List Mgmt. 2024 Trade Thread - No.2

[Joffaboy]

My point is the club were happy to see him go for pick 8

I can assure you they were not happy to see him go, but were happy with pick 8 as it is overs in a trading market.
Battle has been flaky on the since before his last contract. Was always going.

I have said plenty of times, would have preferred him stay. Eight years of development and has just come really good, but the compo was good and the melts from oppo fans, and clowns like Purple just made it a bit more enjoyable.

 

[sufficientintent]

It's not that l don't rate him, it's that those l rate don't rate him either.
Have a good look at the people who do rate him and that will tell you all you need to know.

Fair enough Scrap - can you give me a couple of names of who has done write ups on him that don't rate him?

Not being facetious at all - I'd love to read the other side of it to better my understanding.

 

[Sully111]

Please pick 7 for Carlton’s 12 and 14

F*ck no

 

[gringo2011]

Could say that about Sydney as well if you look at their Grand Final performance.

What were are short of are elite players. We have loads of potential and it is why it is important we nail two elite mids with 7+8. We need them to be Butters and Rozee types together and both to make it.
However as shown with a bottom four midfield, we are competitive against most top eight team with our list healthy and nowhere near 8 players off. that is North and WCE territory.

Realistically we'd probably be lucky to get a single star out of the one draft even with the picks available. You might be disappointed if that's a pass mark. You just need to get a one A grade to elite player and some good best 22 players every draft to stay on course at list building. If you nail a few you are over achieving. Hopefully we do that.

Battle compo raises the stakes a bit but it's gamble and on averages probably unlikely to be an upgrade unless we over achieve.

Our midfield is ordinary but was exposed by a huge amount of injury. Steele, Dow, Jones, Clark, Phillipou, Windhager isn't a dream team but it should be competitive enough if you have them all available. Adding Macrae gives it a bit more balls and a bit of young potential from the draft and it's looking a lot better.

 

[Joffaboy]

Realistically we'd probably be lucky to get a single star out of the one draft even with the picks available. You might be disappointed if that's a pass mark. You just need to get a one A grade to elite player and some good best 22 players every draft to stay on course at list building. If you nail a few you are over achieving. Hopefully we do that.

Battle compo raises the stakes a bit but it's gamble and on averages probably unlikely to be an upgrade unless we over achieve.

Our midfield is ordinary but was exposed by a huge amount of injury. Steele, Dow, Jones, Clark, Phillipou, Windhager isn't a dream team but it should be competitive enough if you have them all available. Adding Macrae gives it a bit more balls and a bit of young potential from the draft and it's looking a lot better.

With 7 and 8 you would want two that were as least as good as Wilson as the worst and Pou as the best. We should be able to nail two extremely good mids that will add to the overall strength of the midfield.

As you say the above current mids IF FIT are quite competitive, add Macrae and we are looking even a bit better. With two developing mids plus Pou, plus Wilson, plus Windy developing we are in a fairly robust state.

And as I said in my initial post, we are not 7 to 8 players off top four.

 

[ScrappyDo]

He is on the vinegar strokes looking at footage of Lindsay.

Give him a moment to finish.

I love a bit of salty with my vinegar too.

 

[akaifu]

I heard somewhere that they want Xavier Lindsay.

I reckon Lindsay will be gone before their picks. Travaglia played for their VFL team earlier in the year. Feel like Hotton suits their needs in terms of a game-winning forward-half player. Trainor as a 3rd tall for when McGovern retires might be an option too

 

[HeavenlySources]

 

[gubby88]

My point is the club were happy to see him go for pick 8

bloody oath they were. run of the mil 3rd tall, we got a great deal for him

 

[sufficientintent]

bloody oath they were. run of the mil 3rd tall, we got a great deal for him

Run of the mill is pretty harsh for a guy who came 3rd in our B&F

 

[akaifu]

Donohoe again. Makes me think he's referring to St Kilda

 

[bird_man]

Donohoe again. Makes me think he's referring to St Kilda

I think Twomey said we were one if a couple of clubs looking at him but we were less likely.

I can't remember the other club.

 

[sufficientintent]

Donohoe again. Makes me think he's referring to St Kilda

Already reported that Konstanty met with Essendon and St Kilda this week

 

[Rogue Warrior]

Donohoe again. Makes me think he's referring to St Kilda

From the limited I’ve read he’s a pressure small forward. Has he got any runs on the board as a goal kicker?
Forward pressure is very important but the equally important element is ability to be goal kicker and constant threat

 

[Pou Steele]

Would you do 8 for Barrass?

I would do Barrass. Full stop.

 

[St Neil]

So with the trade of pick 14, I would absolutely be going hell for leather for pick 9 even if it costs overs.

Having 7+8+9 with WCE and Richmond scrambling could be the biggest opportunity we have had at the draft since Rooey and Kosi was drafted.

Absolutely.


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[stavro#4]

I love a bit of salty with my vinegar too.

That implies I care who we draft in October….

I don’t. I just spitballed some names and you had a fit

 

[bird_man]

From the limited I’ve read he’s a pressure small forward. Has he got any runs on the board as a goal kicker?
Forward pressure is very important but the equally important element is ability to be goal kicker and constant threat

A goal a game average in the VFL so not a huge goal kicker.

 

[akaifu]

Very happy Peatling didn't pick us

 

[St Neil]

Why has he been a bust?

Sydney botched that lad’s development.


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[akaifu]

From the limited I’ve read he’s a pressure small forward. Has he got any runs on the board as a goal kicker?
Forward pressure is very important but the equally important element is ability to be goal kicker and constant threat

He's basically Collard, maybe not as mercurial

X-factor, goalkicker and athletic. Also good overhead. Just allegedly not a hard worker and not committed enough

Hopefully returning home and playing alongside Nas, Windy, Owens in that similar age bracket and seeing the meaning of hard work can help him get back on track

ALSO, he is a former teammate of Xavier Lindsay's

 

[Joffaboy]

From the limited I’ve read he’s a pressure small forward. Has he got any runs on the board as a goal kicker?
Forward pressure is very important but the equally important element is ability to be goal kicker and constant threat

Manlet, unproven, started as a defender and thrown forward for some type of value for the wasted pick.

Anyway why do we need a reject small forward when we are drafting Kako @ pick 8?

 

[True Believer]

My point is the club were happy to see him go for pick 8

Let me re-phrase that for you:

The club were not happy to lose him but were satisfied that at least the free agency pick we received as compensation was adequate.

 

[StCicatriz]

i really don't understand why hawthorn traded that pick... does anyone get the logic?

 

[sufficientintent]

Manlet, unproven, started as a defender and thrown forward for some type of value for the wasted pick.

Anyway why do we need a reject small forward when we are drafting Kako @ pick 8?

He won't get a game either. I wouldn't play him over Higgins, Butler or Collard, and even though they'll play midfield minutes this year I'd still prefer Garcia Pou and Henry playing the small forward/HF roles when they rotate