List Mgmt. 2024 Trade Thread - No.2

[SainterinSydney]

So when are we getting pick 9 and Heeney?

 

[TheNewEnsign]

i really don't understand why hawthorn traded that pick... does anyone get the logic?

I can't fathom it either. They still need to build so getting out of this years' draft and into the next seems weird.

Briefly thought about whether it might also include a handshake agreement about getting a delisted player but the only one that comes to mind is Owies; and Hawks have that covered with Ginnivan / Watson. Very strange.

 

[Hayes4PM]

i really don't understand why hawthorn traded that pick... does anyone get the logic?

It was a good deal. Pick 14 this year for what will likely be a similar pick next year and a 2nd rounder. Also they just got Battle in, if the Barrass deal falls through it's hardly the end of the world. They kind of grabbed the Eagles by the grapes here.

 

[sufficientintent]

i really don't understand why hawthorn traded that pick... does anyone get the logic?

Future first is more desirable for WC to get involved in Warner discussions next year, so opens up the Barrass deal. Also a bit of a "stop wasting time" wake up call for WC given the Hawthorn offer that was on the table for a bit

Secondary benefit although not related to Hawthorn's decision to trade 14, it allows WC to get away from the Richmond demand for pick 14 for Baker which is a great result for them

I suspect this means though that Baker now stays at Richmond for one more year

 

[gubby88]

Run of the mill is pretty harsh for a guy who came 3rd in our B&F

seb ross is a run of the mill player....he won 2x bnfs

 

[St Neil]

i really don't understand why hawthorn traded that pick... does anyone get the logic?

It is a bolt from the blue. Can’t understand it myself.

There must be more to it. Not sure where it leaves their trade with West Coast.


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[CursingFijian]

About a week before the draft I think.

We should get a feel for which Sandy player we are picking up by then, you would think.

 

[TheJackal]

Hawthorn trading that pick and that journos brag saying you snooze you lose reminds me so much of our pursuit and eventual overpayment of Brad Hill.

 

[sufficientintent]

seb ross is a run of the mill player....he won 2x bnfs

In the last few years, sure, but put some respect on 2017-2019 Seb Ross, man was our second best player behind Jack Steven

 

[TheJackal]

I would do Barrass. Full stop.

Do you know if you are his type? Good luck in your pursuit

 

[The Punter]

In the last few years, sure, but put some respect on 2017-2019 Seb Ross, man was our second best player behind Jack Steven

Over that period, Steven was the second best player behind Ross.

 

[stavro#4]

No harm in asking, surely?

We obviously rate him higher than the 14 the Hawks were offering and you've just lost a defender.

Most likely he stays in Perth, anyway.

Would you trade Harley Reid for pick 27?

 

[SainterinSydney]

5 min before trade deadline ends

SOS: Well, David, I think we did pretty well landing Pick 9 in addition to pick 7 and 8.
Mission: I agree, SOS. Damn good trade period for the Saints.
SOS:....wait...weren't we meant to talk to Dogs about Macrae and Port about Soldo.
Mission:....

 

[ScrappyDo]

That implies I care who we draft in October….

I don’t. I just spitballed some names and you had a fit

A fit you say?

 

[Saints4ever]

I’m guessing the hawks/Blues deal was beneficial for both.
The blues will use 14 to go after Houston I assume and the hawks will on trade the blues future first to the Eagles for Barrass that’s how I read it with maybe something extra.
So in effect they kind of using that 14 for Barass just going via Carlton and gaining a future 2nd on top.

 

[swingdog]

Would you trade Harley Reid for pick 27?

Sure.....

 

[HeavenlySources]

Manlet, unproven, started as a defender and thrown forward for some type of value for the wasted pick.

Anyway why do we need a reject small forward when we are drafting Kako @ pick 8?

Simon Dalrymple disagrees

 

[Joffaboy]

Hawthorn trading that pick and that journos brag saying you snooze you lose reminds me so much of our pursuit and eventual overpayment of Brad Hill.

Still don't understand how people are saying we overpaid for Brad Hill. He has been excellent for the past three years and we get another three from him. Has been fantastic for the indigenous kids as well.

We needed to get 5 in in that draft, 4 of whom are still regular seniors players, all of whom were recontracted.
I know it an easy line but history has shown that Paddy (not retired) Doogs, Butler, Jones and Hill would have been way more valuable than Acres a first rounder and a bunch of junk picks. We went really well with the draft hand we had to get those 5 players in and Ronnie Byrnes who is still a regular senior player.

 

[HeavenlySources]

He won't get a game either. I wouldn't play him over Higgins, Butler or Collard, and even though they'll play midfield minutes this year I'd still prefer Garcia Pou and Henry playing the small forward/HF roles when they rotate

He will get a game, severely under rating this kid. Our head recruiter liked him enough to drop a top 20 pick on. As a DFA he is a great pick up, Butler isn't going to be around forever. could say the same about a young rookie listed steven milne, unproven, manlet bla bla bla

 

[Joffaboy]

5 min before trade deadline ends

SOS: Well, David, I think we did pretty well landing Pick 9 in addition to pick 7 and 8.
Mission: I agree, SOS. Damn good trade period for the Saints.
SOS:....wait...weren't we meant to talk to Dogs about Macrae and Port about Soldo.
Mission:....

And the reply

 

[The Punter]

We do need a successor/alternative to Butler as a pressure forward. Perhaps it is Collard but hopefully Collard is a bit better than Butler (more strings to his bow).

 

[Joffaboy]

He will get a game, severely under rating this kid. Our head recruiter liked him enough to drop a top 20 pick on. As a DFA he is a great pick up, Butler isn't going to be around forever. could say the same about a young rookie listed steven milne, unproven, manlet bla bla bla

List clogger

 

[SainterinSydney]

Sure.....

Remember this draft is a super draft. Pick 27 in this draft is like pick 1 and 2 combined in last year's draft.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

7&8 to Richmond for pick 1 with a second rounder coming back.

 

[Joffaboy]

So in essence as we stand today

Barrass stays
Baker stays
Macrae stays
Soldo stays

And Barret is such a fanboi simp to whoever is going ok in the League. This year Hawthorn are grand masters and are two steps ahead of everyone else because they made a draft swap pick