Blues from landing star amid fears Roos being ‘used’

www.foxsports.com.au

Kangaroos list boss Brady Rawlings on Monday declared his club was “still in the hunt” for Houston

“We’ve met with Dan. It’ll come down to whoever has the best value for Port Adelaide. We think we’re still a chance,” he said.

Rawlings wouldn’t confirm reports the Kangaroos had offered the Power two first-round picks for Houston, saying: “I’m not sure there’s been an asking price. It’s whoever comes up with the best deal.”

Essendon legend Matthew Lloyd questioned whether North was being “used” to create a bidding war.

“I wouldn’t be throwing two first-rounders at Dan Houston, but I think that’s what it may take for clubs to get him,” Lloyd said on the 3AW trade podcast.

“That’s where I think North Melbourne will probably get blown out of a water … They can probably afford to do it, but I just think Dan Houston, is he just using them as well as a way to have another club involved?


“He’d want Carlton or Collingwood. He wants to win a premiership, Dan Houston.

“It all comes down to who can get the Gold Coast Suns’ pick 13 … Whoever can get that unlocks the deal to get Dan Houston.”

Of course we are being played unfortunately we haven’t got the Administrators to figure it out
Player Managers look at as our as modern day circus.

 

[The Anvil]

AFL trades LIVE: ‘Problem’ stopping Blues from landing star amid fears Roos being ‘used’

Trades LIVE: ‘Problem’ stopping Blues from landing star amid fears Roos being ‘used’

www.foxsports.com.au

Kangaroos list boss Brady Rawlings on Monday declared his club was “still in the hunt” for Houston

“We’ve met with Dan. It’ll come down to whoever has the best value for Port Adelaide. We think we’re still a chance,” he said.

Rawlings wouldn’t confirm reports the Kangaroos had offered the Power two first-round picks for Houston, saying: “I’m not sure there’s been an asking price. It’s whoever comes up with the best deal.”

Essendon legend Matthew Lloyd questioned whether North was being “used” to create a bidding war.

“I wouldn’t be throwing two first-rounders at Dan Houston, but I think that’s what it may take for clubs to get him,” Lloyd said on the 3AW trade podcast.

“That’s where I think North Melbourne will probably get blown out of a water … They can probably afford to do it, but I just think Dan Houston, is he just using them as well as a way to have another club involved?


“He’d want Carlton or Collingwood. He wants to win a premiership, Dan Houston.

“It all comes down to who can get the Gold Coast Suns’ pick 13 … Whoever can get that unlocks the deal to get Dan Houston.”

Personally I like it when we are the ones driving up the price, or the urgency (when it comes to Buckley's coaching career).

Lloyd says this like he is bitter that the price is getting higher and he wants the Roos to pull out of the race.

It literally doesn't come down to who gets pick 13, he is saying that because he doesn't have any other trade ideas.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Do you know what he actually cost?

Well aware. My comment was not just about what we gave up at the draft but contract length and $. From my what I've been told he is on over 600k which is ridiculous for a bottom 8 player in our side.

 

[Johnny99]

Of course we are being played unfortunately we haven’t got the Administrators to figure it out
Player Managers look at as our as modern day circus.

Question. If we do not approach D. Houston, because we do not want to risk "getting played".

How are we supposed to have a chance to recruit him to our club?

Mental telepathy?

 

[andana]

Of course we are being played unfortunately we haven’t got the Administrators to figure it out
Player Managers look at as our as modern day circus.

Maybe we are playing a double bluff like when we got.... er...

 

[giantroo]

 

[New_Roo]

I've been a supporter of Fisher, I don't mind him, particularly when he uses his first option. Despite that, he is a terrible one on one defender and I think we overpaid for him.

Daniel doesn't have any other suitors other than us and there is a multitude of reasons why that's the case. He lacks meters gained and he can't defend. Isn't damaging enough to be a winger, isn't quick enough to be a small forward.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind him as a player, he is a reliable kick, he can find the footy and by all accounts is a fantastic person.

I just don't see the point of bringing him in (especially if it costs us a pick inside the top 40) when our biggest issue in the defensive half is actual defending.

And if there were any other suitors we wouldn't be in with a chance.... unfortunately these are the type of players we need to approach until we get better.... we aren't going to win a fight with other clubs


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[TennisPlayerAndy]

Well aware. My comment was not just about what we gave up at the draft but contract length and $. From my what I've been told he is on over 600k which is ridiculous for a bottom 8 player in our side.

McDonald, Fisher, Stephens eating cap space for yeeeaars to come.

C grade footballers getting B grade contracts.

Absolutely ****s you.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Graham better be no more than band 4 (end of second rounder)

 

[Snowy off the Tram]

Do you know what he actually cost?

Very little, hopefully …

 

[Tiberius]

McDonald, Fisher, Stephens eating cap space for yeeeaars to come.

C grade footballers getting B grade contracts.

Absolutely ****s you.

Is cap space really our problem though? I expect we have plenty. What absolutely ****s us is offering way more money and higher draft picks to clubs for good players and them choosing to go elsewhere for less.

 

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[Colby Cheer Squad]

McDonald, Fisher, Stephens eating cap space for yeeeaars to come.

C grade footballers getting B grade contracts.

Absolutely ****s you.

We are nowhere near the cap ceiling so what difference does it make? We need to overpay some players just to get to the cap floor.

 

[buttox]

If that's band 1 I may lose my mind

 

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