List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II

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Deven Robertson

2

Deven Robertson

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.0

1star

anyone? We need a defensive-minded mid & he'd come cheap. Could be Ben Keays

2

Ben Keays

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.1

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.9

5star

G

0.4

3star

D

13.7

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

5.0

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.7

4star

G

0.3

3star

D

13.0

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.4

2star

T

4.4

5star

G

0.4

3star

Mk.2?

 

[toepoker]

I hate kangalotto and am all for personal expression, but headbands (especially en-mass) are for the tip.

Current Geelong side up there with mid-90s Richmond who had a spate of undercut bowl head things as "worst haircut side in AFL history'

 

[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

What's the obsession with SDK? Got monstered in the ruck by his brother and didn't get a game with Geelong in the finals in his fourth year on a list?

 

[Waynesworld]

Probably not far off, although he’s a lot better than Drew. His onfield leadership would also be on part with Butters. So in a team that finished second (let’s apply some escapism here and forget we have Hinkley as a coach and we suck in finals) you would be getting one of our top 5 players and one of our best leaders. Houston doesn’t get injured (touch wood) and would likely be a-class for another 5 years.
Surely in the next 5 years with the young group you have coming through you would be expecting to have a go at top 4.
I’ll disclose my bias, but wouldn’t a single pick in this draft at pick 2 be a risk worth taking? In a draft where there is a pretty even spread of talent over the first 8-10 picks?
I can’t see us accepting a pick next year, so it’s probably a ball in your court deal, if you offer pick 2 you can have him, if not he stays. For the record I’d be happy with either.

Lol Pick 2.

Ball ain't being left in our court, we'll offer what we think he's worth (which is not pick 2), if you don't like it, we walk away.

After all it's Houston wanting out of your shit boring state not us chasing him

 

[King Corey]

What about if he comes with Melbournes pick#5 ?

Then to quote the other Oliver..

 

[King Corey]

What's the obsession with SDK? Got monstered in the ruck by his brother and didn't get a game with Geelong in the finals in his fourth year on a list?

Family DK confronting Family DK.

 

[Jello_B]

How about you watch pick 69 sound and go **** yourself

Huh? I wasn’t being rude.

 

[TurnoverMerchant]

What's the obsession with SDK? Got monstered in the ruck by his brother and didn't get a game with Geelong in the finals in his fourth year on a list?

Apparently he’s suffered from injury issues this year resulting in him not being fit enough to play in their side for finals. Not sure it’s a question on his quality.

 

[Jello_B]

Lol Pick 2.

Ball ain't being left in our court, we'll offer what we think he's worth (which is not pick 2), if you don't like it, we walk away.

After all it's Houston wanting out of your shit boring state not us chasing him

That was my point I guess. It’s up to you to make an offer, if not everyone walks away which I’m happy with.

 

[rickety]

Clearly made of stern stuff.

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Wasn't picked for the final ... whichever final the cats just played in .... might be he thinks that he will always be the one to make way ... as well as everyone playing says that they wanna play in finals, and getting dropped for a final ... understandable imo. Idk, I'm far from privvy, just throwing out thoughts ..

 

[rickety]

Sdk is not going anywhere. TDK is getrable by geelong

TDK does amazing things .......... to my system

 

[pupstar]

Yeah, unfortunately I’m not in the AFL or recruitment industry as much as I’d love to be. I’m like most of us here, I read the match reports, the draft forums, the phantom drafts, the power rankings and every article I can find on the draftees over a plethora of different media outlets and using all those as a reference point I have found he isn’t in many of any top 10s. Just today I read rookie me central had him ranked at #12 - if I am expected to do more then that please let me know.

Say we had pick 8 and he was expected 10-12 - I’d be happy to reach but not with pick 2, best available thanks.

Well that is a very good summary credit to you and no there is not much more you can could do. I myself would have no issue picking him with our pick 2 but that certainly doesn't make me right Looking forward to see how it all pans out.

 

[berniemccarthy]

Huh? I wasn’t being rude.

No you weren't. The response was unjustified. Some of us are a bit battle-scarred and lash out at the wrong targets occasionally. Play on.

 

[Waynesworld]

TDK does amazing things .......... to my system

They didn't really, was just good marketing hype!!

 

[Makeshift Park]

Probably not far off, although he’s a lot better than Drew. His onfield leadership would also be on part with Butters. So in a team that finished second (let’s apply some escapism here and forget we have Hinkley as a coach and we suck in finals) you would be getting one of our top 5 players and one of our best leaders. Houston doesn’t get injured (touch wood) and would likely be a-class for another 5 years.
Surely in the next 5 years with the young group you have coming through you would be expecting to have a go at top 4.
I’ll disclose my bias, but wouldn’t a single pick in this draft at pick 2 be a risk worth taking? In a draft where there is a pretty even spread of talent over the first 8-10 picks?
I can’t see us accepting a pick next year, so it’s probably a ball in your court deal, if you offer pick 2 you can have him, if not he stays. For the record I’d be happy with either.

Nice Dead Kennedys handle you got there.

North's list management crew did a Q&A last night where they made it clear that:
1) they were intending to hit the "pointy end" of this year's draft, and
2) they were prepared to use our F1 on "the right experienced player"

When you add the media reports about how our F1 is on the table for Houston to what was said in that Q&A, I think its fair to say the club is prepared to put F1 on the table to make a Houston deal happen.

Now if that's not good enough for Port, then the next question is probably how viable is it for us to split F1 with a third party to get you guys picks in this years draft.

 

[Jello_B]

Nice Dead Kennedys handle you got there.

North's list management crew did a Q&A last night where they made it clear that:
1) they were intending to hit the "pointy end" of this year's draft, and
2) they were prepared to use our F1 on "the right experienced player"

When you add the media reports about how our F1 is on the table for Houston to what was said in that Q&A, I think its fair to say the club is prepared to put F1 on the table to make a Houston deal happen.

Now if that's not good enough for Port, then the next question is probably how viable is it for us to split F1 with a third party to get you guys picks in this years draft.

I’d probably take the F1.

 

[Skarrz]

the nutters are out in force today
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If he was going to leave cause the bulldogs haven’t won another flag with a list that could, why would he go to these spuds who are going to break world records for a professional sporting organisation not winning a finals match?

 

[rickety]

They didn't really, was just good marketing hype!!

I reckon I've got half a box unused TDK cassettes and a handful of the video tapes as well. Might've fallen off the back of a truck in North West London ....

 

[giantroo]

 

[archereleven]

He'll be 32 throughout the season next year.

Sphynx loves adding a year to all suggested additions unless he's suggesting them.

Then he takes a year off them lol

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[buttox]

 

[Farthers]

Bring me Parker news already!

 

[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

Apparently he’s suffered from injury issues this year resulting in him not being fit enough to play in their side for finals. Not sure it’s a question on his quality.

Fair enough. Can't say I've watched him especially closely but his 1v1 and intercept marking numbers have been awful the last two seasons. Were ok in 2022 when he finished ninth in their B&F.

 

[Psicosis]

Someone needs to remind them that all the people expecting to nominate North are outside of their own best 22s! Quit the gaslighting

Sell me that s*** when Finn Callaghan nominates North

 

[Roos1991]

Is he going to use his mind control leadership skills to win the ball?

LDU is already one of the best contested ball winners in the competition, is turning 26 next season, he doesn't need Parker there to babysit him.

Sheezel is statistically one of the best young players in history, I think he knows how to play the game.

Yes George can learn some things from Luke, when he's in there a couple of times a game and the hundreds of hours he spends with him outside of matchday.

Parkers not going to be in the side when we are contending and parking players on the bench or McKercher on a bank flank is not going to help this side, in fact it it be to it's detriment.

Craig Bellamy said it best a few weeks ago when I heard him talk about Dustin Martin "Leadership is very simple, it's being a good player and a better player than your team mates. Cam Smith was a great leader because he was a great trainer with high standards, he barely spoke when he was on the field. His leadership was 99% Monday to Thursday." It was an answer regarding his opinion on recruiting the equivalent of Dustin Martin in the NRL.

Parker can play the Shiels role imo.

Strong points but I disagree. Just watch the mic'd up clips for Parker and Simpkin and you'll see the stark contrast. Parker is directing traffic, constantly vocal and respected. A season of Parker in the guts will hopefully help LDU/Simpkin find their voice and actually direct the crew effectively. It will also help Sheezel but probably more important for the former two who would have never seen anything like it in their careers. Everyone talks about how LDU doesn't have leadership ambitions - he's never been given the chance to understand what that looks like from someone who can do it.