List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II

[Passmore]

Yes that would be fine or a top player. Only top player I can think of that’s available that’s close is Houston . But is he a top 4 ? Probably if we want to get him to us I suppose. A haul of Houston , Parker, Macrae and even Darling would certainly boost our experience. A player nearly on every line

I'm thinking a draft pick possibly.

Say Adelaide, as an example plucked from my freckle, offered pick 4 gambling on us running last to get Sharpe....and we took Armstrong at 4 to go along with Draper at 2....

That's what I'm thinking re similar value.

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[Passmore]

Draper, Armstrong and Berry would be perfect.

That would be lovely. Throw in another KPD with a later pick...and tickety boo.

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[Ashley B]

Our drafting motto we don’t like tall people

 

[Psicosis]

Mixed feelings re Macrae.

Con: I know for a fact through someone that played with him that he is one of the laziest blokes you’ll see when it comes to training standards. Will bring very little Mon-Fri.

Pro: He’s better than Darcy Tucker

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Darcy Tucker

Age

27

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

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15.9

4star

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8.3

3star

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7.6

5star

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3.3

3star

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3.3

5star

MG

239.7

4star

D

14.0

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.3

4star

MG

240.5

4star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

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6.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.8

5star

MG

234.8

4star

and Dylan Stephens

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Dylan Stephens

Age

23

Ht

184cm

Wt

80kg

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Mid

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10.3

3star

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7.0

3star

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3.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

4star

CL

0.0

1star

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

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3.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

4star

CL

0.0

1star

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Now if only we could be sure that Clarkson would prioritise his minutes over the likes of Stephens, Fisher, Tucker and not Powell, Colby, Duurs, I’d be quite comfortable. Ah well…

 

[perplexed]

To be fair, that doesn't sound particularly insurmountable, especially if we're actually replacing them with a-graders.

I doubt our list managers have it in them, they couldn't even let go an uncontracted Will Phillips.

It is years since we had an even vaguely balanced list, and I'm not seeing anything that suggests a long-term strategy to achieve one.

 

[R00StaR]

I'm thinking a draft pick possibly.

Say Adelaide, as an example plucked from my freckle, offered pick 4 gambling on us running last to get Sharpe....and we took Armstrong at 4 to go along with Draper at 2....

That's what I'm thinking re similar value.

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They dont need us to finish last. If he doesn't have a great year they might get him with our pick straight out. If he's the next Reid or JHF they'd have the two first rounders to get it done. One likely a pick 4ish from us and theirs around 10ish.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

If it was 2025 R1 for #4 this year because Adelaide has given up hope of getting Draper past us AND West Coast, I could very much live with it.

#2: Draper
#4: Armstrong
#22: Throw a dart

We'd be dancing with that draft. Three seasons in a row with two genuine top end talents.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

That would be lovely. Throw in another KPD with a later pick...and tickety boo.

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If Berry is gone Matt Whitlock at the second rounder with River Stevens as a rookie small forward and it's another tidy draft.

 

[The Warlord]

Someone will bet that they're getting a top 3 pick cheap (and the trend suggests they'd be right) and go for it.

Likely makeweight in a big multi club trade - Brady tends to do well in those too.

I like it, says we're sick of developing and want to start winning lots of games soon.

 

[Psicosis]

We must be confident of climbing the ladder next yr. I am not sure I really like trading away potentially a future top 4 pick.

Would there be anything more North then trading a F1 that ends up being pick 1?

 

[Ball Dont Lie]

Our drafting motto we don’t like tall people View attachment 2109223

Unfortunately we don’t like small (fast) ones either

 

[Devil Fish]

Someone will bet that they're getting a top 3 pick cheap (and the trend suggests they'd be right) and go for it.

Likely makeweight in a big multi club trade - Brady tends to do well in those too.

I like it, says we're sick of developing and want to start winning lots of games soon.

Yeah, Brady is a freak when it comes to those multi club trades.
The clubs list could not be in better hands.

We add Darling & Parker to our list which is already choc-a-block full of talent….we could be scary good. And I’m not talking 2030. I’m talking 2026, and maybe even 2025 with a bit of luck with injury.

I’ll give you a tip - don’t go booking overseas trips in September for the next decade.

 

[Passmore]

Our drafting motto we don’t like tall people View attachment 2109223

Will Dawson and Taylor Goad are asking what you consider tall?

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[Passmore]

Unfortunately we don’t like small (fast) ones either

Colby McKercher's quite nimble.

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[trooroo4life]

Would there be anything more North then trading a F1 that ends up being pick 1?

If we are worse then Richmond next year then there will be more to worry about then that scenario.

 

[Passmore]

They dont need us to finish last. If he doesn't have a great year they might get him with our pick straight out. If he's the next Reid or JHF they'd have the two first rounders to get it done. One likely a pick 4ish from us and theirs around 10ish.

Well, whatever. No doubt if they thought we were a big chance to run last it would help.

Regardless, no reason why we wouldn't do it. The more sensitive will point to "wah, what if run last..."..but we're still getting a top 4 pick in return...

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[big_e]

Yep, lazy, un-interested player that appears to be more interested in sitting on the list and getting the social media likes, and the social status that comes with being an AFL player.

Not many lazy and uninterested players start pre-season training in September, old bean.

 

[Flawed Genius]

Carlton delist Marchbank, Martin, Cuningham, Akuei and Mirkov

 

[The Nostradamus]

Carlton delist Marchbank, Martin, Cuningham, Akuei and Mirkov

Marchbank can play but always injured wouldnt mind giving him a train on spot over the summer to go for the lti spot when brayden george goes on the LTI

Jack Martin could be a free backup option as a small forward likewise cuningham

 

[giantroo]

 

[R00StaR]

If we are worse then Richmond next year then there will be more to worry about then that scenario.

We should expect to finisher higher than WC as well.

 

[HoldingThe Ball]

As an outsider, looking in, I totally understand why you might target great pro's with a few years left in them, plus a couple of fringe players who will improve.

Jack Darling - trains to perfection, sets standards. He's kicked 500 goals.One of only 64 to ever do that in AFL/VFL history. he will organise the forward line - and protect blokes like RHJ and Duursma whilst they develop. Against GCS he had 22 disposals, 9 marks, 7 tackles and kicked 1.1 - he still can play, but a change of scenery might be all that's needed.

Matt Owies - kicked 33 goals this year as a small forward.

Luke Parker & Jack MacRae - these guys still have at least 2 very good years left. They will both get 30 a week and tackle as hard at the end of the last quarter as they did at the opening bounce. The physical protection they offer to McKercher, Sheezel etc is essential.

Caleb Daniel - The angst here I don't get. A 28 yr old Premiership Player, with an AA Jacket, Best and Fairest / Charlie Sutton Medal winner boasting 175 games of experience would absolutely be an upgrade on Zac Fisher

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Zac Fisher

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26

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

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16.2

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8.3

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7.9

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M

1.8

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T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

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If you can land most or all of these then you will win a lot of games next year.

Hawthorn will be getting Barrass and Battle next season, meaning a couple of our players will probably be looking for more 1st team footy next year.

Finn Maginness, Jai Serong, and Harry Morrison

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Harry Morrison

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

79kg

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Mid

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14.1

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8.5

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5.6

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4.3

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T

2.9

4star

CL

0.9

3star

D

13.4

3star

K

9.8

4star

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3.6

2star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

3star

CL

0.8

3star

D

18.4

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

7.0

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.2

4star

CL

2.0

4star

have been exceptional at VFL level and very strong performers when called upon. All are playing in the semi-final tonight, which speaks volumes about their ability.

We will hate to lose any of them (and a couple of other players not selected for finals may be gettable too) but other guys are in front of them. They'd all do a great job for you - and probably half the sides in the competition.

Cheers

 

[Ligma]

Honestly wouldn’t mind snatching him up

 

[The Warlord]

Yeah, Brady is a freak when it comes to those multi club trades.

Agreed, he did very well when JHF walked out to construct that big trade - even getting AFL sign off - so we got Sheez AND George and then Goad.

The clubs list could not be in better hands.

Yep, Brady is a tried and true Shinboner with plenty of experience in the field and is widely respected.

We add Darling & Parker to our list which is already choc-a-block full of talent….we could be scary good. And I’m not talking 2030. I’m talking 2026, and maybe even 2025 with a bit of luck with injury.

Boooooring.

I’ll give you a tip - don’t go booking overseas trips in September for the next decade.

I genuinely believe people like you shouldn't be allowed to attend finals next time we make them, which will be sooner than you miserable soggy biscuiteers think.

 

[The Warlord]

Honestly wouldn’t mind snatching him up

NEIN